If I were NDSU...

[1Griz_Fan]

You mean that KSU game where NDSU had 60 more yards of offense, 12 more minutes of TOP, had fewer turnovers (1 to 2) than KSU, had 8 more 3rd down conversions than KSU, more total first downs than KSU and fewer penalties AND did that playing in front of 58k KSU fans at their place? Ya you are right KSU should have won that game.

I watched two teams play that night. The better team won. Frankly it wasn't even close. Look above and the stats do not lie.

NDSU does one thing better than any FCS team. They line up and run the ball. Then they run it more. Then they run it and break your back. Wanna stack 8 in the box? Great we will run it more. If push comes to shove, we have a QB who by the way also threw 26 TD's this year and has won 4 FBS games and has won more FCS games than any QB.

I also remember that until that final drive that created the statistical difference to which you refer, NDSU was trailing as they had most of the game.

I was physically at that game. NDSU wad ahead 7-0 at the end of the first. KSU scored with about 10 left in the second and it was tied 7-7 at the end of the half. Back and fourth in the third and KSU had a 4 point lead after 3. Up until that final drive, yards were even, but NDSU still was leading that game everywhere else it counted but were down by 4. KSU scored two huge TD's on broken pass coverage. Besides that, NDSU physically controlled a BCS team on both sides of the ball, and eventually wore them down. Everyone at that game or with any insight into the game of football saw it that way.

The game of football is 4 quarters long. You have to play a game of football for 4 quarters. NDSU brings it for four quarters every single game. This is how we win games. Sometimes we win sluggfests 14-7. Sometimes we beat USD 40-0. Point is that we ALWAYS play 4 quarters of football and over the course of 3 full seasons and 2 playoff runs, have won 39 out of 41 games played and are 3-0 against FBS teams, 2 of which are from BCS conferences. You can say all the shoulda lost crap that you want.

I would hope you were actually at the game since "you" win games and "you" always play 4 quarters. "You" have a nice run going in the last three seasons...I vote for you as team mvp and mascot...so when is your eligibility up and when do you graduate? And are you thinking of going pro or maybe just sticking with playing for the Bison...

 

[kevraid]

Thing I dont like is at the beginning of next year N dakota st will have the revenge factor going for them when we play

 

[bison]

One time I remember the Grizz barely beating a shitty USD team, who despite being shitty, took the ball and ran it down your throats. Then I remember NDSU playing that exact same team and it being 35-0 with 14 minutes to go in the third.

Respect the hell out of the Grizz. Love your fans passion and support. Your stadium is the best in the FCS and you have an awesome tradition, but frankly that means jack squat right now. If this matchup happens you are playing in Fargo in an environment that is every bit if not more difficult to play in than Washington Grizzly. You are playing against the best defense in the FCS. The best coach in the FCS. The most winningest QB in FCS history, 2 1,000 yard running backs, and a team who is more physical, more athletic, and better disciplined than the Grizz. If NDSU implodes and has turnovers, Montana can easily win. If not, I am sorry but you are not going to win. Period.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

One time I remember the Grizz barely beating a shitty USD team, who despite being shitty, took the ball and ran it down your throats. Then I remember NDSU playing that exact same team and it being 35-0 with 14 minutes to go in the third.

Respect the hell out of the Grizz. Love your fans passion and support. Your stadium is the best in the FCS and you have an awesome tradition, but frankly that means jack squat right now. If this matchup happens you are playing in Fargo in an environment that is every bit if not more difficult to play in than Washington Grizzly. You are playing against the best defense in the FCS. The best coach in the FCS. The most winningest QB in FCS history, 2 1,000 yard running backs, and a team who is more physical, more athletic, and better disciplined than the Grizz. If NDSU implodes and has turnovers, Montana can easily win. If not, I am sorry but you are not going to win. Period.

Cat fan.

