I'll say it

[Dont Kick 2 Bergen]

Every official I have spoken too says 2 feet when a receiver goes out on his own, one foot when forced.

Exactly and he was forced out.

 

[get'em_griz]

Exactly and he was forced out.

Based on the rule I'm seeing, it doesn't matter if he was forced out. It was still an illegal catch. Would have been legal had someone else tipped the ball before he caught it.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

A player who steps out on their own can not return to the field for that play regardless of how many feet they get in. The re-establishment rules only apply to a player who is forced out. That is true for both NCAA and NFL.

You are correct. The rule Everett posted though is from the NFL, the NCAA doesn't have the same rule for a player forced out. It is the rule posted previously and there is no stipulation that 2 feet are required.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Based on the rule I'm seeing, it doesn't matter if he was forced out. It was still an illegal catch. Would have been legal had someone else tipped the ball before he caught it.

That is the NFL rule. The NCAA rulebook doesn't have a similar rule.

 

[get'em_griz]

That is the NFL rule. The NCAA rulebook doesn't have a similar rule.

So where is the actual NCAA rule on this type of scenario?

 

[Dont Kick 2 Bergen]

In the NCAA rule book that the refs used on Saturday to get the call correct.

 

[get'em_griz]

In the NCAA rule book that the refs used on Saturday to get the call correct.

You're not much for actually posting anything of value, are you? I've tried finding the rule specifically for the NCAA but I've not found it. So if you'd like to provide some actual value instead of platitudes, please do so by posting a direct link.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

So where is the actual NCAA rule on this type of scenario?

It is posted on the first page of the thread

 

[The.Real.2506]

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

It is posted on the first page of the thread

All that section says is that the receiver must reestablish himself in bounds. It does not say what constitutes reestablishing, which is the whole point of this entire discussion. Good grief. If I didn't know better, I would swear that English was a second language for some of you. I keep asking for the actual rule that dictates what constitutes reestablishing from the NCAA. But no one can or will provide it.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

So, can we start running patterns out of bounds, like behind the players on the sideline, and then re-emerge with one foot in bounds? Oh, or what about running out of the back of the end zone and button hooking back in? Help me out, rules folks!

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

All that section says is that the receiver must reestablish himself in bounds. It does not say what constitutes reestablishing, which is the whole point of this entire discussion. Good grief. If I didn't know better, I would swear that English was a second language for some of you. I keep asking for the actual rule that dictates what constitutes reestablishing from the NCAA. But no one can or will provide it.

You can look and look but you will find no specific rule or definition. Based on that, there is no requirement of two feet. If you default to what constitutes a legal catch, it is one foot.

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

You can look and look but you will find no specific rule or definition. Based on that, there is no requirement of two feet

If that is indeed true, then I will concede that I was wrong. But I will also state that if that's true, the rule is FAR too subjective and needs to be changed. How can there be no actual conditions for what immediately reestablishing oneself even means? Different officials can call that very different ways, and the Big Sky currently has far too much subjectivity from their officials as it is.

 

[EverettGriz]

Every official I have spoken too says 2 feet when a receiver goes out on his own, one foot when forced.

You must know a number of bsc officials.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

If that is indeed true, then I will concede that I was wrong. But I will also state that if that's true, the rule is FAR too subjective and needs to be changed. How can there be no actual conditions for what immediately reestablishing oneself even means? Different officials can call that very different ways, and the Big Sky currently has far too much subjectivity from their officials as it is.

I think it defaults to match the catch rule of one foot

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

You must know a number of bsc officials.

I know a few, but admit that I miss understand our texts slightly on what they were referencing about 2 feet.

 

[EverettGriz]

You can look and look but you will find no specific rule or definition. Based on that, there is no requirement of two feet. If you default to what constitutes a legal catch, it is one foot.

Your logic makes zero sense. If a player touches a ball with one foot in bounds and one foot out of bounds, are they ruled in or out? Of course they're ruled out. 100 percent of the time. So it would be absolutely insane for the rule to stand as you suggest.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Your logic makes zero sense. If a player touches a ball with one foot in bounds and one foot out of bounds, are they ruled in or out? Of course they're ruled out. 100 percent of the time. So it would be absolutely insane for the rule to stand as you suggest.

He didn't touch the ball with a foot OB

 

[granitegriz]

The replay is so obvious, it is not even debatable. EG and Mtgriz are right on! I have said it often that the Griz need to get out of the BSC. Need to form a new conference. MSU will follow and EWU, etc.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Forget all the one foot vs two feet talk…..

As the rule is written, receiver must IMMEDIATELY return to the field of play. Watch the video, the receiver literally takes 7 steps after being pushed OOB….all 7 of those steps were OB. That’s about 7-8 yards OOB. That is literally the furthest thing from returning immediately. They blew it.