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Is undercutting Griz wins a sign of

UM has never been top 2 every year.

Top 6, 6 and 14 is pretty good. Only 4 current FCS teams have done better than that in past 3 years. One of those teams has won only 1 playoff games in those 3 years.

No one thinks 6, 6 and 14 is good enough.
 
uofmman1122 said:
AZGrizFan said:
I’m simply paraphrasing what you said. You’d rather stick with Bobby than take the chance of another Stitt hire… And if he CAN get the job done, WTF is he waiting for?
I’m actually totally fine if they decided to move on and roll the dice on a new head coach. I’m just not convinced like many that that would just automatically turn us into a top 2 team every year.

Well we’ll never know unless we try, right? Or, we can just learn to be happy with 3-6th place finishes in the BSC and a playoff win or two every year.

(Personally I prefer option A)…and if YOU prefer option A, we have to ask: How many years does Bobby get?
 
Nope. Name any poster who has out me in my place. And explain why. You are ignorant.
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"Name any poster who has out me in my place."

Once again......one out of two sentences that make absolutely no sense at all.

Ivy League? Who's ignorant? Do you have any kindergarten grandkids? If so have them help you out.
 
AZGrizFan said:
uofmman1122 said:
I’m actually totally fine if they decided to move on and roll the dice on a new head coach. I’m just not convinced like many that that would just automatically turn us into a top 2 team every year.

Well we’ll never know unless we try, right? Or, we can just learn to be happy with 3-6th place finishes in the BSC and a playoff win or two every year.

(Personally I prefer option A)…and if YOU prefer option A, we have to ask: How many years does Bobby get?
I don't really have a preference because I still think Bobby can get us there, but if the alternative was luring someone like Zach Lujan from SDSU, then I'd be down to try it, I guess.

I think Bobby probably gets as many years as he wants, honestly.

Before I start talking about any of that, though, I'd like to see how our 3-0 team does this year before already writing them off completely.
 
'Completely' is a kind of permanent word. I'll let y'all know when the season is over. Have my expectations been met to this point? No. Are my expectations high? Yes. :thumb:
 
AZGrizFan said:
uofmman1122 said:
I'm not the one who made this about coach Stitt. You did.

I've never even said I am happy with where Hauck has our team. Just that it's a lot better than where the previous coach had us. And your facts don't refute that. I love how Hauck sucks because he only made the quartefinals twice in the same post where you say the guy who never made it there ever was unfairly maligned. And I'm the one blindly supporting someone? :lol:


I'm sure there probably is, but it certainly isn't and never was Bob Stitt.

I’ll ask it again: Is merely being better than Bob Stitt enough? Because that’s a pretty low bar…

Imagine for a moment, that once upon a time, we hired a guy to bake a cake. A really good cake so we could enter it in a contest... bear with me on this one.

Now imagine the guy we hired said that the cake he was making needed to cook in the oven for 90 minutes before it was fully baked.

But then for some reason, maybe we were entitled or impatient or both, we decided that we wanted to win the contest faster. And so we took that cake out of the oven after only an hour and entered the unfinished cake in the contest.

Can you imagine how foolish we would sound when we started to complain about how the unbaked cake wasn't as good as the other fully-baked cakes?

Or how stupid we would sound if we started insulting the guy we hired by repeatedly saying he was a terrible baker because his unfinished cake wasn't as good as another guy's fully-baked cake?

In the end, we lost the contest because we were too short-sighted and impatient to wait for the cake to finish baking.

What's most tragic, is that the cake had amazing ingredients and would have won a lot contests if it had been allowed to fully bake.

But we were too arrogant, foolish, and stupid so we fired the baker and threw his unfinished cake in the garbage.

The End.
 
When was the 'GrizCake' originally supposed to be done right? Just WHAT was that recipe?

Analogies. I love analogies. 8-)
 
I’m currently ordering cake on Postmates. I didn’t think it would be part of my evening, and I probably shouldn’t do it, but the frosting is on your hands, MCGF.
 
