griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:Watching Weber right now. They have way more strength and speed than the current Griz roster. it’s not even close imo.
That plus a good coach is why Weber kicked UM’s ass a month or so ago.
I don't agree. I think we have great talent on the roster. With Jensen being a second year starter, a good coach will be able to win a few playoff games next year and not make excuses. Go Griz!
Jensen is a good player with huge upside. Agreed.
But overall team speed and strength is severely lacking. Just watch some playoff football.
CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:Watching Weber right now. They have way more strength and speed than the current Griz roster. it’s not even close imo.
That plus a good coach is why Weber kicked UM’s ass a month or so ago.
I don't agree. I think we have great talent on the roster. With Jensen being a second year starter, a good coach will be able to win a few playoff games next year and not make excuses. Go Griz!
Jensen is a good player with huge upside. Agreed.
But overall team speed and strength is severely lacking. Just watch some playoff football.
I've been watching. I think our guys can hang with most teams talent wise, but the coaching was lacking. The new guy will bring great coaching back, and we will have absolutely no reason to go 7-4 missing the tourney in the next two years. I'm going to have major issues with the staff if they don't make a legit run within two years with this roster and guys coming in.
CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:Watching Weber right now. They have way more strength and speed than the current Griz roster. it’s not even close imo.
That plus a good coach is why Weber kicked UM’s ass a month or so ago.
I don't agree. I think we have great talent on the roster. With Jensen being a second year starter, a good coach will be able to win a few playoff games next year and not make excuses. Go Griz!
putter said:I remember when Hauck came in the first time. People were bitching that he took the names off the back of the jerseys. This was his way of making them earn being on "his" team. He came in with attitude from day one....and then lost to a D2 team at home. It will be interesting how he takes over this time, if it is indeed him.
bgbigdog said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:Watching Weber right now. They have way more strength and speed than the current Griz roster. it’s not even close imo.
That plus a good coach is why Weber kicked UM’s ass a month or so ago.
I don't agree. I think we have great talent on the roster. With Jensen being a second year starter, a good coach will be able to win a few playoff games next year and not make excuses. Go Griz!
I’d bet you your favorite keg of beer for the beer delivery device under the toaster you watch games on in your garage that the next coach isn’t going to spend ten minutes explaining in two separate press conferences why he’d never seen anything like it, (after 20 plus years of coaching) & after spotting them 3, if they’d gotten a turnover in the second half that they’d have beaten Weebs.
This was as good as it was going to get.
griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:I don't agree. I think we have great talent on the roster. With Jensen being a second year starter, a good coach will be able to win a few playoff games next year and not make excuses. Go Griz!
Jensen is a good player with huge upside. Agreed.
But overall team speed and strength is severely lacking. Just watch some playoff football.
I've been watching. I think our guys can hang with most teams talent wise, but the coaching was lacking. The new guy will bring great coaching back, and we will have absolutely no reason to go 7-4 missing the tourney in the next two years. I'm going to have major issues with the staff if they don't make a legit run within two years with this roster and guys coming in.
I expect a bsc championship and a couple playoff wins. With that said, overall team speed and strength is lacking.
speed + strength + skill = Talent.
Did you just watch the Weber/WIU game? You really think the 2017 Griz beat either of those teams?
Sounds like Ash's philosophy at MSU.Fushiznitz said:However, I think he saw the defensive and ST weaknesses (by no means do I think he is stupid), but either chose to ignore them, or thought his offense could overcome them. Obviously not the case.
CDAGRIZ said:putter said:I remember when Hauck came in the first time. People were bitching that he took the names off the back of the jerseys. This was his way of making them earn being on "his" team. He came in with attitude from day one....and then lost to a D2 team at home. It will be interesting how he takes over this time, if it is indeed him.
He sure as shit had better do better than 7-4, I know that. Returning QB, great receivers, improving defensive talent, etc. No excuse to lose 4 freaking games next year. Period.
griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:I don't agree. I think we have great talent on the roster. With Jensen being a second year starter, a good coach will be able to win a few playoff games next year and not make excuses. Go Griz!
Jensen is a good player with huge upside. Agreed.