 

[bison]

You mean that KSU game where NDSU had 60 more yards of offense, 12 more minutes of TOP, had fewer turnovers (1 to 2) than KSU, had 8 more 3rd down conversions than KSU, more total first downs than KSU and fewer penalties AND did that playing in front of 58k KSU fans at their place? Ya you are right KSU should have won that game.

I watched two teams play that night. The better team won. Frankly it wasn't even close. Look above and the stats do not lie.

NDSU does one thing better than any FCS team. They line up and run the ball. Then they run it more. Then they run it and break your back. Wanna stack 8 in the box? Great we will run it more. If push comes to shove, we have a QB who by the way also threw 26 TD's this year and has won 4 FBS games and has won more FCS games than any QB.

I also remember that until that final drive that created the statistical difference to which you refer, NDSU was trailing as they had most of the game.

I was physically at that game. NDSU wad ahead 7-0 at the end of the first. KSU scored with about 10 left in the second and it was tied 7-7 at the end of the half. Back and fourth in the third and KSU had a 4 point lead after 3. Up until that final drive, yards were even, but NDSU still was leading that game everywhere else it counted but were down by 4. KSU scored two huge TD's on broken pass coverage. Besides that, NDSU physically controlled a BCS team on both sides of the ball, and eventually wore them down. Everyone at that game or with any insight into the game of football saw it that way.

The game of football is 4 quarters long. You have to play a game of football for 4 quarters. NDSU brings it for four quarters every single game. This is how we win games. Sometimes we win sluggfests 14-7. Sometimes we beat USD 40-0. Point is that we ALWAYS play 4 quarters of football and over the course of 3 full seasons and 2 playoff runs, have won 39 out of 41 games played and are 3-0 against FBS teams, 2 of which are from BCS conferences. You can say all the shoulda lost crap that you want.

I would hope you were actually at the game since "you" win games and "you" always play 4 quarters. "You" have a nice run going in the last three seasons...I vote for you as team mvp and mascot...so when is your eligibility up and when do you graduate? And are you thinking of going pro or maybe just sticking with playing for the Bison...

Trying to take and spin words is not going to change the outcome in a game against NDSU and Montana and how incredibly stupid this discussion is going to look when NDSU rolls Montana.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Trying to take and spin words is not going to change the outcome in a game against NDSU and Montana and how incredibly stupid this discussion is going to look when NDSU rolls Montana.

OK, obvious Cat fan. Any self-respecting Bizon fan would not feel the need.

 

[GrizPony]

If I were NDSU, I would be worried about the fact that I transformed from a person to a University. It would be weird.

I think this every time I read the title to this thread. Well played!

 

[GrizMusician]

FFS... Can't you kids get along with anyone? :roll:

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

 

[talon38]

I didn't read threw all the above posts, but will add my opinion anyway. If the Griz can play like the did against EWU in the 4th quarter of that game, they will win. It's the same approach EWU uses on offense for the most part. Pass first and then use the pass to set up the run. The Griz, IMO, nor can any FCS team try and pound it out with NDSU. Score fast and often and put there offense on their heels. The Griz have a good enough defense to control NDSU when they are behind. I know the Griz love to pound the rock, but with JJ and his scrambling and big play ability (AKA--Vernon Adams), use him to the best of his abilities. NDSU will never see it coming.

 

[1Griz_Fan]

You mean that KSU game where NDSU had 60 more yards of offense, 12 more minutes of TOP, had fewer turnovers (1 to 2) than KSU, had 8 more 3rd down conversions than KSU, more total first downs than KSU and fewer penalties AND did that playing in front of 58k KSU fans at their place? Ya you are right KSU should have won that game.

I watched two teams play that night. The better team won. Frankly it wasn't even close. Look above and the stats do not lie.

NDSU does one thing better than any FCS team. They line up and run the ball. Then they run it more. Then they run it and break your back. Wanna stack 8 in the box? Great we will run it more. If push comes to shove, we have a QB who by the way also threw 26 TD's this year and has won 4 FBS games and has won more FCS games than any QB.

