Kevin Henderson DUI

[spokaneman]

Anyone want to know what kind of policy Tinkle has on drinking if you want to be on the team? What about some of the other elite teams like Duke for instance. Would seem to me they wouldn't allow it and that would help in their producing stellar teams.

Only thing is, we arent a normal team anymore because of all the other problems in Missoula and UM? The rules probably got alot more strict this year

Apparently not!! I see where Tinkle is suiting him up this week... So much for UM Athletics cleaning up their act!! I guess the "win streak" is just too darned important!!

Lets hope this lack of setting an example does not lead to the next drinking fatality on the campus!

Hyperbolize much? :roll:

Of course you are right... how in the world could condoning underage drunk driving possibly hurt anyone!! Silly me!!

 

[EverettGriz]

Only thing is, we arent a normal team anymore because of all the other problems in Missoula and UM? The rules probably got alot more strict this year

Apparently not!! I see where Tinkle is suiting him up this week... So much for UM Athletics cleaning up their act!! I guess the "win streak" is just too darned important!!

Lets hope this lack of setting an example does not lead to the next drinking fatality on the campus!

Hyperbolize much? :roll:

Of course you are right... how in the world could condoning underage drunk driving possibly hurt anyone!! Silly me!!

Seems to me that there is a marked difference between condoning the act -- which I have not seen from anyone, and certainly not from UM Administration or the coaching staff -- and raising the level of it to the point of requiring the player's removal from the program, as you seem to suggest.



But my hunch is that you already know that, and you're just trying to troll.

 

[spokaneman]

Apparently not!! I see where Tinkle is suiting him up this week... So much for UM Athletics cleaning up their act!! I guess the "win streak" is just too darned important!!

Lets hope this lack of setting an example does not lead to the next drinking fatality on the campus!

Hyperbolize much? :roll:

Of course you are right... how in the world could condoning underage drunk driving possibly hurt anyone!! Silly me!!

Seems to me that there is a marked difference between condoning the act -- which I have not seen from anyone, and certainly not from UM Administration or the coaching staff -- and raising the level of it to the point of requiring the player's removal from the program, as you seem to suggest.


But my hunch is that you already know that, and you're just trying to troll.

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

 

[Potomac Griz]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games. To a player busting his ass for more playing time being suspended like this for a couple games would be pretty damn awful.

Shit, in my opinion the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If you are old enough to go fight in a war for your country you should be considered old enough to have a beer.

So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games. To a player busting his ass for more playing time being suspended like this for a couple games would be pretty damn awful.

Shit, in my opinion the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If you are old enough to go fight in a war for your country you should be considered old enough to have a beer.

So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

This + If we are going to ask our youth to serve in harms way and put it on the line the least we can do is let them enjoy cold beer!

 

[JAKEweezy93]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games. To a player busting his ass for more playing time being suspended like this for a couple games would be pretty damn awful.

Shit, in my opinion the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If you are old enough to go fight in a war for your country you should be considered old enough to have a beer.

So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

This + If we are going to ask our youth to serve in harms way and put it on the line the least we can do is let them enjoy cold beer!

but it seems like most of our countrys soljas are already pretty fucked up by the way they got there asses kicked in the midleeast and made the hole usa embarrassed and looking like a bunch of pussies. thanks for nuthin troops! if anything they should make them sober up :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[spokaneman]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games.
So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

Yes - I had several glasses of wine when I was under the age of 21.. but the drinking age was 18 and I was not on scholarship with UM!! He blew far greater than a .02 but YOU and I do not know what that magic number is YET....

You are confident that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist "sent the right message"... sent the "right message" to who?? Did Henderson "get the message" when Poole got busted? Did he "get the message" when Donaldson was jailed?. Did he "get the message" when TJ and Kemp found trouble?? The simple answer is NO because if he had, and IF the message was CLEAR back then, then he would not be out drinking and driving on campus as a minor during the season.... SO APPARENTLY THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING HEARD!!!

What would I have done?... after ALL of the trouble that UM Athletics has seen in the past 3 years it is VERY CLEAR that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist is not deterring anyone. Double the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist and see if that helps....

