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[uptopgriz]

That would be the classiest thing Bozeman State could do in light of all of its recent scandals. Coach Ron Ash would get that program back on track in a quick hurry.

Better yet, bring back Earle Solomonson.

Bobby may well be our Earle Solomonson.

 

[kemajic]

Better yet, bring back Earle Solomonson.

Bobby may well be our Earle Solomonson.

Was Earle in the neighborhood of 116-34, 67-18 BSC, with 7 BSC championships and 3 NC appearances? I was out of state at Earle's time and wasn't paying attention. I do recall the impressive Hysell era. And at MSU, a DII record of 47-27 gets a statue.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Bobby may well be our Earle Solomonson.

Was Earle in the neighborhood of 116-34, 67-18 BSC, with 7 BSC championships and 3 NC appearances? I was out of state at Earle's time and wasn't paying attention. I do recall the impressive Hysell era. And at MSU, a DII record of 47-27 gets a statue.

I’m sorry, but hanging your hat on what Bobby did 13 fucking years ago is about as lame of an argument as one can make.

 

[kemajic]

Was Earle in the neighborhood of 116-34, 67-18 BSC, with 7 BSC championships and 3 NC appearances? I was out of state at Earle's time and wasn't paying attention. I do recall the impressive Hysell era. And at MSU, a DII record of 47-27 gets a statue.

I’m sorry, but hanging your hat on what Bobby did 13 f###[#] years ago is about as lame of an argument as one can make.

The period is '03 - '22 and ongoing, and those are not arguments, they're facts and an impressive record.

 

[Phat Cat]

I’m sorry, but hanging your hat on what Bobby did 13 f###[#] years ago is about as lame of an argument as one can make.

The period is '03 - '22 and ongoing, and those are not arguments, they're facts and an impressive record.

Kind of like back in the day, when you got laid? Lol...... the last years of your life, loving Bobby. That will not serve you well. But, worms don't care.

 

[SaskGriz]

Why is this thread on here?

 

[RoseyMustGo]

I’m sorry, but hanging your hat on what Bobby did 13 f###[#] years ago is about as lame of an argument as one can make.

The period is '03 - '22 and ongoing, and those are not arguments, they're facts and an impressive record.

Kem is getting more desperate lately trying to defend Bobby Hauck's coaching. You can just feel the desperation setting-in, as he scrambles to cherry-pick some ancient numbers to counteract the current 5 years of futility in Hauck 2.0.

Hey Kem, do you and mthoopsfan collaborate before posting, to increase the effort?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

The period is '03 - '22 and ongoing, and those are not arguments, they're facts and an impressive record.

Kind of like back in the day, when you got laid? Lol...... the last years of your life, loving Bobby. That will not serve you well. But, worms don't care.

There’s that classy Bobcat fan base we all know. Man, you guys really are all the same.

 

[Griz Addict]

The period is '03 - '22 and ongoing, and those are not arguments, they're facts and an impressive record.

Kem is getting more desperate lately trying to defend Bobby Hauck's coaching. You can just feel the desperation setting-in, as he scrambles to cherry-pick some ancient numbers to counteract the current 5 years of futility in Hauck 2.0.

Hey Kem, do you and mthoopsfan collaborate before posting, to increase the effort?

Bobby is 34-17 Conf 20-12 since being back. And his first year back was the worst of those numbers. That's pretty damn good if you ask anyone in their right mind.

 

[ilovethecats]

Kind of like back in the day, when you got laid? Lol...... the last years of your life, loving Bobby. That will not serve you well. But, worms don't care.

There’s that classy Bobcat fan base we all know. Man, you guys really are all the same.

Whoa. :bad:

 

[uptopgriz]

Kem is getting more desperate lately trying to defend Bobby Hauck's coaching. You can just feel the desperation setting-in, as he scrambles to cherry-pick some ancient numbers to counteract the current 5 years of futility in Hauck 2.0.

Hey Kem, do you and mthoopsfan collaborate before posting, to increase the effort?