I also remember that until that final drive that created the statistical difference to which you refer, NDSU was trailing as they had most of the game.

I was physically at that game. NDSU wad ahead 7-0 at the end of the first. KSU scored with about 10 left in the second and it was tied 7-7 at the end of the half. Back and fourth in the third and KSU had a 4 point lead after 3. Up until that final drive, yards were even, but NDSU still was leading that game everywhere else it counted but were down by 4. KSU scored two huge TD's on broken pass coverage. Besides that, NDSU physically controlled a BCS team on both sides of the ball, and eventually wore them down. Everyone at that game or with any insight into the game of football saw it that way.

The game of football is 4 quarters long. You have to play a game of football for 4 quarters. NDSU brings it for four quarters every single game. This is how we win games. Sometimes we win sluggfests 14-7. Sometimes we beat USD 40-0. Point is that we ALWAYS play 4 quarters of football and over the course of 3 full seasons and 2 playoff runs, have won 39 out of 41 games played and are 3-0 against FBS teams, 2 of which are from BCS conferences. You can say all the shoulda lost crap that you want.

I would hope you were actually at the game since "you" win games and "you" always play 4 quarters. "You" have a nice run going in the last three seasons...I vote for you as team mvp and mascot...so when is your eligibility up and when do you graduate? And are you thinking of going pro or maybe just sticking with playing for the Bison...

Trying to take and spin words is not going to change the outcome in a game against NDSU and Montana and how incredibly stupid this discussion is going to look when NDSU rolls Montana.

Really...I thought my post just won the game for the Griz, but wait a minute I don't play for the Griz and you don't play for the Bison so nothing we do matters when it comes to the game #*******

 

[1Griz_Fan]

One time I remember the Grizz barely beating a shitty USD team, who despite being shitty, took the ball and ran it down your throats. Then I remember NDSU playing that exact same team and it being 35-0 with 14 minutes to go in the third.

Respect the hell out of the Grizz. Love your fans passion and support. Your stadium is the best in the FCS and you have an awesome tradition, but frankly that means jack squat right now. If this matchup happens you are playing in Fargo in an environment that is every bit if not more difficult to play in than Washington Grizzly. You are playing against the best defense in the FCS. The best coach in the FCS. The most winningest QB in FCS history, 2 1,000 yard running backs, and a team who is more physical, more athletic, and better disciplined than the Grizz. If NDSU implodes and has turnovers, Montana can easily win. If not, I am sorry but you are not going to win. Period.

One time I remember the Bizzon barely beating a shitty Northern Iowa team, who despite being shitty, took the ball and ran it down your throats and made NDSU look very beatable. Then I remember during NDSU's championship runs they barely beat a lot of shitty teams so quit blowing Jensen and the Bizzon for a while and realize you are nothing but a troll hanging out way too much on eGriz. North Dakota sucks, not the Bizzon but the state so I guess if I lived there I wouldn't have anything better to do than be a jock sniffer like you too.

 

[bison]

One time I remember the Grizz barely beating a shitty USD team, who despite being shitty, took the ball and ran it down your throats. Then I remember NDSU playing that exact same team and it being 35-0 with 14 minutes to go in the third.

Respect the hell out of the Grizz. Love your fans passion and support. Your stadium is the best in the FCS and you have an awesome tradition, but frankly that means jack squat right now. If this matchup happens you are playing in Fargo in an environment that is every bit if not more difficult to play in than Washington Grizzly. You are playing against the best defense in the FCS. The best coach in the FCS. The most winningest QB in FCS history, 2 1,000 yard running backs, and a team who is more physical, more athletic, and better disciplined than the Grizz. If NDSU implodes and has turnovers, Montana can easily win. If not, I am sorry but you are not going to win. Period.

