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Indoor Practice Facility Grand Opening

(Deep Breath)… 1st off, UM's new facility is very nice. I like the way it fits into the campus and will be used by more than just the football team. It will be a huge benefit to the University. Now let's go through what you said...
1) My guess is that you are saying the MSU did something "Shady" to raise the funds for their IPF. I don't see any evidence of that
2) The 80 yards was because there is an indoor track around the field. I am cool with that. Don't really want to get into a yard measuring contest.
3) Washington Grizzly Stadium is great, but the issue is, it can't expand at all. Yes, you can add more seats, but the "Guts" of the stadium are what they are. The GFP has talked about this a bit in the past on their show.
4) I have never been in the Adams Center since they remodeled, so can't speak to it. But I will say it is designed more like a Basketball arena than The Brick is.
5) I think both the "Champion Center" and the BAC are amazing. I don't see one being better than the other.
6) Both the "Champion Center" and the BAC have amazing locker rooms and Recovery centers, so again I don't see one being better than the other.
7) Here is where I can agree with you again.. I am not a fan of the stadium being 4 blocks from Campus. I wish it was in the South Parking lot area of The Brick. MSU is very spread out right now, but I THINK some of that is to do with the fact that they didn't plan to double in size over 20 years. I also don't know if anyone REALLY thought we would have 20K people at games all the time.

Overall, I don't know what will happen to both schools in the next 10-15 years. But I love the fact that both have set themselves ahead of not only their conferences, but ahead of their level (In football). It is an exiting time to be a Griz or a Bobcat... Now you can roast away at me!!!
Good post. A few nits:

1. Why didn't they just build the IPF 20 yards longer. No clue where it is, but it looks like the middle of a field of nothing. Just build it a bit longer?;

2. If not a basketball arena, for what was the MSU fieldhouse designed?; and

3. I disagree with anyone who says WaGriz can't be expanded at all. The SEZ could look like the NEZ, and the west sideline could look like the east. If need be, of course. Need probably never will be, but it's been executed in the past.
 
Good post. A few nits:

1. Why didn't they just build the IPF 20 yards longer. No clue where it is, but it looks like the middle of a field of nothing. Just build it a bit longer?;

2. If not a basketball arena, for what was the MSU fieldhouse designed?; and

3. I disagree with anyone who says WaGriz can't be expanded at all. The SEZ could look like the NEZ, and the west sideline could look like the east. If need be, of course. Need probably never will be, but it's been executed in the past.
1. Regulation size indoor tracks are only 300 meters as opposed to standard 400m outdoor tracks. If you want to have a competition track (which I think is their intention), then you have to shrink the size of the football field to have a regulation size track.

2. It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do with the Brick. Maybe they intend to take out the track and make it more Basketball friendly?

3. Haslam said on a podcast once that if they were going to do another round of expansion to the stadium, they would build a carbon copy of the upper east side and build that on the west side. He mentioned that there is a lot of demand for hospitality and premium seating to the point where they have to turn people away. So they would build that, and then build a new press box on top of that. I would imagine that would likely be the next big project for the AD
 
1. Regulation size indoor tracks are only 300 meters as opposed to standard 400m outdoor tracks. If you want to have a competition track (which I think is their intention), then you have to shrink the size of the football field to have a regulation size track.

2. It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do with the Brick. Maybe they intend to take out the track and make it more Basketball friendly?

3. Haslam said on a podcast once that if they were going to do another round of expansion to the stadium, they would build a carbon copy of the upper east side and build that on the west side. He mentioned that there is a lot of demand for hospitality and premium seating to the point where they have to turn people away. So they would build that, and then build a new press box on top of that. I would imagine that would likely be the next big project for the AD
#1 Makes perfect sense. Thanks.

Agree with the rest.
 
1. Regulation size indoor tracks are only 300 meters as opposed to standard 400m outdoor tracks. If you want to have a competition track (which I think is their intention), then you have to shrink the size of the football field to have a regulation size track.

2. It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do with the Brick. Maybe they intend to take out the track and make it more Basketball friendly?