 

[mtgrizrule]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games. To a player busting his ass for more playing time being suspended like this for a couple games would be pretty damn awful.

Shit, in my opinion the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If you are old enough to go fight in a war for your country you should be considered old enough to have a beer.

So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

This + If we are going to ask our youth to serve in harms way and put it on the line the least we can do is let them enjoy cold beer!

Amen, old enough to serve your nation, old enough to drink.

How many of you actually watch player interaction and attitudes during games? I ask because Wayne is a very much a coach that decides things a lot on attitude, on the court, on the bench, and an away from the game. I always watch for bench/player interaction at any game I attend in person, or watch on online/tv. Henderson is always encouraging his teammates, and giving positive encouragement. He has from day 1 of his arrival.

His attitude and interaction during his suspension was no less than normal, and he was not sulking. That says a lot to me , and even more to his coaches and teammates. It looks to me owned up to his mistake, and life now goes on.

Welcome back Mr Henderson.

 

[spokaneman]

It looks to me owned up to his mistake, and life now goes on.

Welcome back Mr Henderson.

All good solid points however, the question is, did his mistake and resultant discipline deter others from making the same mistake in the future??.... Clearly the answer is NO.... again, I just hope the next UM Athlete who gets a "baby DUI" while driving on campus does not have Vehicular Homicide added to it!!

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

It looks to me owned up to his mistake, and life now goes on.

Welcome back Mr Henderson.

All good solid points however, the question is, did his mistake and resultant discipline deter others from making the same mistake in the future??.... Clearly the answer is NO.... again, I just hope the next UM Athlete who gets a "baby DUI" while driving on campus does not have Vehicular Homicide added to it!!

a better question to ask did his mistake and resultant discipline deter HIM from making the same mistake in the future? I would argue that Tinks has Henderson's complete and undivided attention on this matter.

 

[SeaGrizluvr]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games.
So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

Yes - I had several glasses of wine when I was under the age of 21.. but the drinking age was 18 and I was not on scholarship with UM!! He blew far greater than a .02 but YOU and I do not know what that magic number is YET....

You are confident that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist "sent the right message"... sent the "right message" to who?? Did Henderson "get the message" when Poole got busted? Did he "get the message" when Donaldson was jailed?. Did he "get the message" when TJ and Kemp found trouble?? The simple answer is NO because if he had, and IF the message was CLEAR back then, then he would not be out drinking and driving on campus as a minor during the season.... SO APPARENTLY THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING HEARD!!!

What would I have done?... after ALL of the trouble that UM Athletics has seen in the past 3 years it is VERY CLEAR that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist is not deterring anyone. Double the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist and see if that helps....

Geez numbnuts, I guess if you had read my post you would have seen HE DID get double the minimum with a 2 game suspension(minimum being 1 day in case math is difficult for you). So I guess you're done here since he ALREADY got what you wanted.

 

[EverettGriz]

It looks to me owned up to his mistake, and life now goes on.

Welcome back Mr Henderson.

All good solid points however, the question is, did his mistake and resultant discipline deter others from making the same mistake in the future??.... Clearly the answer is NO.... again, I just hope the next UM Athlete who gets a "baby DUI" while driving on campus does not have Vehicular Homicide added to it!!

So, would you suggest taking away all funding (scholarships, financial aid, work study, etc) from every kid from every college campus if they are caught drinking and driving, particuarly if their BAC level is below the legal limit for "adults"? Because that would be analagous to what you seem to desire in this instance.

And if you do desire that, you're naive. I'm not saying wrong. Just purely and simply naive.

As Rule said: Welcome back Mr. Henderson!!

 

[info]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games.
So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

Yes - I had several glasses of wine when I was under the age of 21.. but the drinking age was 18 and I was not on scholarship with UM!! He blew far greater than a .02 but YOU and I do not know what that magic number is YET....

You are confident that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist "sent the right message"... sent the "right message" to who?? Did Henderson "get the message" when Poole got busted? Did he "get the message" when Donaldson was jailed?. Did he "get the message" when TJ and Kemp found trouble?? The simple answer is NO because if he had, and IF the message was CLEAR back then, then he would not be out drinking and driving on campus as a minor during the season.... SO APPARENTLY THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING HEARD!!!

