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JJ Trial
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GrizPony said:
In addition, his wife happens to be EXTREMELY loaded, so its not as if he took this case pro bono out of the goodness of his heart or due to an overwhelming interest in justice. He simply wanted to get his out there in Missoula's overstuffed legal community. Can't blame the guy, but he is by no means some valiant savior coming to the rescue.
This has been a political witch hunt from the beginning, so lets not get weepy for the accuser. Blame the prosecution team, who should have thrown this one out long ago, except the political climate said proceed. This is a latter day show trial, no more no less. The responsibility can be laid right at the feet of Royce Engstrom and Pat Williams. I can hardly wait for the REAL TRIAL, where these two and all involved are sued into oblivion for their complicity and stupidity. What goes around, comes around.
JSTGriz
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GrizBear said:
Funny you say that yet JJ's reputation an name have been dragged through the mud before the trial. You know that thing before you are suppose to be guilty? Like hav said he doesn't get that year back an has to wash his own name an rep. The media sure as shit won't help him.
Interesting you say that. I know Adam personally and he is a heck of a good guy. He takes good care of his clients and is a good advocate for them. Is it wrong to have intentions of running for office? Does that make him insincere?GrizPony said:
Only from what I've followed on twitter, I don't think there is enough to convict. But twitter doesn't provide voice inflection, emotion, and every detail. It sounds like they probably had a really awkward night of sex with her interpreting it as inappropriate and he thinking it just wasn't much fun and wanted nothing else to do with her after it was over. Was each person probably correct in his or her assessment? Yes. Does that equal convictable rape? Probably not. Only my opinion of course, only they actually know what took place.
This is the conclusion I'm leaning towards, as well.Pin2Win said:
I think this girl really feels like she has been raped, but I'm still confused as to whether or not she let JJ know that she didn't want to do it. The whole story still doesn't make much sense.
Still a lot of trial left, though. JJ's definitely not off the hook yet.
GoosetownGriz
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Jerry Punch go away your shit stirring has been going on for a couple days and is played out.
UM75 and others my dad always told me to never argue with an idiot because they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
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UM75 and others my dad always told me to never argue with an idiot because they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
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GrizBear said:
Are you serious? This chick is a poster child for a delusional jock-chasing scorned "girlfriend". She is a sociopath, who wants to create pain for the guy who harpooned her and then bolted. How many Griz athletes does she need to do, or do in her dreams, before some of you get it?
stubbins said:
I'm not terribly worried about credibility with the six uber fans with their nose so far up the players asses they can't see the problems and attitudes that are bringing the whole program down and resulted in the firings.(can't imagine why Paoli is trying to lay that on the accuser and her family) Whether or not he is convicted of rape it is highly unlikely that he will be acquitted. Most people get it. Attitudes toward the accuser have changed dramatically on this board (who knows where they will be by the end of the trial) hes not a choir boy (or close) I'm sorry you don't. I haven't missed being at a NC game, I'd love to be at some more (and I will) but we don't need JJ to be there.
More fascinating to me and I realize it was far from scientific his how well Williams fared in the KECI Poll. I was sure he'd not have a majority of support.
Special K said:
the whole 'scorned girlfriend' b.s. goes out the window with her immediate response to the event - saying she was raped. i imagine things would be a lot different if the person she told this to at the scene hadn't grown up in a jock-worshiping environment.
coreytrevor
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tnt said:
Uhh hello... I am a 70 year old who just got their first smart phone and can't get auto correct figured out. Maybe try a quick review before you post.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone has it figured out that this chick is a delusional psycho. Also that the administration had a definite agenda and exploited this situation to advance it. However, most (sane) people have turned the tide and it seems that the political thugs are losing steam. JJ is a good kid from a good family. This girl deserves to be tarred and feathered on the oval for what she has put the university and city through.
Take a step out of your fish bowl and look around for a few minutes. Gaining a little bit of perspective could go a long way in helping your mental state.
grizfromhel
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Another nonsensical wowser from tnt: "Whether or not he is convicted of rape it is highly unlikely that he will be acquitted".
Hey, Mr or Ms. tnt, when a person is charged with a criminal offense and the jury finds in his (or her) favor, there is a word for that: it's called "acquitted".
So your statement is illogical and makes no sense whatsoever. As usual.
Do you ever read your stuff before you post, or do you delight in making us try to suffer through it??
Hey, Mr or Ms. tnt, when a person is charged with a criminal offense and the jury finds in his (or her) favor, there is a word for that: it's called "acquitted".
So your statement is illogical and makes no sense whatsoever. As usual.
Do you ever read your stuff before you post, or do you delight in making us try to suffer through it??
UMGriz75
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Well, being literally "left at the altar" and publicly humiliated the night before by the guy, bringing the guy home the next evening, having playful sex, then immediately claiming rape, a well-known campus drama queen with an infatuation for star athletes, pretending to be withdrawn and devastated, but texting everyone in sight with smiley faces "its all good!", and being so withdrawn and depressed that she's busy calling high priced law firms to see how she can set this up to get some money out of it, and launching her own independent investigation into JJ's sexual history, while sending out 27,000 text messages because "she didn't want anybody to know," certainly paints an interesting portrait, one that did not make it into the lexicon of the Expert Witness.argh! said:
No, I doubt that "scorned girlfriend" is exactly the level of response that certainly describes one specific scenario of this case -- "scorned psychopath" is more accurate -- and one by the way that is far better supported so far by the evidence (and will be) than the "alcohol-fueled sexual predator" meme advocated without evidence by certain posters.
Yesterday's closing testimony was, once again, devastating for the Prosecution. I really don't know why they called Bink. If they were scrapping the bottom for character witnesses, that showed it.
Here's her high school sweethheart, nicest guy, obviously still pining for a relationship with her; but, she's gone off to college, and she's smitten with the athletes. He's been cast aside. But, she still uses him as her crutch. They're close and yet the jury, in their common experience, will see that its because he's still kind of hanging on. It was clear he's never gotten a new girlfriend. And it would have been sweet to hear how close they have remained, except for the part that, when she gets the chance to date the star quarterback, she drops him like a hot rock, at the last minute, lies about it to him ... and then carefully seeks him out afterward to make sure that he knows how she feels, to seek comfort, to seek refuge ... and to make sure he "see's how she is." He played his unknowing assigned role to the tee.
Here's what the jury didn't hear yesterday from this hapless young man: any expression from her, even an ounce of remorse, about lying to him, ditching him at the last minute, bouncing him out of her life at the slightest hint of a romantic encounter, in her bedroom, in her bed, with the star quarterback.
He "would trust her with his life." "She never lied to him." If I were him, I'd get a new ex-girlfriend. The sheer ruthless cynicism of how she treated, abused and manipulated that loyal relationship was on full display in the Courtroom.
No, instead of offering any remorse whatsoever, she sought him out afterward to perpetuate "the story" and to carry the burden of her life, apparently not caring she had just dumped him unceremoniously the night before.
With that particular person, there was not a single hint from the testimony that she offered a single hint that she felt badly about the way she treated him; that her behavior had been in any way, abusive and manipulative.
You could see it. He's still in love. He's literally the abused boyfriend, always willing to come back.
But he also distanced himself, in the words the Jury will now consider for four long days, odd words for him to use: "it's her show."