3. Haslam said on a podcast once that if they were going to do another round of expansion to the stadium, they would build a carbon copy of the upper east side and build that on the west side. He mentioned that there is a lot of demand for hospitality and premium seating to the point where they have to turn people away. So they would build that, and then build a new press box on top of that. I would imagine that would likely be the next big project for the AD
Yep this is spot on. Track needs played a huge part in how they built the facility. Which worked better because now it is right next to the stadium between parking and the outdoor track.

I'd love to see the fieldhouse be more hoops friendly. But when they built it nearly 70 years ago they had different ideas. But I would love wrap-a-round seating closer to the court similar to Weber if I had a wish.
 
Good post. A few nits:

1. Why didn't they just build the IPF 20 yards longer. No clue where it is, but it looks like the middle of a field of nothing. Just build it a bit longer?;

2. If not a basketball arena, for what was the MSU fieldhouse designed?; and

3. I disagree with anyone who says WaGriz can't be expanded at all. The SEZ could look like the NEZ, and the west sideline could look like the east. If need be, of course. Need probably never will be, but it's been executed in the past.
1) They made it that long to fit a regulation indoor track around it. If it was 120 instead of 100 yards long (giving you 100 field and endzones) it would be too long for the track.

2) The "rumor" is (and I am opening up a LOT of jokes here..) that they were originally building The Brick to be both Football and Basketball... But after it was built, they decided against it. Back in the 60's and 70's they used it as indoor practice space during the winter for football. It is actually the reason that Jan Stenerud ended up playing football instead of his skiing scholarship (I can tell you that story if you like)

3) I am not saying you can't add seats. You can (as I stated in my original post) but I have b3en told that it would be very hard to add the bathrooms, concessions, ticket areas needed to accommodate those extra seats in the cement stadium. I would love for both teams to have 40,000 seat stadiums. But peeing your pants while you wait is a hard sell.
 
1) They made it that long to fit a regulation indoor track around it. If it was 120 instead of 100 yards long (giving you 100 field and endzones) it would be too long for the track.

2) The "rumor" is (and I am opening up a LOT of jokes here..) that they were originally building The Brick to be both Football and Basketball... But after it was built, they decided against it. Back in the 60's and 70's they used it as indoor practice space during the winter for football. It is actually the reason that Jan Stenerud ended up playing football instead of his skiing scholarship (I can tell you that story if you like)

3) I am not saying you can't add seats. You can (as I stated in my original post) but I have b3en told that it would be very hard to add the bathrooms, concessions, ticket areas needed to accommodate those extra seats in the cement stadium. I would love for both teams to have 40,000 seat stadiums. But peeing your pants while you wait is a hard sell.
Not a concern, we will just add port-a-potties with players faces all around the stadium 😉
 
1) They made it that long to fit a regulation indoor track around it. If it was 120 instead of 100 yards long (giving you 100 field and endzones) it would be too long for the track.

2) The "rumor" is (and I am opening up a LOT of jokes here..) that they were originally building The Brick to be both Football and Basketball... But after it was built, they decided against it. Back in the 60's and 70's they used it as indoor practice space during the winter for football. It is actually the reason that Jan Stenerud ended up playing football instead of his skiing scholarship (I can tell you that story if you like)

3) I am not saying you can't add seats. You can (as I stated in my original post) but I have b3en told that it would be very hard to add the bathrooms, concessions, ticket areas needed to accommodate those extra seats in the cement stadium. I would love for both teams to have 40,000 seat stadiums. But peeing your pants while you wait is a hard sell.
I hear ya. GTID explained the track conundrum above. Makes sense. I've seen 80-yard practice fields before. UCLA has two right next to each other, albeit not indoors, and sans track.

As for the expansion (if it's ever needed), I'm not too worried about bathrooms. Just put a few more rows of porta-potties in fenced-in areas on each endzone or something. Remember when we couldn't have a beer garden because Bernie and Esther would lose their parking spots?
 
I don’t care if this thing was a stick hut with a straw roof as long as it gets the football team indoors out of the elements, warm and comfortable and not practicing on 3 inches of ice in the middle of a playoff run then I am all for it. When you add in the fact that our softball team our soccer team, our track teams and the community are going to tap into it. It’s even better. This thing will generate a lot of dollars off of the community rentals. That’s exactly how they are planning to use it. This will help them upgrade other facilities or pay for a permanent structure when the timing is right.
 