One time I remember the Bizzon barely beating a shitty Northern Iowa team, who despite being shitty, took the ball and ran it down your throats and made NDSU look very beatable. Then I remember during NDSU's championship runs they barely beat a lot of shitty teams so quit blowing Jensen and the Bizzon for a while and realize you are nothing but a troll hanging out way too much on eGriz. North Dakota sucks, not the Bizzon but the state so I guess if I lived there I wouldn't have anything better to do than be a jock sniffer like you too.

You mean that shitty.Northern Iowa team who heading into that game beat Iowa State and M State who is a seeded team? That Northern Iowa team who was ranked 3rd coming into that game. Ya they.were shitty. Do you realize how many players they lost to injuries? 16 to be exact including 12 starting players and their starting QB. That team is probably going to roll through next season and win it all. You can't controll injuries. They most certainly were not a shitty team.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332782449" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is the box score for that game. NDSU comitted 2 turnovers in that game which lead to 14 Northern Iowa points. Besides that, it wasn't close.

39-2 over the last 41 games and 2 National Championships. Guess NDSU has to be doing something right.

In 35 years of playing in the FCS, Montana has won 2 National Championships and beat 7 FBS teams. It has taken NDSU 10 years, including this year's playoffs yet to be played, and including 5 years of being inelligible, to win 2 National Championships, and in 10 years we have gone 7-3 against FBS teams, including 4 wins over teams in BCS conferences. After this year, we will have one more championship than Montana. I think some Montana fans have a problem seeing another team rise to be more of a power than the almighty Grizz.

 

[bison]

Also, I don't live in North Dakota, so I really don't know why you expect that to bother me or how saying that is going to change the fact that the Grizz are not going to beat NDSU.

 

[Copper Griz]

How many games have the Griz come out swinging on? First half of the Weber game and MSU games were horrid. This staff made adjustments in both games and the Griz got convincing wins. The same lackluster performance against NDSU would be disastrous. This team needs to figure out how to score early and often. The D is doing a good job and they have made steady improvements. Kudos to the secondary in particular. The Griz definitely have a chance against NDSU, but they better get the offensive play calling figured out ASAP. Ground and pound for two quarters will not get it done.

I have no confidence in an offensive scheme that takes at least 2 quarters to get in any kind of sync......predictable establish the run bullshit. Also, a healthy Van may be the man but looks tenative to me. John Nygen needs to get more snaps imho. Better not hang Jordy out to dry with these guys or he will get hammered. Just my 3 cents

I love Van in the open field, but he is like a rag doll when getting tackled. I watched him twice against the Cats get stopped and dragged backward - where another back would likely have powered forward for a couple more yards. JN runs damn hard for his size and is not afraid to lower his shoulder. Actually unbelievable how many different and quality backs we have. I would love to see Van used more in the passing game or on screens. He could be deadly with his quicks. Would be nice if Kirschner is healthy also. I completely agree the establish the run bullshit is not effective - regardless all of our talented backs. Others on the board seem to echo these sentiments. Obviously none of us have ever played the game. Hopefully the coaches act like it is halftime before the game starts and they make the appropriate adjustments prior to kickoff. I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume this is going to happen.

Kirschner doesn't play for the Griz anymore. Perhaps you mean Counts?

Exactly. I have no idea why I mix the two up. J Counts would be nice to have back from his injury. Thanks for the correction.

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

If NDSU implodes and has turnovers, Montana can easily win. If not, I am sorry but you are not going to win. Period.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332782449" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is the box score for that game. NDSU comitted 2 turnovers in that game which lead to 14 Northern Iowa points. Besides that, it wasn't close.

I think some Montana fans have a problem seeing another team rise to be more of a power than the almighty Grizz.

1. We are not stupid, we know NDSU is very, very good. We all know what it will take to win against them, and most of us are not sure the Griz have it this year. You saying it over and over and over just makes you a jerk. No message board fan can insure a win, that is why they play the games.