Bobby is 34-17 Conf 20-12 since being back. And his first year back was the worst of those numbers. That's pretty damn good if you ask anyone in their right mind.

I think that looks good on paper. How many of those wins are against teams with a winning record? He won 8 games this year and only one was against a team with a winning record.

 

[Griz Addict]

Bobby is 34-17 Conf 20-12 since being back. And his first year back was the worst of those numbers. That's pretty damn good if you ask anyone in their right mind.

I think that looks good on paper. How many of those wins are against teams with a winning record? He won 8 games this year and only one was against a team with a winning record.

If you wanna go do that research, go for it. I was going to but, some schools websites are shit. But, considering Bobby went 10-3 in 2021(6-2 conf) also defeated at the time #3 ranked Bobcats and defeated a top ranked EWU, I'd say he's beat more than a few winning teams. In 2019 he went 10-4 and 6-2 in conf which was 2nd in the conf as well.

Your guys' problem is acting like this year was his only year(still a winning record, still went to the playoffs and beat a winning team, that was a conf champion)

Bobby has done great here. Other than the first year of rebuilding and this year was a step back. Happens to every team in the country except, NDSU.

 

[uptopgriz]

I think that looks good on paper. How many of those wins are against teams with a winning record? He won 8 games this year and only one was against a team with a winning record.

If you wanna go do that research, go for it. I was going to but, some schools websites are shit. But, considering Bobby went 10-3 in 2021(6-2 conf) also defeated at the time #3 ranked Bobcats and defeated a top ranked EWU, I'd say he's beat more than a few winning teams. In 2019 he went 10-4 and 6-2 in conf which was 2nd in the conf as well.

Your guys' problem is acting like this year was his only year(still a winning record, still went to the playoffs and beat a winning team, that was a conf champion)

Bobby has done great here. Other than the first year of rebuilding and this year was a step back. Happens to every team in the country except, NDSU.

Your point would have credibility if there was sustained playoff success which there isn't.

 

[Lord Vigo]

I think that looks good on paper. How many of those wins are against teams with a winning record? He won 8 games this year and only one was against a team with a winning record.

If you wanna go do that research, go for it. I was going to but, some schools websites are shit. But, considering Bobby went 10-3 in 2021(6-2 conf) also defeated at the time #3 ranked Bobcats and defeated a top ranked EWU, I'd say he's beat more than a few winning teams. In 2019 he went 10-4 and 6-2 in conf which was 2nd in the conf as well.

Your guys' problem is acting like this year was his only year(still a winning record, still went to the playoffs and beat a winning team, that was a conf champion)

Bobby has done great here. Other than the first year of rebuilding and this year was a step back. Happens to every team in the country except, NDSU.

This post is purely informational (i.e. I'm not entering the argument regarding Bobby). I got curious. BSC only because that's way easier to pull together quickly (including the UND game even though they were technically out of the BSC by then):

Hauck's Grizzlies have played 32 conference games since his return.

Overall, he is 20-12 in conference play.

Against teams that finished that respective season with a losing record, he is 17-1.

Against teams that finishes that respective season .500 or better, he is 3-11.

 

[Lord Vigo]

As a Cat fan, losing Ifanse stinks. He's a great player and super fun to watch.

However, Griz fans hoping this has a significant negative impact on the offense are bound for disappointment.

The running back position is not the driver of success in the MSU offense-- it's the combination of the QB's and the blocking.

Plus, the Cats have a deep group at RB even without Ifanse, especially if Kaegun Williams plays in 2023.

MSU averaged 312 YPG and 6.5 YPC on the ground in 2022 without Ifanse taking a single snap in the regular season.

 

[Lord Vigo]

If you wanna go do that research, go for it. I was going to but, some schools websites are shit. But, considering Bobby went 10-3 in 2021(6-2 conf) also defeated at the time #3 ranked Bobcats and defeated a top ranked EWU, I'd say he's beat more than a few winning teams. In 2019 he went 10-4 and 6-2 in conf which was 2nd in the conf as well.

