indian-outlaw said:
In several cases yes, and he very well could have done it with the worst OL in the BSC.
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JC Transfers and FBS Drop-Downs!!!
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In several cases yes, and he very well could have done it with the worst OL in the BSC.
Easily the worst, I’d say.grizindabox said:
indian-outlaw
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How do you think we stack up as far as our WR, LB, DL or QB? how about depth or athletes top to bottom? I think we were about right at a 6-5 record if you don't over or under perform. I don't remember a lot of complaints about the quality of athletes Stitt brought in here. I just remember hearing how we out recruited the cats every year. Now all of a sudden Hauck comes back and we have no athletes. How could Hauck be expected to win with all theses losers on the roster? I am not defending Stitt at all, just saying I don't remember people saying we had crappy athletes coming down the pike.uofmman1122 said:
My recollection is eGriz was pretty enthusiastic about the recruiting classes Stitt put together. Unfortunately many are no longer on the team, for a variety of reasons.
Carder Key, Isaiah Banks, Ashton Torres, Yeti, are a few highly touted recruits we didn’t hold onto long enough to get any return on investment.
Carder Key, Isaiah Banks, Ashton Torres, Yeti, are a few highly touted recruits we didn’t hold onto long enough to get any return on investment.
cmtgrizzly
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Personally I think we have better athletes than essentially anyone in the BSC at several positions and I think we have more of these athletes at more positions than anyone. However, I think we have a few areas of weakness and diminished depth combined with a new coaching staff that led to us destroying teams at times and turning around and giving it back at others. Those areas of weakness are not shared by the better teams in the conference. We arent that far away from being the first half team we saw in most games this year for entire games.
indian-outlaw said:
Dude, it is egriz. The super majority of posters are always going to say that every year.
For next year, this team needs help at OL, DL, CB and another RB that are ready to play now. Then they need to add all the depth they can.
indian-outlaw
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I am aware of that. My point is that we had athletes this year. They did not exactly fit Coach Hauck's system, there were certainly some holes like OL but we had some players. I do think Hauck did a fine job this year with the players he had, after bringing in a whole new staff and system. I do believe that Hauck will do well given time. He has proven that he is a really good recruiter which amazes me because of the way he treats some of his players. I am only saying that recruiting is hit or miss and with the parity of the BSC the last 5 years don't expect him to have us dominating everyone in year two or three. We dominated teams in Haucks first tour because we had dominant athletes. He's not Mike Leach or even Mike Price, he's more like Mike Kramer, he's not going to outsmart anyone.grizindabox said:
Re: Non-qualifiers.
That is a NCAA rule. Schools are bound by the decision of the clearing house or eligibility center.
1. Either you completely qualify or you don't. There is no partial qualifying for Division 1 schools.
2. You can bring in non-qualifiers, but they cannot participate. They cannot receive athletic scholarship either. They cannot play until they are cleared by the clearing house. Any non-qualifier who is on campus, anywhere, eligibility clock begins. Eastern Washington can take those kids if they want, but they would be still non-qualifiers until they fulfilled all requirements to become eligible. Getting eligibility while on campus is a whole different animal, but it requires both NCAA program approval and college approval.
3. NCAA allows students on an appeal basis to earn back eligibility, but the eligibility is much more difficult to achieve than the old Prop 48 students 10 or 15 years ago. Lots of milestones they have to complete, including I believe graduating with the class they entered with.
4. Students with a 2.3 or lower GPA in HS must academically redshirt, provided they meet all other clearing house requirements.
That is a NCAA rule. Schools are bound by the decision of the clearing house or eligibility center.
1. Either you completely qualify or you don't. There is no partial qualifying for Division 1 schools.
2. You can bring in non-qualifiers, but they cannot participate. They cannot receive athletic scholarship either. They cannot play until they are cleared by the clearing house. Any non-qualifier who is on campus, anywhere, eligibility clock begins. Eastern Washington can take those kids if they want, but they would be still non-qualifiers until they fulfilled all requirements to become eligible. Getting eligibility while on campus is a whole different animal, but it requires both NCAA program approval and college approval.
3. NCAA allows students on an appeal basis to earn back eligibility, but the eligibility is much more difficult to achieve than the old Prop 48 students 10 or 15 years ago. Lots of milestones they have to complete, including I believe graduating with the class they entered with.
4. Students with a 2.3 or lower GPA in HS must academically redshirt, provided they meet all other clearing house requirements.
You can’t build a team of it but a few keys transfers can be huge. This year I think we’ll get a few (at least hoping) however you never know how they’ll adjust or fit it in. Also, we have a lot of holes that can’t be fixed with transfer rather it’ll take a lot of internal improvement.
Ursus1 said:
And if just you mean yesterday, you would be correct.
Sam A. Blitz
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FBS dropdowns have a much higher success rate than JC transfers, especially in contributing immediately.
indian-outlaw said:
I was a student athlete at UM during his first tenure; I know many ex-Griz football players. From what I understand he had high expectations across the board and pushed them do things they did not believe were possible. I know guys who say he's a tough "sonuvagun", but I have not read or heard any ex-players saying they dislike(d) him.
I'm sure there are anecdotes that fit both narratives, but I will leave you with this:
http://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/the-other-side-of-bobby-hauck-montana-s-coach-loyal/article_dcb51cec-acff-536f-ba87-e9f03e737b61.html