What would I have done?... after ALL of the trouble that UM Athletics has seen in the past 3 years it is VERY CLEAR that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist is not deterring anyone. Double the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist and see if that helps....

Geez numbnuts, I guess if you had read my post you would have seen HE DID get double the minimum with a 2 game suspension(minimum being 1 day in case math is difficult for you). So I guess you're done here since he ALREADY got what you wanted.

He's an Eastern fan so math is not his strong suit...

 

[EverettGriz]

Ahh, that would explain it....


And that's great information to know. I've always wondered who the one ewoo fan in Spokane was....

 

[spokaneman]

Gezzz - Hyperbolize much? :roll:
Please show me where I EVER suggested that he be removed from the team...
Listen
He is a MINOR
HE is a MINOR who was DRINKING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on CAMPUS
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING on Campus during the SEASON
He is a MINOR who was DRINKING and DRIVING during the SEASON on CAMPUS at a time when UM can ill-afford more bad publicity....

Certainly Tinkle COULD have used this unfortunate instance as an opportunity to show that UM Athletics are indeed at least trying to turn the ship around by imposing more than the obligatory minimum slap on the wrist, but he chose not to.... His actions speak volumes, unfortunately those actions appear to mimic years past that got UM Athletics in the mess they are in now.....

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games.
So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

Yes - I had several glasses of wine when I was under the age of 21.. but the drinking age was 18 and I was not on scholarship with UM!! He blew far greater than a .02 but YOU and I do not know what that magic number is YET....

You are confident that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist "sent the right message"... sent the "right message" to who?? Did Henderson "get the message" when Poole got busted? Did he "get the message" when Donaldson was jailed?. Did he "get the message" when TJ and Kemp found trouble?? The simple answer is NO because if he had, and IF the message was CLEAR back then, then he would not be out drinking and driving on campus as a minor during the season.... SO APPARENTLY THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING HEARD!!!

What would I have done?... after ALL of the trouble that UM Athletics has seen in the past 3 years it is VERY CLEAR that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist is not deterring anyone. Double the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist and see if that helps....

Geez numbnuts, I guess if you had read my post you would have seen HE DID get double the minimum with a 2 game suspension(minimum being 1 day in case math is difficult for you). So I guess you're done here since he ALREADY got what you wanted.

WOW - does it hurt to be so friggen stupid?? Drinking when a MINOR is one Cat II offense... DUI is a second thus the 2 game suspension... or is that math too hard for you??? numbnuts indeed... try to keep up s@!T for brains.....

Again - apparently nobody is getting the so called "message"... try increasing the penalty to see if the "message" can become clearer....

 

[spokaneman]

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games.
So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

Yes - I had several glasses of wine when I was under the age of 21.. but the drinking age was 18 and I was not on scholarship with UM!! He blew far greater than a .02 but YOU and I do not know what that magic number is YET....

You are confident that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist "sent the right message"... sent the "right message" to who?? Did Henderson "get the message" when Poole got busted? Did he "get the message" when Donaldson was jailed?. Did he "get the message" when TJ and Kemp found trouble?? The simple answer is NO because if he had, and IF the message was CLEAR back then, then he would not be out drinking and driving on campus as a minor during the season.... SO APPARENTLY THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING HEARD!!!

What would I have done?... after ALL of the trouble that UM Athletics has seen in the past 3 years it is VERY CLEAR that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist is not deterring anyone. Double the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist and see if that helps....

Geez numbnuts, I guess if you had read my post you would have seen HE DID get double the minimum with a 2 game suspension(minimum being 1 day in case math is difficult for you). So I guess you're done here since he ALREADY got what you wanted.

He's an Eastern fan so math is not his strong suit...

Apparently BASIC comprehension is not yours.... he committed TWO CAT 2 offenses thus the obligatory slap on the wrist...

Again - does being so friggen stupid hurt?.. does it give you headaches?...

