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Lord Vigo said:
uptopgriz said:
The offense isn't sustainable. Chambers lasted one drive in the playoffs and missed most of the season. Mellott suffered two concussions during the year. He's one away from being done playing altogether.

That is wishful thinking.

In 2022, the Cats rushing offense lost:

Mellott for 3 games
Chambers for 3 games
Ifanse for the entire regular season
Kaegun Williams for the entire regular season
Lane Sumner for 7 games
RT Marcus Wehr for the majority of the season

They still average over 300 yards rushing per game, 6.5 YPC, 43 ppg.

Their offense returns every single starter and significant role player from the 2022 regular season minus Willie Patterson and Ravi Alston.

So the argument that the offense isn't sustainable is frankly laughable. It sustained in the face of a ton of injuries in 2022. Just based on regression, they probably deal with fewer injuries in 2023. Because the offense doesn't lean too heavily on anyone. The leading rusher in the offense only had 167 carries and figures to have at least 8 players who deserve significant carries.

What's not sustainable is an offense that becomes non-functional when the starting QB tweaks his knee.

I never realized their strength and conditioning program was so poor. Looks like the most sustainable aspect of the program is go to Bozeman, suffer injuries.
 
Lord Vigo said:
uptopgriz said:
The offense isn't sustainable. Chambers lasted one drive in the playoffs and missed most of the season. Mellott suffered two concussions during the year. He's one away from being done playing altogether.

That is wishful thinking.

In 2022, the Cats rushing offense lost:

Mellott for 3 games
Chambers for 3 games
Ifanse for the entire regular season
Kaegun Williams for the entire regular season
Lane Sumner for 7 games
RT Marcus Wehr for the majority of the season

They still average over 300 yards rushing per game, 6.5 YPC, 43 ppg.

Their offense returns every single starter and significant role player from the 2022 regular season minus Willie Patterson and Ravi Alston.

So the argument that the offense isn't sustainable is frankly laughable. It sustained in the face of a ton of injuries in 2022. Just based on regression, they probably deal with fewer injuries in 2023. Because the offense doesn't lean too heavily on anyone. The leading rusher in the offense only had 167 carries and figures to have at least 8 players who deserve significant carries.

What's not sustainable is an offense that becomes non-functional when the starting QB tweaks his knee.

Not sustainable. The Cat's complied those stats playing at home. They strggeled on the road against weak teams and were pounded by South Dakota State. If there would have been another quarter to that game the Jackrabbits would have sent your third QB to the lockerroom too. Neither Chambers or Mellott would have been cleared to play the next week.
 
uptopgriz said:
Lord Vigo said:
That is wishful thinking.

In 2022, the Cats rushing offense lost:

Mellott for 3 games
Chambers for 3 games
Ifanse for the entire regular season
Kaegun Williams for the entire regular season
Lane Sumner for 7 games
RT Marcus Wehr for the majority of the season

They still average over 300 yards rushing per game, 6.5 YPC, 43 ppg.

Their offense returns every single starter and significant role player from the 2022 regular season minus Willie Patterson and Ravi Alston.

So the argument that the offense isn't sustainable is frankly laughable. It sustained in the face of a ton of injuries in 2022. Just based on regression, they probably deal with fewer injuries in 2023. Because the offense doesn't lean too heavily on anyone. The leading rusher in the offense only had 167 carries and figures to have at least 8 players who deserve significant carries.

What's not sustainable is an offense that becomes non-functional when the starting QB tweaks his knee.

Not sustainable. The Cat's complied those stats playing at home. They strggeled on the road against weak teams and were pounded by South Dakota State. If there would have been another quarter to that game the Jackrabbits would have sent your third QB to the lockerroom too. Neither Chambers or Mellott would have been cleared to play the next week.

But they won those games on the road. You don't know what the actual injury severity was in the SDSU game to Chambers and Mellott. The prediction on here that it is not sustainable is the same as prior to last year. And, as Lord Vigo has clearly pointed out it sustained fine this past season. With the depth that the Cats have returning, it will be another good year in 2023.
 
Bobcats definitely played a lot worse on the road this year. Which it happens some years. There was a good period where we played like ass on the road. It happens to everyone at some point. However, if Chambers and Mellott go down and miss games together, they are fucked. That offense relies on them, heavily. Luckily they seemed to avoid getting injured at the same time until SDSU. That program doesn't care if they kill their main source of contribution and that's scary for the player. Those kids are slowly killing their chances at an NFL career because of a win at all cost mentality. Don't be surprised when they have life long issues.
 
uptopgriz said:
Lord Vigo said:
That is wishful thinking.

In 2022, the Cats rushing offense lost:

Mellott for 3 games
Chambers for 3 games
Ifanse for the entire regular season
Kaegun Williams for the entire regular season
Lane Sumner for 7 games
RT Marcus Wehr for the majority of the season

They still average over 300 yards rushing per game, 6.5 YPC, 43 ppg.

Their offense returns every single starter and significant role player from the 2022 regular season minus Willie Patterson and Ravi Alston.

So the argument that the offense isn't sustainable is frankly laughable. It sustained in the face of a ton of injuries in 2022. Just based on regression, they probably deal with fewer injuries in 2023. Because the offense doesn't lean too heavily on anyone. The leading rusher in the offense only had 167 carries and figures to have at least 8 players who deserve significant carries.

What's not sustainable is an offense that becomes non-functional when the starting QB tweaks his knee.

