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Is Simis better than Prokop?

snap said:
I'd say that Simis is the superior overall quarterback. He's more accurate, puts a nice touch on the ball and is more intelligent with his decision making. Furthermore, he's respected by the team. I've heard that Purvcop is on the verge of losing his teammates because of his 'me first' attitude.
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I've heard that too, although the Wombat locker room has a history of ... "problems," and those of course go to Ash's "style." Watched an interesting interview with Urban Meyer this afternoon, promoting his new book “Above the Link: Lessons in Leadership and Life from a Championship Season.”
As he enters his 14th season as a head coach, Meyer's philosophy has evolved to the point where he believes chemistry and culture trump schemes and star rankings. Having great players is a necessity for winning, but so is having the cohesiveness to maximize that talent.
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Meyer's favorite quote of this off-season came from the mother of Amy Nicol, his longtime football administration coordinator. Lisa Halpin, an elementary school teacher in Alabama, emailed Meyer a quote from British philosopher G.K. Chesterton:
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
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Meyer took it as the ultimate compliment to the clarity of his program's culture that Nicol's mom could summarize it with a quote he proceeded to hang all around the football facility. "Wow," he says. "How cool is that?"
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http://www.campusrush.com/ohio-state-leadership-training-urban-meyer-1311015832.html

During the interview (on Fox with Bill O'Reilly), he commented how this is a military philosophy, and he insists on it on his units, not the teams, but the units.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4580033006001/coach-urban-meyer-enters-the-no-spin-zone/?playlist_id=930909812001#sp=show-clips

Ash can't do that. Stitt, perhaps, he's very much an Urban Meyer kind of guy.
 
Big G said:
Were were talking about this during a game today but has Prokop ever thrown 6 tds in a game? If Simis keeps this up he could still break some records this season. He is the first QB this year that has looked unstoppable
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After one game? Just stop.
 
Let's not forget, after Brady's first start he was "better than JJ". If egriz wisdom transfers, Simis is at least Prukop + Johnson by this weekend. By right, that makes him superior to Dave Dickenson so our offensive woes are over.

And I was beginning to think my lucky griz penny was keeping us from another national championship.
 
skizm_ said:
Let's not forget, after Brady's first start he was "better than JJ".
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I don't think anybody claimed that, therefore, there is nothing to "forget."

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They did, I originally posted about it, but I'm referring in general to the over-hyping mentality that stems from good statistical first performances and leads to claims like, "NDSU is overrated," and "You would have had a better season with this guy than your starter or your backup last year." Now it may be Semis' turn (but I'm on board too, I thought it was special how you could just sense the exact moment he got comfortable Saturday.)

I don't think my esoteric joke merited that generic meme, forgive me.
 
Brady. NDSU
30 pass completions out of 55 attempts, a 55% success rate. He put up great passing yardage at 434 yards, and averaged 14.4 yards per successful pass. He had three passes that resulted in touchdowns, 5.5% of his attempted pass total, 10% of his successful pass total. Rushing yards net, 4.
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Makena. UND
16 pass completions out of 23 attempts, a 70% completion rate; averaging 20 yards per successful throw. Total, 323 yards. The six TD passes represented 26% of his total passing attempts and 38% of his successful passing efforts. Rushing yards net, 16.
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Comparing these two first starting games for these two QB, compare to Prukop's 2015 stats:
Dakota (season average)
17 pass completions out of 28.4 attempts, a 62.8% completion rate; averaging 16.5 yds per successful attempt. Total average 294 passing yards. Averages 2.57 TD passes per game. TD passes represent 9% of his total passing attempts and 16% of his successful passing efforts. Rushing yards 79. Average rushing TD, 1.1 per game.
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You guys... Big G in particular for starting such an absurd premise thread, are insane.

You may very well beat us in Bozo, but I can guarantee that it won't be because Prukop didn't kick your ass.
 