Actually the recipe was fine, but burned up by Royce. Time to start over. The rest is bakers history... :roll: ...history can be such a bitch!
 
1122 posted that Colter N says this:


"Ferris State would win every league in the FCS besides the MVFC and the Big Sky, [...] they would contend for the league title in the Big Sky"

Posters who can’t see past D2 show that they don’t understand football. As I said.
 
mthoopsfan said:
1122 posted that Colter N says this:


"Ferris State would win every league in the FCS besides the MVFC and the Big Sky, [...] they would contend for the league title in the Big Sky"

Posters who can’t see past D2 show that they don’t understand football. As I said.
Ferris State is one of the better teams that has played in our stadium….talented players and well coached. Posters that don’t recognize that don’t understand football and likely don’t understand any sport. Many of these Bobby Hauck critics have forgotten that Bobby was the coach of the Griz team that beat the University of Washington in Seattle. I would think that 99% of these so called fans were crowing about how Bobby was going to get his head handed to him at the time.
 
uofmman1122 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Well we’ll never know unless we try, right? Or, we can just learn to be happy with 3-6th place finishes in the BSC and a playoff win or two every year.

(Personally I prefer option A)…and if YOU prefer option A, we have to ask: How many years does Bobby get?
I don't really have a preference because I still think Bobby can get us there, but if the alternative was luring someone like Zach Lujan from SDSU, then I'd be down to try it, I guess.

I think Bobby probably gets as many years as he wants, honestly.

Before I start talking about any of that, though, I'd like to see how our 3-0 team does this year before already writing them off completely.

Agreed 100%. Even with the statement that he gets as many years as he wants, sadly, almost regardless of performance.
 
MiningCityGrizFan said:
AZGrizFan said:
I’ll ask it again: Is merely being better than Bob Stitt enough? Because that’s a pretty low bar…

Imagine for a moment, that once upon a time, we hired a guy to bake a cake. A really good cake so we could enter it in a contest... bear with me on this one.

Now imagine the guy we hired said that the cake he was making needed to cook in the oven for 90 minutes before it was fully baked.

But then for some reason, maybe we were entitled or impatient or both, we decided that we wanted to win the contest faster. And so we took that cake out of the oven after only an hour and entered the unfinished cake in the contest.

Can you imagine how foolish we would sound when we started to complain about how the unbaked cake wasn't as good as the other fully-baked cakes?

Or how stupid we would sound if we started insulting the guy we hired by repeatedly saying he was a terrible baker because his unfinished cake wasn't as good as another guy's fully-baked cake?

In the end, we lost the contest because we were too short-sighted and impatient to wait for the cake to finish baking.

What's most tragic, is that the cake had amazing ingredients and would have won a lot contests if it had been allowed to fully bake.

But we were too arrogant, foolish, and stupid so we fired the baker and threw his unfinished cake in the garbage.

The End.

I’m with you on the cake analogy. Let me add a caveat: Imagine if you will, while taking that cake out of the oven to check it’s readiness you then drop it on the floor, and the amazing ingredients go everywhere. THAT’S what happened in Greeley. I was there, I witnessed it.

I was the biggest Stitt supporter on here…hell still gets me riled up when people make baseless claims like “he left the O-line cupboard bare” or “he focused so much on receivers he didn’t recruited O-linemen” (both of which are categorically untrue statements)…but at the end of the day, the experiment was failing. And when you suffer a loss of confidence in your ability to lead, the ending is already written.

And to continue that analogy: Hauck’s cake is fully baked. We know what we have. The question is, after six years, is this the best cake we’re ever going to get again? Or are we willing to risk hiring a different cook?
 
AZGrizFan said:
uofmman1122 said:
I don't really have a preference because I still think Bobby can get us there, but if the alternative was luring someone like Zach Lujan from SDSU, then I'd be down to try it, I guess.

I think Bobby probably gets as many years as he wants, honestly.