Sounds like The Griz have a completed indoor football facility while the bubcatz just started building an indoor track facility.
Congrats I guess. IDK, sounds stupid to me
 
Perhaps Elrod would have the awnser? On second thought probably not 🤣
I laughed because I know you aren't serious, you just troll. The answer has been plenty out there for anyone who has paid attention, including to discussion going on as far back as three years ago when it was before the BoR. You could check out those meetings and proposals, if you wanted to read the original. It has also been reported in newspapers. Here is one quote that I found pretty easily --

[Once finished, the indoor facility could support itself off of rental revenue and could even be a revenue generator as community groups lease it out, according to Haslam. UM has already signed leases, primarily with youth soccer teams, he added.
"We certainly lost some revenue last spring if we would have had it open, but we also didn't incur any costs of having it open," he said. "The interest in renting it, the leasing has been tremendous. This facility will not lack use. I think the demand is going to get so high that we'll live with this for a while. It may very well be that we don't deflate it because people are going to want to be in it so much." ]

There is also the revenue gained from being able to rent out WaGriz for concerts and have the practice space available, which could possibly be quite a bit at times.

It was paid for fully by donations. If all else failed, I'm pretty sure we would be fine on that front, too.

Lastly, an indoor practice facility is vital to competing at this point, and it is one of the only areas the Griz were behind other teams in terms of facilities. It was necessary, not just a "want." The Griz football team provides a huge amount of the revenue for the Griz sports teams, and will make even more the deeper we go in the playoffs, so some revenue there is also obviously a fair use of funds if necessary.

The part you are missing here is that Griz Athletics are a professional machine, and these plans and budgets go through multiple levels of approval from outside the University at the BoR and OCHE before they ever even begin to get off the ground.

There, I answered yours. Want to go back and get that detailed and answer any of mine back to you? ;)
 
I laughed because I know you aren't serious, you just troll. The answer has been plenty out there for anyone who has paid attention, including to discussion going on as far back as three years ago when it was before the BoR. You could check out those meetings and proposals, if you wanted to read the original. It has also been reported in newspapers. Here is one quote that I found pretty easily --

[Once finished, the indoor facility could support itself off of rental revenue and could even be a revenue generator as community groups lease it out, according to Haslam. UM has already signed leases, primarily with youth soccer teams, he added.
"We certainly lost some revenue last spring if we would have had it open, but we also didn't incur any costs of having it open," he said. "The interest in renting it, the leasing has been tremendous. This facility will not lack use. I think the demand is going to get so high that we'll live with this for a while. It may very well be that we don't deflate it because people are going to want to be in it so much." ]

There is also the revenue gained from being able to rent out WaGriz for concerts and have the practice space available, which could possibly be quite a bit at times.

It was paid for fully by donations. If all else failed, I'm pretty sure we would be fine on that front, too.

Lastly, an indoor practice facility is vital to competing at this point, and it is one of the only areas the Griz were behind other teams in terms of facilities. It was necessary, not just a "want." The Griz football team provides a huge amount of the revenue for the Griz sports teams, and will make even more the deeper we go in the playoffs, so some revenue there is also obviously a fair use of funds if necessary.

The part you are missing here is that Griz Athletics are a professional machine, and these plans and budgets go through multiple levels of approval from outside the University at the BoR and OCHE before they ever even begin to get off the ground.

There, I answered yours. Want to go back and get that detailed and answer any of mine back to you? ;)
You just copied shit you read somewhere.What are the real answers ? What you copied is just smoke and mirrors ,not the real answer. Why? Because they do not know.
 
Having moved as a kid from Billings to Anoka and Fridley, Minnesota, suburbs of Minneapolis, my only concern for our new IPF is the bubble roof's durability, i.e. all the problems Minneapolis had with the Metrodome and it's inflatable roof, which was prone to collapse under the weight of heavy snow, collapsing on 5 different occasions, and although the Metrodome today would be only 42 years old, it was torn down after only about 30 years of service in 2013. My Vikings had to play at the other UM's football stadium--The University of Minnesota--in 2014 and 15 until their new US Bank Stadium opened in 2016.