 

[SeaGrizluvr]

You never had a glass of wine under the age of 21 or a single beer? As was said earlier, to blow a .02 it could have been something as simple as 1 glass of wine at dinner, or a single beer with friends. No need to turn this into something bigger than it was. He was suspended 2 games for this, and I'm confident that it sent the right message suspending him for 2 games.
So I'm curious, you keep stating that Tinkle should have done more... yet you offer up no opinion on what he should have done. What do you think he should have done? Be specific here, none of this "he should have done more" bullshit.

Yes - I had several glasses of wine when I was under the age of 21.. but the drinking age was 18 and I was not on scholarship with UM!! He blew far greater than a .02 but YOU and I do not know what that magic number is YET....

You are confident that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist "sent the right message"... sent the "right message" to who?? Did Henderson "get the message" when Poole got busted? Did he "get the message" when Donaldson was jailed?. Did he "get the message" when TJ and Kemp found trouble?? The simple answer is NO because if he had, and IF the message was CLEAR back then, then he would not be out drinking and driving on campus as a minor during the season.... SO APPARENTLY THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING HEARD!!!

What would I have done?... after ALL of the trouble that UM Athletics has seen in the past 3 years it is VERY CLEAR that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist is not deterring anyone. Double the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist and see if that helps....

Geez numbnuts, I guess if you had read my post you would have seen HE DID get double the minimum with a 2 game suspension(minimum being 1 day in case math is difficult for you). So I guess you're done here since he ALREADY got what you wanted.

WOW - does it hurt to be so friggen stupid?? Drinking when a MINOR is one Cat II offense... DUI is a second thus the 2 game suspension... or is that math too hard for you??? numbnuts indeed... try to keep up s@!T for brains.....

Again - apparently nobody is getting the so called "message"... try increasing the penalty to see if the "message" can become clearer....

"First Offense Dismissal from team Minimum of one contest
suspension"

II. Penalty Schedule
Table 1. Penalty Schedule: Mandatory Minimum Sanctions
Category I Category II Category III
First Offense Dismissal from team Minimum of one contest
suspension
One or more of the following
depending on nature of offense:
‐Mandatory alcohol/drug counseling
‐Community Service
‐Letter of apology
‐Behavior contract
‐Restitution
‐Parent/guardian notification
‐Suspension from practice activities
‐Suspension from team activities
Second Offense Minimum suspension of
30% of scheduled contests
Minimum of one contest suspension
Third Offense Dismissal from team Minimum suspension of 25% of
scheduled contests
Fourth Offense Dismissal from team
Sanctions for Category I, II, and III violations shall follow the schedule above, with the following
guidelines.
 Category II and III violations are each considered within a rolling two‐year period in
order to determine which offense (first, second, etc.) has been committed. Category
I violations are not subject to any rolling period of time and are always acted upon.
 For multi‐sport student‐athletes, sanctions will be imposed during the season in
which the offense occurs or in the immediately next sport season if the offense
occurs out of season.
 The withholding of information in an attempt to evade punishment under this
penalty schedule is subject to further penalties as appropriate.
 In cases where there is ambiguity about the Category status of a penalty or about
whether the Penalty Schedule should be invoked at all, the ACT will use all available
information to determine whether the violation is Category II or III.
 Nothing in this code shall be construed to prevent the University and the
Department of Athletics from imposing disciplinary proceedings pending final
adjudication in a court of law.

 

[spokaneman]

It looks to me owned up to his mistake, and life now goes on.

Welcome back Mr Henderson.

All good solid points however, the question is, did his mistake and resultant discipline deter others from making the same mistake in the future??.... Clearly the answer is NO.... again, I just hope the next UM Athlete who gets a "baby DUI" while driving on campus does not have Vehicular Homicide added to it!!

So, would you suggest taking away all funding (scholarships, financial aid, work study, etc) from every kid from every college campus if they are caught drinking and driving, particuarly if their BAC level is below the legal limit for "adults"? Because that would be analagous to what you seem to desire in this instance.

And if you do desire that, you're naive. I'm not saying wrong. Just purely and simply naive.

As Rule said: Welcome back Mr. Henderson!!

No I would not argue to take the action that you suggest above, however not every kid has the privilege of being on scholarship at UM nor has every kid signed the UM Athlete Code of Conduct that Henderson did making him very well aware of what is expected of him...

