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If you had told me (us) ...

grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
About what....
Let it go. Being wrong is at one level, pretending ignorance is at another level.

So you are stating that I was wrong about Brady being the better QB option than Simis......and this was proved how by you.....
You are in full "twist" mode over that thread. You were wrong. That's it.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
About what....
Let it go. Being wrong is at one level, pretending ignorance is at another level.

So you are stating that I was wrong about Brady being the better QB option than Simis......and this was proved how by you.....
You are in full "twist" mode over that thread. You were wrong. That's it.

Wrong about what.....you can't even answer that....
 
grizindabox said:
Wrong about what.....you can't even answer that....
Since your premise is a lie, there's nothing to "answer." You don't have the credibility to ask the question.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Wrong about what.....you can't even answer that....
Since your premise is a lie, there's nothing to "answer." You don't have the credibility to ask the question.

My premise that Gus is a better QB option than Simis....how is that a lie....

You have used so many twisted stories in an attempt to prove your point that you don't even know what you are trying to argue anymore....
 
75, I am also wondering how this is factored into your "statistical" analysis...

What Griz receiver says: (Grizzly Sports Report, right after the SDSU game)

Reporter - "The offense has seen a lot of success in the past couple weeks. What is that attributed to, and just how much better are you guys getting week to week in this offense?"

Ellis Henderson - "I think we call it the Brady Effect. I think it's a term I coined a couple weeks ago. It's just having the confidence in him having him back there. I still think MaKenna is great, athletic QB. And Chad is great as well. But Brady just has this sense of confidence that you need within this offense to be able to call a play, audible-out. Just really have a calming effect, especially at the tempo we go. Having someone back there that you just feel good about is something that is I think under-appreciated a little bit."
 
Who besides me would appreciate a cage match, 75 vs dabox? Loser never posts again and eGriz uses 25% less electricity.
 
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Wrong about what.....you can't even answer that....
Since your premise is a lie, there's nothing to "answer." You don't have the credibility to ask the question.

My premise that Gus is a better QB option than Simis....how is that a lie....

You have used so many twisted stories in an attempt to prove your point that you don't even know what you are trying to argue anymore....
You offered your opinion on the value of "statistics" and I gave my opinion based on the reading of Brady's performance history, and made specific observations. You offered nothing credible to support your contentions on those points although you disputed them. Last Saturday you were proved wrong, and I was proved correct. We have no test for the other part of your claims. None. So, that's pretty much the ballgame for you. Go have some coffee, tame the ego, and give this one a well-deserved rest.
 
grizindabox said:
75, I am also wondering how this is factored into your "statistical" analysis...

What Griz receiver says: (Grizzly Sports Report, right after the SDSU game)

Reporter - "The offense has seen a lot of success in the past couple weeks. What is that attributed to, and just how much better are you guys getting week to week in this offense?"

Ellis Henderson - "I think we call it the Brady Effect. I think it's a term I coined a couple weeks ago. It's just having the confidence in him having him back there. I still think MaKenna is great, athletic QB. And Chad is great as well. But Brady just has this sense of confidence that you need within this offense to be able to call a play, audible-out. Just really have a calming effect, especially at the tempo we go. Having someone back there that you just feel good about is something that is I think under-appreciated a little bit."
Kind of laughable in hindsight, isn't it
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
Wrong about what.....you can't even answer that....
Since your premise is a lie, there's nothing to "answer." You don't have the credibility to ask the question.

My premise that Gus is a better QB option than Simis....how is that a lie....

You have used so many twisted stories in an attempt to prove your point that you don't even know what you are trying to argue anymore....
You offered your opinion on the value of "statistics" and I gave my opinion based on the reading of Brady's performance history, and made specific observations. You offered nothing credible to support your contentions on those points although you disputed them. Last Saturday you were proved wrong, and I was proved correct. We have no test for the other part of your claims. None. So, that's pretty much the ballgame for you. Go have some coffee, tame the ego, and give this one a well-deserved rest.

How did last Saturday prove me wrong.....I never said Brady was a great QB....or that Brady did not have weaknesses.....

How did last Saturday prove you were correct with your comparison between Brady and Simis......
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
75, I am also wondering how this is factored into your "statistical" analysis...

What Griz receiver says: (Grizzly Sports Report, right after the SDSU game)

Reporter - "The offense has seen a lot of success in the past couple weeks. What is that attributed to, and just how much better are you guys getting week to week in this offense?"

Ellis Henderson - "I think we call it the Brady Effect. I think it's a term I coined a couple weeks ago. It's just having the confidence in him having him back there. I still think MaKenna is great, athletic QB. And Chad is great as well. But Brady just has this sense of confidence that you need within this offense to be able to call a play, audible-out. Just really have a calming effect, especially at the tempo we go. Having someone back there that you just feel good about is something that is I think under-appreciated a little bit."
Kind of laughable in hindsight, isn't it

Kind of laughable that it can't be crunched into your statistical model, isn't it....
 
grizindabox said:
How did last Saturday prove you were correct with your comparison between Brady and Simis......
I offered specific criticisms that you said "don't count" for reasons dealing with game play analysis and the transcendent mysteries of football. Last Saturday tested my analysis and I was correct on each point I made. Since you contested those points, that makes you wrong, because we had a direct test of those points. That's how it works. That ball crossed the line. Score.