Your guys' problem is acting like this year was his only year(still a winning record, still went to the playoffs and beat a winning team, that was a conf champion)

Bobby has done great here. Other than the first year of rebuilding and this year was a step back. Happens to every team in the country except, NDSU.

This post is purely informational (i.e. I'm not entering the argument regarding Bobby). I got curious. BSC only because that's way easier to pull together quickly (including the UND game even though they were technically out of the BSC by then):

Hauck's Grizzlies have played 32 conference games since his return.

Overall, he is 20-12 in conference play.

Against teams that finished that respective season with a losing record, he is 17-1.

Against teams that finishes that respective season .500 or better, he is 3-11.

Since I imagine someone may ask, MSU over the same span:

26-6 overall
19-1 against teams with losing records
7-5 against teams .500 or better

Caveat being that the time frame begins in year 3 of Choate's rebuild.

 

[uptopgriz]

As a Cat fan, losing Ifanse stinks. He's a great player and super fun to watch.

However, Griz fans hoping this has a significant negative impact on the offense are bound for disappointment.

The running back position is not the driver of success in the MSU offense-- it's the combination of the QB's and the blocking.

Plus, the Cats have a deep group at RB even without Ifanse, especially if Kaegun Williams plays in 2023.

MSU averaged 312 YPG and 6.5 YPC on the ground in 2022 without Ifanse taking a single snap in the regular season.

The offense isn't sustainable. Chambers lasted one drive in the playoffs and missed most of the season. Mellott suffered two concussions during the year. He's one away from being done playing altogether.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

There’s that classy Bobcat fan base we all know. Man, you guys really are all the same.

Whoa. :bad:

Well, not you.

 

[Lord Vigo]

As a Cat fan, losing Ifanse stinks. He's a great player and super fun to watch.

However, Griz fans hoping this has a significant negative impact on the offense are bound for disappointment.

The running back position is not the driver of success in the MSU offense-- it's the combination of the QB's and the blocking.

Plus, the Cats have a deep group at RB even without Ifanse, especially if Kaegun Williams plays in 2023.

MSU averaged 312 YPG and 6.5 YPC on the ground in 2022 without Ifanse taking a single snap in the regular season.

The offense isn't sustainable. Chambers lasted one drive in the playoffs and missed most of the season. Mellott suffered two concussions during the year. He's one away from being done playing altogether.

That is wishful thinking.

In 2022, the Cats rushing offense lost:

Mellott for 3 games
Chambers for 3 games
Ifanse for the entire regular season
Kaegun Williams for the entire regular season
Lane Sumner for 7 games
RT Marcus Wehr for the majority of the season

They still average over 300 yards rushing per game, 6.5 YPC, 43 ppg.

Their offense returns every single starter and significant role player from the 2022 regular season minus Willie Patterson and Ravi Alston.

So the argument that the offense isn't sustainable is frankly laughable. It sustained in the face of a ton of injuries in 2022. Just based on regression, they probably deal with fewer injuries in 2023. Because the offense doesn't lean too heavily on anyone. The leading rusher in the offense only had 167 carries and figures to have at least 8 players who deserve significant carries.

What's not sustainable is an offense that becomes non-functional when the starting QB tweaks his knee.

 

[bigsky33]

As a Cat fan, losing Ifanse stinks. He's a great player and super fun to watch.

However, Griz fans hoping this has a significant negative impact on the offense are bound for disappointment.

The running back position is not the driver of success in the MSU offense-- it's the combination of the QB's and the blocking.

Plus, the Cats have a deep group at RB even without Ifanse, especially if Kaegun Williams plays in 2023.

MSU averaged 312 YPG and 6.5 YPC on the ground in 2022 without Ifanse taking a single snap in the regular season.

The offense isn't sustainable. Chambers lasted one drive in the playoffs and missed most of the season. Mellott suffered two concussions during the year. He's one away from being done playing altogether.

That is what was said on here before last season. It was the Cats were going to be terrible last year as the offense is unsustainable and the talent they they lost in Andersen, Hardy, Kidd and McCutcheon. Also, because they lost almost all of their OL. How did that work out?