Not sustainable. The Cat's complied those stats playing at home. They strggeled on the road against weak teams and were pounded by South Dakota State. If there would have been another quarter to that game the Jackrabbits would have sent your third QB to the lockerroom too. Neither Chambers or Mellott would have been cleared to play the next week.

Incorrect. Again, wishful thinking-- here supported by revisionist history.

On the road in 2022, the Cats logged 208 rush attempts for 1420 yard, which comes out to 355 rush yards/game and 6.8 YPC.

If you want to criticize their defense for not being able to travel, that's a valid criticism. They didn't play well away from Bozeman. But the argument that their offense isn't sustainable because it just compiled stats at home is patently false. I suggest looking this stuff up first.
 
...don't know much about the cats...
...don't give a fcuk about the cats...
...did seem they ran the butte kid...
... ran him right into the blue tent...

... :shock: ...
 
Griz Addict said:
Bobcats definitely played a lot worse on the road this year. Which it happens some years. There was a good period where we played like ass on the road. It happens to everyone at some point. However, if Chambers and Mellott go down and miss games together, they are f###[#]. That offense relies on them, heavily. Luckily they seemed to avoid getting injured at the same time until SDSU. That program doesn't care if they kill their main source of contribution and that's scary for the player. Those kids are slowly killing their chances at an NFL career because of a win at all cost mentality. Don't be surprised when they have life long issues.

Mellott and Chambers weren't both hurt at the same time @SDSU until the very end of the game when the result was beyond question. They actually moved the ball well with QB3, Sean Austin (though that's irrelevant really-- it was garbage time). The problems in that game (beyond the obvious that the Jacks are just better than MSU this year) were that the Bobcat defense didn't play well away from home and Mellott couldn't run OZ because he couldn't find his footing on that frozen field. That's not an excuse; I'm not saying the Cats would have won with better field conditions; the SDSU offense could basically score at will that day. But it is a reason why the rushing offense fell apart.
 
kemajic said:
bigsky33 said:
He didn't get passed up in the depth chart this year. He was rehabbing and only came back the last couple of games after Doctors cleared him. He only has one more year of eligibility. I think he graduated this year. Not sure on that. He is most likely going to a FBS program where he has a better chance of getting and NFL look. The running backs room is still full for the Cats, including an incoming freshman from the Seattle area that is highly rated.
He had 7 touches in the SDSU blowout.
Not sure about your point here Kem. Cats only rushed 34 times in this game which is well below the average. At that, it was really just Tommy running for his life. I admit that was a total shit show in Brookings for the Cats, but I wouldn't read anything into Isaiah getting 7 carries.
 
Phat Cat said:
kemajic said:
The period is '03 - '22 and ongoing, and those are not arguments, they're facts and an impressive record.

Kind of like back in the day, when you got laid? Lol...... the last years of your life, loving Bobby. That will not serve you well. But, worms don't care.

What a vile thing to say. Don't post.
 
zengriz said:
...don't know much about the cats...
...don't give a fcuk about the cats...
...did seem they ran the butte kid...
... ran him right into the blue tent...

... :shock: ...
...just like the way they ran anderson...
...just like the way they ran Ifanse...
 
mthoopsfan said:
I already recommended him to my UW insider, who is already aware of him. Don't know what UW has for backs.

Wow.....wonder if anyone else at UW ever heard him since he was a star at Bellevue High? What a blowhard you are!
 
Mousegriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
I already recommended him to my UW insider, who is already aware of him. Don't know what UW has for backs.

Wow.....wonder if anyone else at UW ever heard him since he was a star at Bellevue High? What a blowhard you are!

My UW booster friend had 3 sons who were captains at Bellevue high and all played in college. I’ve watched scores of Bellevue games. Thx for your info. What an idiot you are.
 
Griz Addict said:
RoseyMustGo said:
Kem is getting more desperate lately trying to defend Bobby Hauck's coaching. You can just feel the desperation setting-in, as he scrambles to cherry-pick some ancient numbers to counteract the current 5 years of futility in Hauck 2.0.

Hey Kem, do you and mthoopsfan collaborate before posting, to increase the effort?

Bobby is 34-17 Conf 20-12 since being back. And his first year back was the worst of those numbers. That's pretty damn good if you ask anyone in their right mind.

Exactly 2 games better than Stitt. Who got run out of town on a rail in just 3 years for a very similar record. But some here want to put up a fucking statue to Hauck for what he did two decades ago.
 
RoseyMustGo said:
kemajic said:
The period is '03 - '22 and ongoing, and those are not arguments, they're facts and an impressive record.

Kem is getting more desperate lately trying to defend Bobby Hauck's coaching. You can just feel the desperation setting-in, as he scrambles to cherry-pick some ancient numbers to counteract the current 5 years of futility in Hauck 2.0.

Hey Kem, do you and mthoopsfan collaborate before posting, to increase the effort?
Certainly no desperation; I simply provided the whole data. Limiting data to favor your narrative is cherry picking, which you BH haters must keep doing in desperation for your hopeless agenda.

And most posters here paying attention recognize that PR and I have had many classic arguments.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Griz Addict said:
Bobby is 34-17 Conf 20-12 since being back. And his first year back was the worst of those numbers. That's pretty damn good if you ask anyone in their right mind.

Exactly 2 games better than Stitt. Who got run out of town on a rail in just 3 years for a very similar record. But some here want to put up a f###[#] statue to Hauck for what he did two decades ago.
Stitt also only played 5 ranked conference teams in his 3 years.

Bobby has played 12 in 4 years.
 
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