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Is Gus the next Carson Wentz?

Silvertip said:
Poor Emily probably pursued the failed logic that because last August Montana with Gustafson at QB beat NDSU quarterbacked by Wentz ergo let's make Gustafson at least his peer. And oh ya, with that logic the big red head beat the Redskins Sunday so gosh Montana should whup up on Washington too. Duh.

What tickles me is that the know-it all sports media who touted Goff as the better bet coming from a major school in a big five conference is cooling his heels because he's been slow to learn the system in a pro style system which he wasn't schooled in at Cal - but Wentz was in Fargo. Also Dak Prescot, for all the praise he gets, couldn't get the win for Dallas Sunday. Some of the prejudice against 1-AA, uhh FCS, is taking a big hit based on Wentz's performance to date. Time will tell, but FCS players and fans alike should applaud his success.

And BTW, which player in all of the NFL is selling the most jerseys this week? Ya, it's him...the band wagon springs are on overload...
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Wentz beat the browns, not the redskins, who have one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

Obviously Goff has issues to work on I guess but he will be starting there by next year. Wentz is starting in Philly due to a lack of any other competition. Now, he has played well and earned that spot so far but let's be careful about putting him into the HoF quite yet as he has played 1 game, against one of the worst defenses. This next week he's playing against another one of the worst defenses, and worst teams, so he should do well again. The real test will be week 3 against the Sdteelers
 
Wonder how a charter member of the "Fired Coaches Association" would assess Brady compared to Carson Wentz.

Carson Wentz, North Dakota State

With as genuine and clean-cut of an off-field demeanor as you’ll find among recent quarterback NFL Draft prospects, Carson Wentz was always going to prove a feel-good prospect during his sit down with Jon Gruden. He held his own in play diagnosis (albeit a bit slow in recognizing his own play designs and calls at times) and proved he wasn’t at a steep disadvantage is football IQ despite hailing from an FCS program. While the throwing portion of the session is never overly helpful, Wentz got a chance to let his arm talent rip, and he built on his Pro Day to win on the eye test.
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http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/which-qbs-hurt-or-helped-their-draft-stock-by-going-on-grudens-qb-camp.html

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2016/04/watch-jon-grudens-qb-camp-with-carson-wentz-and-jared-goff.html
 
kemajic said:
I cannot recall Wentz sliding for a two yard gain on third and 6 with room to run. The game is tackle football and at some point BG needs to turn into a football player. He is so one-dimensional that he hurts the performance of the OL and the running game. There is no point running a zone read with him.
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LOL
 
jodcon said:
Better question...Is Ursa the next Bruce Jenner?
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I thought that question was answered on his last trip through Missoula. He is the source of many transJenner issues.
 
Every scout that was in Msla to scout Wentz last year saw that the best Qb that day was Brady. After the injury, he has long since been forgotten. He IS 6'7". That alone will garner him some attention. He needs to put up some noticeable stats this year and, oh yeah, improve his play, then yeah he'll get some attention, but nothing like the hype of Wentz, which I am still not convinced of (his #2 draft status). Not many of NDSU's individual players have produced in the NFL. Their all-time leading rusher, John Crockett, failed miserably.
 
Zirg said:
Every scout that was in Msla to scout Wentz last year saw that the best Qb that day was Brady. After the injury, he has long since been forgotten. He IS 6'7". That alone will garner him some attention. He needs to put up some noticeable stats this year and, oh yeah, improve his play, then yeah he'll get some attention, but nothing like the hype of Wentz, which I am still not convinced of (his #2 draft status). Not many of NDSU's individual players have produced in the NFL. Their all-time leading rusher, John Crockett, failed miserably.
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I don't know about that, they currently have at least 3 players who start for their teams, emauel for the chargers, Williams for the jets and wentz on the eagles. not to bad.
 
MrTitleist said:
jodcon said:
Better question...Is Ursa the next Bruce Jenner?
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I thought that question was answered on his last trip through Missoula. He is the source of many transJenner issues.
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I believe the jury is still out . . .
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Zirg said:
Every scout that was in Msla to scout Wentz last year saw that the best Qb that day was Brady. After the injury, he has long since been forgotten. He IS 6'7". That alone will garner him some attention. He needs to put up some noticeable stats this year and, oh yeah, improve his play, then yeah he'll get some attention, but nothing like the hype of Wentz, which I am still not convinced of (his #2 draft status). Not many of NDSU's individual players have produced in the NFL. Their all-time leading rusher, John Crockett, failed miserably.
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Ya....not a single scout saw that. He threw the ball twice as much as Wentz. He should have put up more passing yards. He had several passes in that game which should have been picked off. He really benefited from a great receiving core and an inexperienced NDSU secondary. A lot of dangerous jump ball passes which in the NFL would be picked off nearly all the time. I call his game lucky and fortunate. The second game against NDSU is more in line with the type of QB Gustafson is. Poor decision making, can not go through progressions, not accurate and can not read a defense. Sorry, but he is nowhere near the QB Wentz is. Is he more athletic? No. Does he have a stronger arm? No. Does he operate in a pro style offense? No. Does he read defenses like Wentz did? No. Does he play well under pressure (see last year's playoff performance)? No.

