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Is it time for coaching changes at Montana ?

I know this is cheating, but I’d take C and A. Hopefully start C and develop A until C transfers.
Which is why I believe we should try for the C’s. A’s can try to compete for time and perhaps become serviceable in time. B’s are dinosaurs in the new era, IMO.
 
How long does it take defensive players taken in the portal to learn and feel comfortable in the 3-3-5 defense. I’m assuming most haven’t been introduced to it prior.
 
I would be surprised. Two years ago, when we lost, we still thought we had a great defense. The ass-kicking in Bozeman was a shocker. People this year are tired of Bobby and his antics.

Fauque Alpha, we are tired of YOUR antics. It’s been 20 plus years of your Bobby Hauck hating. Let it go, or put a cork in it. You are just tiresome
 
How long does it take defensive players taken in the portal to learn and feel comfortable in the 3-3-5 defense. I’m assuming most haven’t been introduced to it prior.
Bobby says at least a half season. That may be generally and not just 3-3-5.
 
I don’t disagree, but what’s your take on this scenario? You get to choose one QB:

Player A: Great Montana AA QB. Rewrote the record books playing Montana AA competition;

Player B: Saw very limited time for a mid FBS team for a couple years. Didn’t have compelling FBS offers in the portal, so dropped to UM; or

Player C: Played HS in the Trinity League (or similar). Didn’t get great FBS offers, but doesn’t want to sit on the bench for 2-3 years. You know he’ll likely bail to the portal eventually, but you get a guy who may be ready on day one of year one or two due to him facing competition more equivalent to the FCS.

I guess the problem (opportunity) with the portal is, if an FBS guy is good, he’d likely not fall to UM because he doesn’t have to sit out these days. In a sentence: I think Ochs would’ve landed at another FBS program if he transferred from CU today, not UM.
And Drew Miller.
 
And Drew Miller.
Exactly. Didn’t have to sit based on rules back then, and that was an incentive. There’s no incentive anymore. That’s where I think we can find recruiting opportunities out of HS. I’m a broken record, but winning the in-state recruiting battle is a dumb battle to fight.
 
I think he had a lot to do with developing them into great players and look at all the good players he has recruited...Not sure he will have an easy time replacing the QB but where else will he be hurting?
What he REALLY had a lot to do with was developing a system that leveraged the unique talents of his skill players. Something Bobby/Pease et al refuse to do. Bobby continues trying to cram square pegs into round holes, getting the same result, and wondering why its not working.
You don’t think he changed the entire system last year to leverage the talent of McDowell??? What are you talking about? You think we were somehow running the wrong system with Fife and Ah Yat?
 
Exactly. Didn’t have to sit based on rules back then, and that was an incentive. There’s no incentive anymore. That’s where I think we can find recruiting opportunities out of HS. I’m a broken record, but winning the in-state recruiting battle is a dumb battle to fight.
Not addressing your point, which I have come to understand and find interesting, but getting top players from MT reduces scholarship costs for football. And the coaches like the MT-led work ethic.
 
every game....early on the defense struggled but the offense was putting up a lot of points. Now the D has figured it out and the Pease we all know has shown back up and looks so vanilla using his tecmo bowl playbook....that is a huge need to change. I also personally think Bobby has lost the lockerroom.
Watching the sideline interactions with the players and coaches - something is off. Noticed the same thing last year but we had enough talent to overcome most of it. There seems to be a small rift between some of the coaches and players.
 
Not addressing your point, which I have come to understand and find interesting, but getting top players from MT reduces scholarship costs for football. And the coaches like the MT-led work ethic.
and many Montana fans like watching Montana kids..That is the reason that once the Griz are out of the playoffs I start rooting for the scats...because of the Montana kids.
 
Watching the sideline interactions with the players and coaches - something is off. Noticed the same thing last year but we had enough talent to overcome most of it. There seems to be a small rift between some of the coaches and players.
Watching press conferences? Has anyone got a feeling of this? I haven't. I just doubt the locker room is lost. I guess in a week or two we'll see because a lost locker room is resulting in players tweeting transfer intents. And if that was the case last year don't you think JB transfers? We were hearing about big NIL deals.
 
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Not addressing your point, which I have come to understand and find interesting, but getting top players from MT reduces scholarship costs for football. And the coaches like the MT-led work ethic.
First, I agree the financial side of it is a huge factor. I'm talking specifically about QBs (and, I suppose, the secondary). So, not very many scholarships.

Second, I can guarantee you that the "work ethic" isn't unique to Montana. There's no state border that magically grants its inhabitants some mystical soft factor of "[state] work ethic". DI FB players all have it, or they won't last long. We need to get over that.

Lastly, I would rather have one or two guys ready to contribute early than one or two MT Gatorade players of the year who need (what has felt like) eons to "let the game slow down for them." Accordingly, I don't think the focus should be on winning the in-state recruiting battle.

**Stop reading here if you don't like anecdotes**

One of my family members dated a bball player in HS. 6'7". He was the state player of the year. Just absolutely schooled everyone in his division his senior year. He ended up going to a junior college in Southern Idaho where he got absolutely manhandled by dudes on his team from Chicago, Texas, Oklahoma, California, etc. Transferred to a different JC and the same thing pretty much happened. Never played again. I think it's sometimes a useful exercise for coaches and players to assess whether they're looking at a big fish/small pond scenario.
 
need better talent to execute on the field. Coaching is not the issue
Well who is responsible for having a team of players that need to be have better talent? It isn't high school, coaches recruit the players. A major job of coaches is recruiting the players, not just Xs and Os. Either they can't recruit as well as the other top programs, or they can't set up schemes to utilize the best they can with the athletes they got. Running a defense that relies on a truly dominant interior guy like Gubner without guys like that on the roster is not adapting to a roster, it is jamming square pegs in round holes. When relying on the portal so much also doesn't make sense to use a scheme that is basically new to every portal guy requiring so long for them to "figure it out". Bobby has said at least half a season ( I can think of a couple games that might have been won if they weren't played during this "learning time" this season). Portal guys need to be plug and play not learn on the go. Most portal guys are coming from a standard 4 front that they have learned since middle school, much faster to be successful here. This year they will need a pile of transfers once again to even have a hope of being competitive with the top levels.
 
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