As you did on the "other" thread, you are just trolling now, trying to rewrite the conversation, in part by lying about what I said. It is just one of your dishonest tactics. Give it a rest.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
How did last Saturday prove you were correct with your comparison between Brady and Simis......
I offered specific criticisms that you said "don't count" for reasons dealing with game play analysis and the transcendent mysteries of football. Last Saturday tested my analysis and I was correct on each point I made. Since you contested those points, that makes you wrong, because we had a direct test of those points. That's how it works. That ball crossed the line. Score.

As you did on the "other" thread, you are just trolling now, trying to rewrite the conversation, in part by lying about what I said. It is just one of your dishonest tactics. Give it a rest.


Once again...not anywhere close to what I said....What I did say is that you can't evaluate a QB on stats alone....

Also, I never contested anything about the stats...hence no way I could have been wrong about them ....
 
And as it turned out, my "stats" had a very accurate predictive power, and your claims that they did not were falsified as dramatically as could be. On every specific point.

Case closed.

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UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
How did last Saturday prove you were correct with your comparison between Brady and Simis......
I offered specific criticisms that you said "don't count" for reasons dealing with game play analysis and the transcendent mysteries of football. Last Saturday tested my analysis and I was correct on each point I made. Since you contested those points, that makes you wrong, because we had a direct test of those points. That's how it works. That ball crossed the line. Score.

As you did on the "other" thread, you are just trolling now, trying to rewrite the conversation, in part by lying about what I said. It is just one of your dishonest tactics. Give it a rest.

Once again...not once did I say stats don't count.....

And the outcome on Saturday does nothing to prove that your analysis that Simis is the better option is correct...
 
UMGriz75 said:
And as it turned out, my "stats" had a very accurate predictive power, and your claims that they did not were falsified as dramatically as could be. On every specific point.

Case closed.

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What a tool....no one ever argued about the stats....are you really that dense....no one ever argued that Brady was a great QB....you are trying to argue an argument that no one ever made....
 
grizindabox said:
And the outcome on Saturday does nothing to prove that your analysis that Simis is the better option is correct...
Since I didn't say that, indeed, the exact opposite, I'm not going to waste any more time with your preferred narrative which happens to be a lie. But that's what you do when you lose, isn't it? Look around. You are missing a goat. Go get him.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
And the outcome on Saturday does nothing to prove that your analysis that Simis is the better option is correct...
Since I didn't say that, indeed, the exact opposite, I'm not going to waste any more time with your preferred narrative which happens to be a lie. But that's what you do when you lose, isn't it? Look around. You are missing a goat. Go get him.

So now you want to argue something that I did not ever disagree with....that Brady is a flawed QB....
 
So to recap:

After the ISU game

UM75 "Here are the stats that illustrate that Simis is the best option at QB" *Posts the stats from the UND game*

GIDB "The offense hasn't looked anything but mediocre apart from that one game. Have you seen his stats from the last two games?"

UM75 "Does not compute. The stats that I have conveniently picked and provided don't lie. Simis > Gus"

After the MSU game

UM75 "...."

Literally everyone except UM75 "Well, I guess that's that. Gus really is the best QB for this offense. He may not be perfect, but he's the best we have, and he does a pretty damn good job running it when he's on his game."

After the NDSU debacle

UM75 "I'm back, bitches. Looks like my cherry-picked stats proved that Gus is a terrible QB. I'm not going to outright say that I still think Simis is the better QB, but I'm going to hint at it quite strongly."

Everyone "Dude, seriously?"

GIDB "Really bro? You're just going to ignore the last 4 weeks and still claim Simis should be the guy?"

UM75 "I'm not saying that! *exaggerated wink* I'm just saying that you were wrong about stats in a vague, general sense and wrong about...other stuff...you're just wrong, Wrong John Silver. Case closed. The ball is in the outfield for a slam dunk. Neener Neener Neener."

Is that about right?
 
uofmman1122 said:
So to recap:

After the ISU game

UM75 "Here are the stats that illustrate that Simis is the best option at QB" *Posts the stats from the UND game*

GIDB "The offense hasn't looked anything but mediocre apart from that one game. Have you seen his stats from the last two games?"

UM75 "Does not compute. The stats that I have conveniently picked and provided don't lie. Simis > Gus"

After the MSU game

UM75 "...."

Literally everyone except UM75 "Well, I guess that's that. Gus really is the best QB for this offense. He may not be perfect, but he's the best we have, and he does a pretty damn good job running it when he's on his game."

After the NDSU debacle

UM75 "I'm back, bitches. Looks like my cherry-picked stats proved that Gus is a terrible QB. I'm not going to outright say that I still think Simis is the better QB, but I'm going to hint at it quite strongly."

Everyone "Dude, seriously?"

GIDB "Really bro? You're just going to ignore the last 4 weeks and still claim Simis should be the guy?"

UM75 "I'm not saying that! *exaggerated wink* I'm just saying that you were wrong about stats in a vague, general sense and wrong about...other stuff...you're just wrong, Wrong John Silver. Case closed. The ball is in the outfield for a slam dunk. Neener Neener Neener."

Is that about right?

pretty much sums it up....
 
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