John Crockett is not NDSU's all time leading rusher. He was probably the best running back this preseason for the Packers but is on IR right now with a shoulder injury. Was an undrafted free agent that made their roster. How has he failed miserably? Most undrafted free agents do not make active rosters. Marcus Williams starts for the Jets and was 5th in the NFL last year with 6 picks. Not too shabby. Been some really good NFL players through the years from NDSU. Steve Nelson went to multiple pro bowls, was on the 1st team all pro team one year, and is in the Patriots ring of honor. Phil Hansen started in 3 Super Bowls for the Bills and is in their ring of honor. Tyrone Braxton went to pro bowl with the Broncos and won two super bowl rings.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Zirg said:
Every scout that was in Msla to scout Wentz last year saw that the best Qb that day was Brady. After the injury, he has long since been forgotten. He IS 6'7". That alone will garner him some attention. He needs to put up some noticeable stats this year and, oh yeah, improve his play, then yeah he'll get some attention, but nothing like the hype of Wentz, which I am still not convinced of (his #2 draft status). Not many of NDSU's individual players have produced in the NFL. Their all-time leading rusher, John Crockett, failed miserably.
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Ya....not a single scout saw that. He threw the ball twice as much as Wentz. He should have put up more passing yards. He had several passes in that game which should have been picked off. He really benefited from a great receiving core and an inexperienced NDSU secondary. A lot of dangerous jump ball passes which in the NFL would be picked off nearly all the time. I call his game lucky and fortunate. The second game against NDSU is more in line with the type of QB Gustafson is. Poor decision making, can not go through progressions, not accurate and can not read a defense. Sorry, but he is nowhere near the QB Wentz is.

John Crockett is not NDSU's all time leading rusher. He was probably the best running back this preseason for the Packers but is on IR right now with a shoulder injury. Was an undrafted free agent that made their roster. How has he failed miserably? Most undrafted free agents do not make active rosters. Marcus Williams starts for the Jets and was 5th in the NFL last year with 6 picks. Not too shabby. Been some really good NFL players through the years from NDSU. Steve Nelson went to multiple pro bowls, was on the 1st team all pro team one year, and is in the Patriots ring of honor. Phil Hansen started in 3 Super Bowls for the Bills and is in their ring of honor. Tyrone Braxton went to pro bowl with the Broncos and won two super bowl rings.
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Alumni, it's a trap!!! Swim the other way!!
 
Gus was the best QB on the field that day, and it really wasn't close. Deny it if you wish, undsuers, but you know it's true.
 
EverettGriz said:
Gus was the best QB on the field that day, and it really wasn't close. Deny it if you wish, undsuers, but you know it's true.
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Disagree. He passed 55 times. Wentz passed the ball 28 times. The style of offense Wentz ran was completely different than Gus. Gus put up a ton of balls in that game which should have been picked off. He was fortunate and also was bailed out by his receivers.

In any case, it is irrelevant. One smoke filled exhibition game doesn't make you a first round draft pick QB. You have to look at the body of work. Gus is a tall strong armed QB playing in the FCS like Wentz did. After that the similarities stop. Gus can't read defenses and folded badly when playing against TOP end defenses. He's going to put up a lot of stats playing in Bobs Titt offense, which won't translate at all to being an NFL QB.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
EverettGriz said:
Gus was the best QB on the field that day, and it really wasn't close. Deny it if you wish, undsuers, but you know it's true.
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Disagree. He passed 55 times. Wentz passed the ball 28 times. The style of offense Wentz ran was completely different than Gus. Gus put up a ton of balls in that game which should have been picked off. He was fortunate and also was bailed out by his receivers.

In any case, it is irrelevant. One smoke filled exhibition game doesn't make you a first round draft pick QB. You have to look at the body of work. Gus is a tall strong armed QB playing in the FCS like Wentz did. After that the similarities stop. Gus can't read defenses and folded badly when playing against TOP end defenses. He's going to put up a lot of stats playing in Bobs Titt offense, which won't translate at all to being an NFL QB.
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Since you're playing that game, Wentz threw a lot of balls that should have been dropped so they are even.

And no, BG is no CW and no amount of wishing will change that.
 
Brock Landers said:
This is a stupid thread and can only succeed in making us look stupid

Lets please not compare Gus and Wentz ever again.
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I am not sure how this thread made it past a couple posts let alone multiple pages.
 
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