2. If you are talking about the 2013 game against UNI, you are way off base. I just watched that game, and UNI dominated until the 4th quarter. Yes NDSU turned the ball over twice but UNI only got 6 points out of those turnovers and not 14 as you claim. NDSU never had a lead until their final possession, and then they only won by ONE point. I would call that close. I would also call that almost losing.....you need to be a little more objective about your team.

3. We don't have a problem with another program being dominant. We have had a great time playing teams like APP State who was pretty darn good for a long time. What we have a problem with is you trolling our board and being a butthead. Play nice and we will all get along just fine.

 

[Rookgriz]

If NDSU implodes and has turnovers, Montana can easily win. If not, I am sorry but you are not going to win. Period.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332782449" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is the box score for that game. NDSU comitted 2 turnovers in that game which lead to 14 Northern Iowa points. Besides that, it wasn't close.

I think some Montana fans have a problem seeing another team rise to be more of a power than the almighty Grizz.

1. We are not stupid, we know NDSU is very, very good. We all know what it will take to win against them, and most of us are not sure the Griz have it this year. You saying it over and over and over just makes you a jerk. No message board fan can insure a win, that is why they play the games.

2. If you are talking about the 2013 game against UNI, you are way off base. I just watched that game, and UNI dominated until the 4th quarter. Yes NDSU turned the ball over twice but UNI only got 6 points out of those turnovers and not 14 as you claim. NDSU never had a lead until their final possession, and then they only won by ONE point. I would call that close. I would also call that almost losing.....you need to be a little more objective about your team.

3. We don't have a problem with another program being dominant. We have had a great time playing teams like APP State who was pretty darn good for a long time. What we have a problem with is you trolling our board and being a butthead. Play nice and we will all get along just fine.

Preach it :clap:

 

[griz8791]

. . . I think some Montana fans have a problem seeing another team rise to be more of a power than the almighty Grizz.

Possibly. On the other hand, some of us see what NDSU is doing right now as vindication of what we think would have happened if Montana had had adequate leadership and a long-term plan that didn't consist of making the football program fund other campus projects while starving it of infrastructure and strategic funding.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Thing I dont like is at the beginning of next year N dakota st will have the revenge factor going for them when we play

kevraid, I just wanted you to know that I appreciated this gem. It did not go unnoticed. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[bison]

Thing I dont like is at the beginning of next year N dakota st will have the revenge factor going for them when we play

kevraid, I just wanted you to know that I appreciated this gem. It did not go unnoticed. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I saw it. Nobody responded because it is likely not to play out that way.

Laugh my ass of when people try saying there have been many games over the past four years the Bison should have lost. At a certain point after a team goes 39-2 you say when a team gets down against NDSU and it is in the 4th quarter, the opposing team will not win because IT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

2 games NDSU has lost.

17-14 ISU...Jensen threw 2 pick 6's and a third on potential game tying/winning drive.
27-24 YSU...Ojuri fumbles and YSU took the lead

I have never seen this NDSU have their defense dominated or run game shut down. There has been 2 teams to win against NDSU but it took critical turnovers to do so

 

[Htowngriz]

Thing I dont like is at the beginning of next year N dakota st will have the revenge factor going for them when we play

kevraid, I just wanted you to know that I appreciated this gem. It did not go unnoticed. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I saw it. Nobody responded because it is likely not to play out that way.

Laugh my ass of when people try saying there have been many games over the past four years the Bison should have lost. At a certain point after a team goes 39-2 you say when a team gets down against NDSU and it is in the 4th quarter, the opposing team will not win because IT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

2 games NDSU has lost.

17-14 ISU...Jensen threw 2 pick 6's and a third on potential game tying/winning drive.
27-24 YSU...Ojuri fumbles and YSU took the lead

I have never seen this NDSU have their defense dominated or run game shut down. There has been 2 teams to win against NDSU but it took critical turnovers to do so

Turnovers are a part of the game, and a very critical one at that. This is one aspect of the game where UM will have a BIG advantage should we meet.