 

[Ashamed]

Anyone want to know what kind of policy Tinkle has on drinking if you want to be on the team? What about some of the other elite teams like Duke for instance. Would seem to me they wouldn't allow it and that would help in their producing stellar teams.

Only thing is, we arent a normal team anymore because of all the other problems in Missoula and UM? The rules probably got alot more strict this year

Apparently not!! I see where Tinkle is suiting him up this week... So much for UM Athletics cleaning up their act!! I guess the "win streak" is just too darned important!!

Lets hope this lack of setting an example does not lead to the next drinking fatality on the campus!

Jesus :roll: What should his punishment have been then? Expulsion? Public tar and feathering? 10 years in jail? Siberian work camp?

Again...let us know what you think his punishment should have been?

 

[spokaneman]

Yes - I had several glasses of wine when I was under the age of 21.. but the drinking age was 18 and I was not on scholarship with UM!! He blew far greater than a .02 but YOU and I do not know what that magic number is YET....

You are confident that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist "sent the right message"... sent the "right message" to who?? Did Henderson "get the message" when Poole got busted? Did he "get the message" when Donaldson was jailed?. Did he "get the message" when TJ and Kemp found trouble?? The simple answer is NO because if he had, and IF the message was CLEAR back then, then he would not be out drinking and driving on campus as a minor during the season.... SO APPARENTLY THE MESSAGE IS NOT BEING HEARD!!!

What would I have done?... after ALL of the trouble that UM Athletics has seen in the past 3 years it is VERY CLEAR that the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist is not deterring anyone. Double the minimum obligatory slap on the wrist and see if that helps....

Geez numbnuts, I guess if you had read my post you would have seen HE DID get double the minimum with a 2 game suspension(minimum being 1 day in case math is difficult for you). So I guess you're done here since he ALREADY got what you wanted.

WOW - does it hurt to be so friggen stupid?? Drinking when a MINOR is one Cat II offense... DUI is a second thus the 2 game suspension... or is that math too hard for you??? numbnuts indeed... try to keep up s@!T for brains.....

Again - apparently nobody is getting the so called "message"... try increasing the penalty to see if the "message" can become clearer....

"First Offense Dismissal from team Minimum of one contest
suspension"

II. Penalty Schedule
Table 1. Penalty Schedule: Mandatory Minimum Sanctions
Category I Category II Category III
First Offense Dismissal from team Minimum of one contest
suspension
One or more of the following
depending on nature of offense:
‐Mandatory alcohol/drug counseling
‐Community Service
‐Letter of apology
‐Behavior contract
‐Restitution
‐Parent/guardian notification
‐Suspension from practice activities
‐Suspension from team activities
Second Offense Minimum suspension of
30% of scheduled contests
Minimum of one contest suspension
Third Offense Dismissal from team Minimum suspension of 25% of
scheduled contests
Fourth Offense Dismissal from team
Sanctions for Category I, II, and III violations shall follow the schedule above, with the following
guidelines.
 Category II and III violations are each considered within a rolling two‐year period in
order to determine which offense (first, second, etc.) has been committed. Category
I violations are not subject to any rolling period of time and are always acted upon.
 For multi‐sport student‐athletes, sanctions will be imposed during the season in
which the offense occurs or in the immediately next sport season if the offense
occurs out of season.
 The withholding of information in an attempt to evade punishment under this
penalty schedule is subject to further penalties as appropriate.
 In cases where there is ambiguity about the Category status of a penalty or about
whether the Penalty Schedule should be invoked at all, the ACT will use all available
information to determine whether the violation is Category II or III.
 Nothing in this code shall be construed to prevent the University and the
Department of Athletics from imposing disciplinary proceedings pending final
adjudication in a court of law.

WOW - they taught you how to cut and paste at your school??.. good for you Junior!! Now count with me...(take off your shoes if you have to)

Under Age Drinking = 1 st offense
DUI = 2nd offense...
HE should have been seated for 30% of the scheduled contests...

That's OK spike... I had trouble counting to 2 as well... but by then I already had my 2nd birthday....