I hope and assume the design and engineering of our new UM IPF roof has better design, engineering and durability than the Metrodome did, 1980-82 design and engineering for the Metrodome vs. 2023-24 design and engineering for The GRIZ IPF !!!
 
Having moved as a kid from Billings to Anoka and Fridley, Minnesota, suburbs of Minneapolis, my only concern for our new IPF is the bubble roof's durability, i.e. all the problems Minneapolis had with the Metrodome and it's inflatable roof, which was prone to collapse under the weight of heavy snow, collapsing on 5 different occasions, and although the Metrodome today would be only 42 years old, it was torn down after only about 30 years of service in 2013. My Vikings had to play at the other UM's football stadium--The University of Minnesota--in 2014 and 15 until their new US Bank Stadium opened in 2016.

I hope and assume the design and engineering of our new UM IPF roof has better design, engineering and durability than the Metrodome did, 1980-82 design and engineering for the Metrodome vs. 2023-24 design and engineering for The GRIZ IPF !!!
Maybe it has the ability to shake like a dog after it snows. Woof!
 
1. Regulation size indoor tracks are only 300 meters as opposed to standard 400m outdoor tracks. If you want to have a competition track (which I think is their intention), then you have to shrink the size of the football field to have a regulation size track.

2. It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do with the Brick. Maybe they intend to take out the track and make it more Basketball friendly?

3. Haslam said on a podcast once that if they were going to do another round of expansion to the stadium, they would build a carbon copy of the upper east side and build that on the west side. He mentioned that there is a lot of demand for hospitality and premium seating to the point where they have to turn people away. So they would build that, and then build a new press box on top of that. I would imagine that would likely be the next big project for the AD
Standard indoor tracks are 200m, since 1993 all USA indoor track championships have been run on 200m tracks. Spokane built a 53 million dollar world class facility in 2021 (known as The Podium) which features a 6 lane 200m track. The USA indoor TF championships were held At the Podium in 2022.
 
1) They made it that long to fit a regulation indoor track around it. If it was 120 instead of 100 yards long (giving you 100 field and endzones) it would be too long for the track.

2) The "rumor" is (and I am opening up a LOT of jokes here..) that they were originally building The Brick to be both Football and Basketball... But after it was built, they decided against it. Back in the 60's and 70's they used it as indoor practice space during the winter for football. It is actually the reason that Jan Stenerud ended up playing football instead of his skiing scholarship (I can tell you that story if you like)

3) I am not saying you can't add seats. You can (as I stated in my original post) but I have b3en told that it would be very hard to add the bathrooms, concessions, ticket areas needed to accommodate those extra seats in the cement stadium. I would love for both teams to have 40,000 seat stadiums. But peeing your pants while you wait is a hard sell.
Speaking of rumor, back in August I spoke with someone at the U who asked me if I’d heard anything about stadium expansion plans. I’m certain the dollar figure mentioned in this conversation would easily cover additional seats, luxury suites, upgraded press box, bathrooms and concessions. Guess we’ll have to sit back and wait to see if it happens.
 
Speaking of rumor, back in August I spoke with someone at the U who asked me if I’d heard anything about stadium expansion plans. I’m certain the dollar figure mentioned in this conversation would easily cover additional seats, luxury suites, upgraded press box, bathrooms and concessions. Guess we’ll have to sit back and wait to see if it happens.
And if you think traffic and parking are nightmares now............
 
You just copied shit you read somewhere.What are the real answers ? What you copied is just smoke and mirrors ,not the real answer. Why? Because they do not know.
The only part I copied was the part within the brackets. I gave you the real answer, as well as additional resources you could go look at. I quite literally answer your question with where the revenue will be coming from. I suppose we could also tap the donor network, but going to donors for maintenance costs isn't as popular as a new build, so I find that unlikely.

I'm sorry that you are so disconnected from the town and the University that you have not been paying attention to these conversations over the last few years, but that doesn't make me wrong.
 
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