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[behappp]

pretty easy to understand!..look at the coach a true alpha male leader and who wants to play physical ball and not play a gimmick offensive scheme football..sounds like a winning combination to me..

That's exactly what EVERYONE in the country said the Griz WERE AND WEREN'T when they won the chip in 95. Most talking heads thought Read's offense was a flash in the pan, and nobody in their right mind would have ever considered the 95 offense anything resembling physical. INCLUDING the players who played in that offense. In fact, there are ALOT of modern Griz fans who absolutely can't name the Griz' starting RB on that team, or its leading rusher that season. And yet, that team won the school's first national championship.

Did Don Read have any TE's? Did he try to run 90 plays/game? Did he believe that the odds are in your favor going for it on 4th down?

I know he was a very creative offensive mind. I remember watching the offense having receivers seemingly running every which way from multiple formations and somehow one of them would be wide open and DD would find that receiver.

I would love it if Stitt was that type of creative genius, but I have my doubts, so far. Hopefully, next year we will know if we are moving in the right direction or not.

 

[George Ferguson]

I never once called Stitt an offensive genius. Don read was. He proved he was. I merely said the Griz won a national title without the slightest bit of smashmouth football. Not even anything in ballpark of smashmouth football. They also won without an in your face, alpha male, yelling and screaming head coach too, cause that was NEVER EVER Don Read's style. Point is, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and the 95 Griz team didn't resemble anything grizghost is saying is required to win a championship.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

I disagree, Stitt will never be a good head coach because of his height. Players won't respect a guy who has 8th graders towering over him.

That's actually kinda funny. Could all this drama really be because of "small man's syndrome"? Jeez I hope not.....

 

[griz5700]

If Bob Stitt had inherited THAT team he might have won the NC too....those fellas don't look like they're in the same league as ours....

I distinctly recall thinking during our last championship game against Villanova that we were somewhat physically outmatched. We hung in there thanks to the Marc Mariana Show and the usual Montana grit but still lost.

Those who think Montana can go nose-to-nose in power football every year against schools in more densely populated recruiting areas are sniffing too much of the wacky tobacky. Joe Glenn, whose team won our last national title ran a pass-based offense (and he also mentored a guy named Bob Stitt while they were at Northern Colorado).

BULLSHIT

 

[kemajic]

I never once called Stitt an offensive genius. Don read was. He proved he was. I merely said the Griz won a national title without the slightest bit of smashmouth football. Not even anything in ballpark of smashmouth football. They also won without an in your face, alpha male, yelling and screaming head coach too, cause that was NEVER EVER Don Read's style. Point is, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and the 95 Griz team didn't resemble anything grizghost is saying is required to win a championship.

It is clear you never watched the '95 championship game. I did from the second row in Huntington. It was not trick passing that won that game; it was a smash-mouth defensive effort. Goal line stand, safety against Pennington (the difference in the game), you name it. DD was sacked 10 times in the game.

 

[kemajic]

Joe Glenn, whose team won our last national title ran a pass-based offense (and he also mentored a guy named Bob Stitt while they were at Northern Colorado).

Couldn't be farther from the truth. That offense revolved around outstanding RB Yohance Humphrey. Edwards was not a great passer. But more importantly, it was a great defense that took them all the way. Spun a shutout in the NC game until the irrelevant last play.

I must admit I didn't watch those games with Glenn as coach. But I've read that Glenn ran a west coast passing offense, which is the base for Stitt's. Is that true? (And Stitt has always claimed that his offense is RB-friendly, which I think we've seen signs of when things are clicking.)

But you read....

 

[bearister]

pretty easy to understand!..look at the coach a true alpha male leader and who wants to play physical ball and not play a gimmick offensive scheme football..sounds like a winning combination to me..

That's exactly what EVERYONE in the country said the Griz WERE AND WEREN'T when they won the chip in 95. Most talking heads thought Read's offense was a flash in the pan, and nobody in their right mind would have ever considered the 95 offense anything resembling physical. INCLUDING the players who played in that offense. In fact, there are ALOT of modern Griz fans who absolutely can't name the Griz' starting RB on that team, or its leading rusher that season. And yet, that team won the school's first national championship.

Kelly Stensrud

 

[Griz Man]

But you read....

Reading's good for you. Nourishes the mind! :thumb: Also, professionals like lawyers, judges, and historians constantly make assessments about important events that they didn't witness first-hand. They rely instead on written documents. In any case, I read that Glenn's offense was west coast, which would put it in the same family as Stitt's. I'd be interested in your honest assessment of that assertion, if you've got the time.

 

[George Ferguson]

I never once called Stitt an offensive genius. Don read was. He proved he was. I merely said the Griz won a national title without the slightest bit of smashmouth football. Not even anything in ballpark of smashmouth football. They also won without an in your face, alpha male, yelling and screaming head coach too, cause that was NEVER EVER Don Read's style. Point is, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and the 95 Griz team didn't resemble anything grizghost is saying is required to win a championship.

It is clear you never watched the '95 championship game. I did from the second row in Huntington. It was not trick passing that won that game; it was a smash-mouth defensive effort. Goal line stand, safety against Pennington (the difference in the game), you name it. DD was sacked 10 times in the game.

Grizghost was specifically talking about offense. I watched every play of every game in 95, including the chipper. I wasn't in Huntington that year, just the next. The Griz' defense played amazing in the 95 chipper. Never once can you find a statement where I said the 95 Griz defense wasn't physical or smashmouth. I was replying to the person who stated it requires a physcial, smashmouth offense an an alpha male head coach to win championships. I stand by my contention that the 95 Griz had neither of those things and still won a championship. Kem, you obviously have a problem with me, even though I literally NEVER even respond to your posts. Maybe you should try that route sometime.