If the ETSU game isn't counted, Dakota's pass completion percentage falls to 61%. His average completed pass in the ETSU game was just 15 yards. Without ETSU, in half of the Wombat games Dakota fell below 60% pass completion, 58.3% (Fort Lewis), 54.5% (Sac State) and 56.0% (Portland State).
 
skizm_ said:
Now it may be Semis' turn (but I'm on board too, I thought it was special how you could just sense the exact moment he got comfortable Saturday.)

I don't think my esoteric joke merited that generic meme, forgive me.
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I was looking for an excuse to use my favorite bunny/pancake poster.

Makena may have just had one of those "luck of the draw" moments when everything just falls into place. But, there was a defining moment there, suddenly, a couple of awkward plays turned into some very fine passing offense. It was like somebody threw a switch. As you say, he "got comfortable" and you could see it. Coach Delaney recruited Makena as one of his standout recruits and if Saturday's game was any indicator or vindication, he done well. He was at the Mo Club with Mrs. Delaney (Coach Delaney was, not Makena) Sunday afternoon and, yeah, he was pretty pleased.

Now, it is always possible that an average player has a great game, and a great player has a bad game. Makena wasn't recruited as an average player, and so going forward, we have some assurance that was not a fluke.

In sports, everything is found in the accumulated statistical averages except for the memories of those great, distinctive games that sometimes define a career, sometimes not. But the memory is a great one. We'll see what happens next.
 
UMGriz75 said:
skizm_ said:
Now it may be Semis' turn (but I'm on board too, I thought it was special how you could just sense the exact moment he got comfortable Saturday.)

I don't think my esoteric joke merited that generic meme, forgive me.
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I was looking for an excuse to use my favorite bunny/pancake poster.

Makena may have just had one of those "luck of the draw" moments when everything just falls into place. But, there was a defining moment there, suddenly, a couple of awkward plays turned into some very fine passing offense. It was like somebody threw a switch. As you say, he "got comfortable" and you could see it. Coach Delaney recruited Makena as one of his standout recruits and if Saturday's game was any indicator or vindication, he done well. He was at the Mo Club with Mrs. Delaney (Coach Delaney was, not Makena) Sunday afternoon and, yeah, he was pretty pleased.

Now, it is always possible that an average player has a great game, and a great player has a bad game. Makena wasn't recruited as an average player, and so going forward, we have some assurance that was not a fluke.

In sports, everything is found in the accumulated statistical averages except for the memories of those great, distinctive games that sometimes define a career, sometimes not. But the memory is a great one. We'll see what happens next.
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If I remember right, Timm Rosenbach was instrumental in Simis' recruitment. I could easily be wrong about that though...?
 
Simis has football savy. His dad is a high school football coach and was a good person to mentor the kid all during his earlier days. His long ball skill comes from throwing many many balls during his high school years and even before. His only down was the quick reads for second and third receivers as he is not as sharp as Stitt wanted in that regard. But make no mistake this kid can play QB. Like many kids this guy is a gamer. As said many times before he just has "it". Yes he is young and un-proven but this is how these things begin so stay tuned.

Prokop? Is that a bird? Longtimecatfan seems to to know as he continues to troll along w/prokop.
 
Umista said:
Simis has football savy. His dad is a high school football coach and was a good person to mentor the kid all during his earlier days. His long ball skill comes from throwing many many balls during his high school years and even before. His only down was the quick reads for second and third receivers as he is not as sharp as Stitt wanted in that regard.
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Brady has the stronger arm, but he's only effective at a medium range. His long ball is almost always overthrown and this became more apparent after NDSU. And "miscommunication" was a word used more for Brady than any other QB at UM. Makena is the opposite, his long ball skills, at least in that one game, are extraordinary, and his communication skills appear to be just what Henderson, Jones, and Roberts want and need.

As Taylor Barton noted, this was a simplified offense for Makena, but if that is what a "simplified" offense can produce, we need more of that. We will see what PSU does with the game film ... UND generally had good coverage, not sure what else they could have done, but the combination of Makena's beautiful passes directly to Henderson, Jones, et. al. and the ability of Henderson, Jones, et al to make impressive catches under that pressure, was one of the best consistent combinations of QB "read" and WR "skill" I have seen in a long time.
 
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