But overall team speed and strength is severely lacking. Just watch some playoff football.
I've been watching. I think our guys can hang with most teams talent wise, but the coaching was lacking. The new guy will bring great coaching back, and we will have absolutely no reason to go 7-4 missing the tourney in the next two years. I'm going to have major issues with the staff if they don't make a legit run within two years with this roster and guys coming in.
I expect a bsc championship and a couple playoff wins. With that said, overall team speed and strength is lacking.
speed + strength + skill = Talent.
Did you just watch the Weber/WIU game? You really think the 2017 Griz beat either of those teams?
griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:I don't agree. I think we have great talent on the roster. With Jensen being a second year starter, a good coach will be able to win a few playoff games next year and not make excuses. Go Griz!
Jensen is a good player with huge upside. Agreed.
But overall team speed and strength is severely lacking. Just watch some playoff football.
I've been watching. I think our guys can hang with most teams talent wise, but the coaching was lacking. The new guy will bring great coaching back, and we will have absolutely no reason to go 7-4 missing the tourney in the next two years. I'm going to have major issues with the staff if they don't make a legit run within two years with this roster and guys coming in.
I expect a bsc championship and a couple playoff wins. With that said, overall team speed and strength is lacking.
speed + strength + skill = Talent.
Did you just watch the Weber/WIU game? You really think the 2017 Griz beat either of those teams?
griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:putter said:I remember when Hauck came in the first time. People were bitching that he took the names off the back of the jerseys. This was his way of making them earn being on "his" team. He came in with attitude from day one....and then lost to a D2 team at home. It will be interesting how he takes over this time, if it is indeed him.
He sure as shit had better do better than 7-4, I know that. Returning QB, great receivers, improving defensive talent, etc. No excuse to lose 4 freaking games next year. Period.
Returning QB? Sure.
Great receivers? No.
Improving defensive talent? Explain.
Bobby will take these lemons and make great lemonade, but let’s not act like this is some roster bursting with talent and depth. It’s not.
CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:putter said:I remember when Hauck came in the first time. People were bitching that he took the names off the back of the jerseys. This was his way of making them earn being on "his" team. He came in with attitude from day one....and then lost to a D2 team at home. It will be interesting how he takes over this time, if it is indeed him.
He sure as shit had better do better than 7-4, I know that. Returning QB, great receivers, improving defensive talent, etc. No excuse to lose 4 freaking games next year. Period.
Returning QB? Sure.
Great receivers? No.
Improving defensive talent? Explain.
Bobby will take these lemons and make great lemonade, but let’s not act like this is some roster bursting with talent and depth. It’s not.
The young WRs are very good and will only be more developed after the new coach gets after them in the spring. I think all of these guys (secondary especially), with this year being fed to the wolves under their belts, will be much improved next season. Add some swagger and BH & Co. should take this team very far. If not, something is very wrong. I'm not tolerating any excuses this time around, that's for sure.
griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:He sure as shit had better do better than 7-4, I know that. Returning QB, great receivers, improving defensive talent, etc. No excuse to lose 4 freaking games next year. Period.
Returning QB? Sure.
Great receivers? No.
Improving defensive talent? Explain.
Bobby will take these lemons and make great lemonade, but let’s not act like this is some roster bursting with talent and depth. It’s not.
The young WRs are very good and will only be more developed after the new coach gets after them in the spring. I think all of these guys (secondary especially), with this year being fed to the wolves under their belts, will be much improved next season. Add some swagger and BH & Co. should take this team very far. If not, something is very wrong. I'm not tolerating any excuses this time around, that's for sure.
Hauck is inheriting a worse team from Stitt, than Stitt inherited from Delaney.
Can we all agree on that?
Delaney’s last 2 years
2013 - 10-3, 3rd in bsc, playoffs
2014 - 9-5, 2nd in bsc, playoffs
Stitt’s last 2 years
2016 - 6-5, 8th in bsc, no playoffs
2017 - 7-4, 6th in bsc, no playoffs
ordigger said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:Returning QB? Sure.
Great receivers? No.
Improving defensive talent? Explain.
Bobby will take these lemons and make great lemonade, but let’s not act like this is some roster bursting with talent and depth. It’s not.