 

[PlayerRep]

But you read....

Reading's good for you. Nourishes the mind! :thumb: Also, professionals like lawyers, judges, and historians constantly make assessments about important events that they didn't witness first-hand. They rely instead on written documents. In any case, I read that Glenn's offense was west coast, which would put it in the same family as Stitt's. I'd be interested in your honest assessment of that assertion, if you've got the time.

Where did you read that Glenn ran a West Coast office? Can't imagine that anyone who understood football would ever say that?

 

[bgbigdog]

Not sure Cowboy Joe had a tightly defined style.
https://youtu.be/VGJUc73t5aY



YouTube can be your friend, if you'll let it. Unless you're trying to embed a vid from your iPhone. In that case, f$&k you - YouTube.

 

[PlayerRep]

Not sure Cowboy Joe had a tightly defined style.
https://youtu.be/VGJUc73t5aY



YouTube can be your friend, if you'll let it. Unless you're trying to embed a vid from your iPhone. In that case, f$&k you - YouTube.

I'm in this video. Standing right on the sideline. Followed the line of scrimmage (usually several yards in front of it) down the sideline for the entire drive, except where the team was between the 35's. Was a thrilling time and great view. Sometimes Molden ended up near my feet as he caught short outs and was tackled of bounds. Lots of plays came to the Griz sidelines.

 

[Grizzly Oredigger]

I don't remember if Don Read went for it a lot on fourth down, but for some reason i do remember he had the quarterback punt on 3rd down in weird circumstances. As a kid I thought that was so weird...

 

[grizcountry420]

Just relax guys.. Everything will be great once Stitt's recruits start playing and then we will win multiple championships...

 

[AZGrizFan]

Just relax guys.. Everything will be great once Stitt's recruits start playing and then we will win multiple championships...

True story. They can't be worse than Delaney recruits.

 

[kemajic]

I never once called Stitt an offensive genius. Don read was. He proved he was. I merely said the Griz won a national title without the slightest bit of smashmouth football. Not even anything in ballpark of smashmouth football. They also won without an in your face, alpha male, yelling and screaming head coach too, cause that was NEVER EVER Don Read's style. Point is, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and the 95 Griz team didn't resemble anything grizghost is saying is required to win a championship.

It is clear you never watched the '95 championship game. I did from the second row in Huntington. It was not trick passing that won that game; it was a smash-mouth defensive effort. Goal line stand, safety against Pennington (the difference in the game), you name it. DD was sacked 10 times in the game.

Grizghost was specifically talking about offense. I watched every play of every game in 95, including the chipper. I wasn't in Huntington that year, just the next. The Griz' defense played amazing in the 95 chipper. Never once can you find a statement where I said the 95 Griz defense wasn't physical or smashmouth. I was replying to the person who stated it requires a physcial, smashmouth offense an an alpha male head coach to win championships. I stand by my contention that the 95 Griz had neither of those things and still won a championship. Kem, you obviously have a problem with me, even though I literally NEVER even respond to your posts. Maybe you should try that route sometime.

The problem I have with you is not only are you frequently dead wrong, but you have a habit of posting something wrong and then denying it. Example: "I merely said the Griz won a national title without the slightest bit of smashmouth football. Not even anything in ballpark of smashmouth football." Expect to get challenged when you keep pulling this $hit.

 

[b_f_c_99]

I had the honor of being at many of Don Reads QB club breakfasts that the coaching staff did for the boosters. One of the most memorable things I remember him saying was "If you can get a defense to blitz my offense I'll beat them everytime, but if a defense can put pressure on your backfield with just the 4 down lineman your in for a long day."

So in other words, get a D line that can get in the backfield.

 

[uofmman1122]

I had the honor of being at many of Don Reads QB club breakfasts that the coaching staff did for the boosters. One of the most memorable things I remember him saying was "If you can get a defense to blitz my offense I'll beat them everytime, but if a defense can put pressure on your backfield with just the 4 down lineman your in for a long day."

So in other words, get a D line that can get in the backfield.

I wasn't a huge fan of Craig Paulson's defenses under Hauck, but they were really good at getting pressure with just 4 guys.

 

[NativeGriz]

The only title game we were physically overmatched in was thr 04 game against JMU. They just ran over us

I believe our 1 guy (Ochs) would have beat JMU if the field had held up, though I wish Hauck would have given up on the run sooner and let it become an Ochs show. It didn't help us that JMU was wearing illegal longer cleats that gave much better traction in the sand like field conditions especially in the second half. A couple of weird first half calls also, but then I felt the 2nd half calls went our way. You are correct, they were a physically stronger team, but I do not believe they were a better team.

 

[daGrizJ]

Not sure Cowboy Joe had a tightly defined style.
https://youtu.be/VGJUc73t5aY



YouTube can be your friend, if you'll let it. Unless you're trying to embed a vid from your iPhone. In that case, f$&k you - YouTube.

I'm in this video. Standing right on the sideline. Followed the line of scrimmage (usually several yards in front of it) down the sideline for the entire drive, except where the team was between the 35's. Was a thrilling time and great view. Sometimes Molden ended up near my feet as he caught short outs and was tackled of bounds. Lots of plays came to the Griz sidelines.

Nice to watch Humphery run again. I forgot how talented he was. I was amazed this Griz team was able to win a NC. I just didn't think they were that good overall, especially early in the season. Everything just seemed to gel.

I'm also amazed how you can try to make this video about you.