This. Even removing the Missoula thing, it's just not a good, well-written book.
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Krakauer getting defensive?
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This. Even removing the Missoula thing, it's just not a good, well-written book.
grizhunter said:
Top 10 non-fiction (barely) and dropping like the bobcat's record in November.
It's like 80th on the Amazon most-purchased list. Not exactly a top performer.
i do love the griz
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AZGrizFan said:
Who am I to stop such a noble effort?
I'm sure UMGriz75 has -some- thought on this subject.
mtgrizrule
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i do love the griz said:
Can we vote to shut it down when it hits 20 pages? I vote yes. :thumb:
statler & waldorf
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NYT non-fiction #15 as of today.
The only reason it has done so well is that the U is pictured on the front and Missoula is the title.
cclarkblues said:
That is one DAMN fine photo.
I do like this description from the book's publisher:
Pretty much spot ON!
Pretty much spot ON!
No longer even in Amazon's Top 100.
What was it Johnny Carson used to say after a failed joke? "Whoooaaaa, BOMBO!!!!
What was it Johnny Carson used to say after a failed joke? "Whoooaaaa, BOMBO!!!!
Here. This should do it. From VICE Sports, a very small portion of a lengthy article. I guess everyone saw what unfolded at the end a little differently. Happy 20 and you're welcome!
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/sexual-assault-and-jon-krakauers-missoula-in-missoula
At the end, the audience gave Krakauer a second standing ovation. There wasn't to be a public Q&A, and instead the organizers intended to point the audience to the representatives present for local sexual assault resources, and to thank the special guests in the audience, some of the women who had shared their stories with Krakauer. Before the applause died down, a man came up to the stage and grabbed the microphone that had been in front of Abramson.
"Thomas Dove, D-O-V-E," he said, holding up a stack of papers. They were most likely the 11-page letter that the five-year Missoula resident and retired attorney sent to Doubleday and local news outlets before publication. The letter used quotations from cranky one-star Amazon.com reviews and comparisons of Missoula to Rolling Stone's UVA story to attack Krakauer's accuracy and claim that publication of the book would "be injurious to the University, the town, and the state in which it is set."
Dove, in the way men do at such events, said he had a question, after which he proceeded to talk for a really long time about his own qualifications as audience members heckled him. Krakauer, losing patience, walked over, said "Let me just take that away and just ask me face to face and I'll tell you." He took the mic from Dove and came down from the stage to stand in front of the taller, angrier man.
At this point, his Montana attorney Mike Meloy—he's the father of Decemberists bandleader Colin and author Maile—stood up between the two. Krakauer, tiring of waiting for an actual question, walked away and Dove continued into a tirade, yelling "He writes for money!" The crowd began to boo, angry that Dove was breaking the no Q&A rule; a hotel employee used the PA to make an announcement that they could please move to the exits, bringing an end to the evening.
Dove's actions were a surprise to the audience, but he had warned Theroux and Abramson before the event that he intended to ask Krakauer questions. "We knew there was a possibility, the hotel, everybody was alerted. But you know you can't get defensive, that's not what the night was about either," said Theroux. "And you just hope you can react and control anything before it does get out of hand. And quite frankly, it was one person."
Theroux came to the mic to announce that everyone was welcome to speak with the First Step and SARC representatives in the back. By then, everyone was already out of their seats and heading for the exits, one man's declamations having seized the evening's focus. It was over.
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/sexual-assault-and-jon-krakauers-missoula-in-missoula
At the end, the audience gave Krakauer a second standing ovation. There wasn't to be a public Q&A, and instead the organizers intended to point the audience to the representatives present for local sexual assault resources, and to thank the special guests in the audience, some of the women who had shared their stories with Krakauer. Before the applause died down, a man came up to the stage and grabbed the microphone that had been in front of Abramson.
"Thomas Dove, D-O-V-E," he said, holding up a stack of papers. They were most likely the 11-page letter that the five-year Missoula resident and retired attorney sent to Doubleday and local news outlets before publication. The letter used quotations from cranky one-star Amazon.com reviews and comparisons of Missoula to Rolling Stone's UVA story to attack Krakauer's accuracy and claim that publication of the book would "be injurious to the University, the town, and the state in which it is set."
Dove, in the way men do at such events, said he had a question, after which he proceeded to talk for a really long time about his own qualifications as audience members heckled him. Krakauer, losing patience, walked over, said "Let me just take that away and just ask me face to face and I'll tell you." He took the mic from Dove and came down from the stage to stand in front of the taller, angrier man.
At this point, his Montana attorney Mike Meloy—he's the father of Decemberists bandleader Colin and author Maile—stood up between the two. Krakauer, tiring of waiting for an actual question, walked away and Dove continued into a tirade, yelling "He writes for money!" The crowd began to boo, angry that Dove was breaking the no Q&A rule; a hotel employee used the PA to make an announcement that they could please move to the exits, bringing an end to the evening.
Dove's actions were a surprise to the audience, but he had warned Theroux and Abramson before the event that he intended to ask Krakauer questions. "We knew there was a possibility, the hotel, everybody was alerted. But you know you can't get defensive, that's not what the night was about either," said Theroux. "And you just hope you can react and control anything before it does get out of hand. And quite frankly, it was one person."
Theroux came to the mic to announce that everyone was welcome to speak with the First Step and SARC representatives in the back. By then, everyone was already out of their seats and heading for the exits, one man's declamations having seized the evening's focus. It was over.
Ah crap. Here I try to help out and I'm a page short and a dollar late.....or something like that.
mtgrizrule
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signedbewildered said:
So are you in favor of putting it to rest at page 20? I am guessing that will post #480 on this thread.
No way this hits 21 pages.
mtgrizrule
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MrTitleist said:
I hope you are right 100%
mtgrizrule said:
I vote yay for 20. Likely my fault, it had just about went away and I couldn't resist posting the latest ratings.
statler & waldorf
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Did I miss it, or is 'Dateline' still waiting to air its piece on this story? Civil suits haven't even started, yet.
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