The young WRs are very good and will only be more developed after the new coach gets after them in the spring. I think all of these guys (secondary especially), with this year being fed to the wolves under their belts, will be much improved next season. Add some swagger and BH & Co. should take this team very far. If not, something is very wrong. I'm not tolerating any excuses this time around, that's for sure.
Hauck is inheriting a worse team from Stitt, than Stitt inherited from Delaney.
Can we all agree on that?
Delaney’s last 2 years
2013 - 10-3, 3rd in bsc, playoffs
2014 - 9-5, 2nd in bsc, playoffs
Stitt’s last 2 years
2016 - 6-5, 8th in bsc, no playoffs
2017 - 7-4, 6th in bsc, no playoffs
Your agenda is wearing thin.
griz5700 said:ordigger said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:The young WRs are very good and will only be more developed after the new coach gets after them in the spring. I think all of these guys (secondary especially), with this year being fed to the wolves under their belts, will be much improved next season. Add some swagger and BH & Co. should take this team very far. If not, something is very wrong. I'm not tolerating any excuses this time around, that's for sure.
Hauck is inheriting a worse team from Stitt, than Stitt inherited from Delaney.
Can we all agree on that?
Delaney’s last 2 years
2013 - 10-3, 3rd in bsc, playoffs
2014 - 9-5, 2nd in bsc, playoffs
Stitt’s last 2 years
2016 - 6-5, 8th in bsc, no playoffs
2017 - 7-4, 6th in bsc, no playoffs
Your agenda is wearing thin.
bring some substance sit down, hun.
griz5700 said:ordigger said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:The young WRs are very good and will only be more developed after the new coach gets after them in the spring. I think all of these guys (secondary especially), with this year being fed to the wolves under their belts, will be much improved next season. Add some swagger and BH & Co. should take this team very far. If not, something is very wrong. I'm not tolerating any excuses this time around, that's for sure.
Hauck is inheriting a worse team from Stitt, than Stitt inherited from Delaney.
Can we all agree on that?
Delaney’s last 2 years
2013 - 10-3, 3rd in bsc, playoffs
2014 - 9-5, 2nd in bsc, playoffs
Stitt’s last 2 years
2016 - 6-5, 8th in bsc, no playoffs
2017 - 7-4, 6th in bsc, no playoffs
Your agenda is wearing thin.
bring some substance or sit down, hun.
griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:griz5700 said:CDAGRIZ said:He sure as shit had better do better than 7-4, I know that. Returning QB, great receivers, improving defensive talent, etc. No excuse to lose 4 freaking games next year. Period.
Returning QB? Sure.
Great receivers? No.
Improving defensive talent? Explain.
Bobby will take these lemons and make great lemonade, but let’s not act like this is some roster bursting with talent and depth. It’s not.
The young WRs are very good and will only be more developed after the new coach gets after them in the spring. I think all of these guys (secondary especially), with this year being fed to the wolves under their belts, will be much improved next season. Add some swagger and BH & Co. should take this team very far. If not, something is very wrong. I'm not tolerating any excuses this time around, that's for sure.
Hauck is inheriting a worse team from Stitt, than Stitt inherited from Delaney.
Can we all agree on that?
Delaney’s last 2 years
2013 - 10-3, 3rd in bsc, playoffs
2014 - 9-5, 2nd in bsc, playoffs
Stitt’s last 2 years
2016 - 6-5, 8th in bsc, no playoffs
2017 - 7-4, 6th in bsc, no playoffs
ordigger said:griz5700 said:ordigger said:griz5700 said:Hauck is inheriting a worse team from Stitt, than Stitt inherited from Delaney.
Can we all agree on that?
Delaney’s last 2 years
2013 - 10-3, 3rd in bsc, playoffs
2014 - 9-5, 2nd in bsc, playoffs
Stitt’s last 2 years
2016 - 6-5, 8th in bsc, no playoffs
2017 - 7-4, 6th in bsc, no playoffs
Your agenda is wearing thin.
bring some substance sit down, hun.
And let us not forget, you''re the dumb **** that tweeted Reese about how aweful he was, and embarrassment to Griz Nation.