Before I start talking about any of that, though, I'd like to see how our 3-0 team does this year before already writing them off completely.

Agreed 100%. Even with the statement that he gets as many years as he wants, sadly, almost regardless of performance.

I hope they extend Bobby 5-6 more years. But unfortunately for gris fans, what’s the alternative? Most of these coaches would love to have 1-2 winning seasons at Wa-gris so they can move up to a G5/ lower P5 gig.

Your admin are going for the law of large numbers theory, hoping at some point his magic from the first stint will stick. Time to roll the dice next spring IMO. But again, I hope they stick with Bobby and his BFF’s for years to come.
 
It’s an interesting theory on Stitt and the lost fourth year. It’s possible the team may have performed better with another year in the same system.

The thing for me was that in both the 2016 and 2017 Cat-Griz games, the team came out flat as a pancake. That’s indicative of a team that lacks leadership, and that’s on the coach. If you can’t get your kids fired up for Cat-Griz, you’re not gonna win very many big games.
 
MiningCityGrizFan said:
AZGrizFan said:
I’ll ask it again: Is merely being better than Bob Stitt enough? Because that’s a pretty low bar…

Imagine for a moment, that once upon a time, we hired a guy to bake a cake. A really good cake so we could enter it in a contest... bear with me on this one.

Now imagine the guy we hired said that the cake he was making needed to cook in the oven for 90 minutes before it was fully baked.

But then for some reason, maybe we were entitled or impatient or both, we decided that we wanted to win the contest faster. And so we took that cake out of the oven after only an hour and entered the unfinished cake in the contest.

Can you imagine how foolish we would sound when we started to complain about how the unbaked cake wasn't as good as the other fully-baked cakes?

Or how stupid we would sound if we started insulting the guy we hired by repeatedly saying he was a terrible baker because his unfinished cake wasn't as good as another guy's fully-baked cake?

In the end, we lost the contest because we were too short-sighted and impatient to wait for the cake to finish baking.

What's most tragic, is that the cake had amazing ingredients and would have won a lot contests if it had been allowed to fully bake.

But we were too arrogant, foolish, and stupid so we fired the baker and threw his unfinished cake in the garbage.

The End.

BH's past success was his ability to take the leftover cake that someone else made, put some new frosting on it.... and pass it off as his own.... BH has no idea how to make his own cake that can win the top prize...
 
mtgriz said:
It’s an interesting theory on Stitt and the lost fourth year. It’s possible the team may have performed better with another year in the same system.

The thing for me was that in both the 2016 and 2017 Cat-Griz games, the team came out flat as a pancake. That’s indicative of a team that lacks leadership, and that’s on the coach. If you can’t get your kids fired up for Cat-Griz, you’re not gonna win very many big games.
Despite the flack I've given people about Bob in this thread, I'm actually one of the people who wanted to see what he could do with another year. I do have a pretty strong feeling looking back now based on the results of 2018 with a lot of the same players on the roster that it likely would've been over after that year no matter what, though.

And yeah, losing to those cat teams was just bad. We had the better roster both years and blew it, especially in 2016.
 
mtgriz said:
If you can’t get your kids fired up for Cat-Griz, you’re not gonna win very many big games.

THERE is the conundrum. IF BH is replaced, replaced with whom? BH has no problem getting fired up playing the scats. So, you put the likes of old green hat, an out of stater, and our Griz come out flat........its on him, agreed. Joe Glenn was out of state, and he did very well, until he wanted to move on.
 
3-7-77 said:
mtgriz said:
If you can’t get your kids fired up for Cat-Griz, you’re not gonna win very many big games.

THERE is the conundrum. IF BH is replaced, replaced with whom? BH has no problem getting fired up playing the scats. So, you put the likes of old green hat, an out of stater, and our Griz come out flat........its on him, agreed. Joe Glenn was out of state, and he did very well, until he wanted to move on.

Bobby sure had 'em fired up last year!
 

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