I Like QB Britt

[AZGrizFan]

How does a player win scout team POY and the coaches have zero idea “what they had”? I mean they recruited the kid for a reason, didn’t they?

Scout team runs the opponent's offense, not the UM offense, and there are a lot of guys that play in games much different (see: better) than they do in practice.

Once the season starts, if he isn't getting reps with the top 2 offenses, he isn't running the Griz offense in practice. This isn't to say they were right in not putting him #2, it's clear he's a better option now, but if you're wondering how it got that way, there's your answer.

I guess what astounds me even more is it took almost two full games of watching Brown’s inability to move the offense before they finally made the change (if indeed it’s even truly been made). After 3 quarters at Sac and about 2 more quarters at Weber I would have thought that would have been enough. Might have salvaged the Weber game and all our fan angst over needing a win Saturday to get in would be moot.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Scout team runs the opponent's offense, not the UM offense, and there are a lot of guys that play in games much different (see: better) than they do in practice.

Once the season starts, if he isn't getting reps with the top 2 offenses, he isn't running the Griz offense in practice. This isn't to say they were right in not putting him #2, it's clear he's a better option now, but if you're wondering how it got that way, there's your answer.

I guess what astounds me even more is it took almost two full games of watching Brown’s inability to move the offense before they finally made the change (if indeed it’s even truly been made). After 3 quarters at Sac and about 2 more quarters at Weber I would have thought that would have been enough. Might have salvaged the Weber game and all our fan angst over needing a win Saturday to get in would be moot.

I assume they didn't want to experiment with a 3d teamer who had not played or gotten many reps in practice, during big games with top 5 opponents. Putting Britt in today was a heck of a lot different than putting him in for SS and Weber. And sure enough, he threw a pick.

 

[uofmman1122]

Scout team runs the opponent's offense, not the UM offense, and there are a lot of guys that play in games much different (see: better) than they do in practice.

Once the season starts, if he isn't getting reps with the top 2 offenses, he isn't running the Griz offense in practice. This isn't to say they were right in not putting him #2, it's clear he's a better option now, but if you're wondering how it got that way, there's your answer.

I guess what astounds me even more is it took almost two full games of watching Brown’s inability to move the offense before they finally made the change (if indeed it’s even truly been made). After 3 quarters at Sac and about 2 more quarters at Weber I would have thought that would have been enough. Might have salvaged the Weber game and all our fan angst over needing a win Saturday to get in would be moot.

Trust me, I'm right there with you, especially since using (an injured lol) Bergen for first time ever in the Wildcat to spell their QB pretty much already screams they knew he couldn't provide enough on his own.

 

[kemajic]

I guess what astounds me even more is it took almost two full games of watching Brown’s inability to move the offense before they finally made the change (if indeed it’s even truly been made). After 3 quarters at Sac and about 2 more quarters at Weber I would have thought that would have been enough. Might have salvaged the Weber game and all our fan angst over needing a win Saturday to get in would be moot.

I assume they didn't want to experiment with a 3d teamer who had not played or gotten many reps in practice, during big games with top 5 opponents. Putting Britt in today was a heck of a lot different than putting him in for SS and Weber. And sure enough, he threw a pick.

Pick was a batted ball. They got the ball on 1 yard line. Big threat. The staff's failure to take a chance on the higher ceiling player, Britt, did not show a lot of balls. And a big price was paid. They look foolish.

We beat MSU with either Johnson or Britt.

 

[Fahque]

I guess what astounds me even more is it took almost two full games of watching Brown’s inability to move the offense before they finally made the change (if indeed it’s even truly been made). After 3 quarters at Sac and about 2 more quarters at Weber I would have thought that would have been enough. Might have salvaged the Weber game and all our fan angst over needing a win Saturday to get in would be moot.

I assume they didn't want to experiment with a 3d teamer who had not played or gotten many reps in practice, during big games with top 5 opponents. Putting Britt in today was a heck of a lot different than putting him in for SS and Weber. And sure enough, he threw a pick.

The pick wasn’t the best decision but don’t sit there and act like Lucas has never thrown an interception. He threw two in a row in a game earlier this year. Picks happen, he just needs to learn from them and get better

 

[AZGrizFan]

I guess what astounds me even more is it took almost two full games of watching Brown’s inability to move the offense before they finally made the change (if indeed it’s even truly been made). After 3 quarters at Sac and about 2 more quarters at Weber I would have thought that would have been enough. Might have salvaged the Weber game and all our fan angst over needing a win Saturday to get in would be moot.

I assume they didn't want to experiment with a 3d teamer who had not played or gotten many reps in practice, during big games with top 5 opponents. Putting Britt in today was a heck of a lot different than putting him in for SS and Weber. And sure enough, he threw a pick.

:lol: :lol: I KNEW you’d focus on that one singular play. I called it in the game thread as soon as it happened.

It would appear that depsite ALL the reps Brown got in practice, he still was unable to do much during big games with top 5 opponents. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the textbook definition of insanity. Glad to see the coaching staff came to their senses today.

 

[kemajic]

I assume they didn't want to experiment with a 3d teamer who had not played or gotten many reps in practice, during big games with top 5 opponents. Putting Britt in today was a heck of a lot different than putting him in for SS and Weber. And sure enough, he threw a pick.

:lol: :lol: I KNEW you’d focus on that one singular play. I called it in the game thread as soon as it happened.

It would appear that depsite ALL the reps Brown got in practice, he still was unable to do much during big games with top 5 opponents. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the textbook definition of insanity. Glad to see the coaching staff came to their senses today.

Britt plays with confidence, Brown with fear.

 

[grizfan406]

I don't think a frosh qb with only 1 game of experience was inserted.

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

Yeah, that was a historically bad performance against Weber for our offense. Britt literally could not have done worse. I'm convinced, and yes I know that Easterns defense was absolutely horrible, that we would have won at least the Weber game and probably the Sac game if Britt had played at minimum the 4th quarter of each game.

 

[grizghost]

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

Yeah, that was a historically bad performance against Weber for our offense. Britt literally could not have done worse. I'm convinced, and yes I know that Easterns defense was absolutely horrible, that we would have won at least the Weber game and probably the Sac game if Britt had played at minimum the 4th quarter of each game.

....once Lucas got hurt and Brown could not produce what's the next option....its call Risk's ...it can pay high
dividends ....every coaching staff must drive off the cliff sometimes to win...its part of game..the Cats put
Mellot in and look where that got them...no more excuses its do or die! Bobby likes to play it safe and
conservative in high profile games and it has cost them in the past and present...no more playing it safe
win or lose!

 

[grizondarez]

:thumb:

I guess what astounds me even more is it took almost two full games of watching Brown’s inability to move the offense before they finally made the change (if indeed it’s even truly been made). After 3 quarters at Sac and about 2 more quarters at Weber I would have thought that would have been enough. Might have salvaged the Weber game and all our fan angst over needing a win Saturday to get in would be moot.

Trust me, I'm right there with you, especially since using (an injured lol) Bergen for first time ever in the Wildcat to spell their QB pretty much already screams they knew he couldn't provide enough on his own.

 

[Bok_Choi]

We run a heavy RPO offense. The QB almost always has the choice to throw it.

It has a lot more to do with what hoops is saying. He didn't get enough reps for them to feel confident putting him in the game, and now that he has, he's shown that he might be the better #2 guy.

How does a player win scout team POY and the coaches have zero idea “what they had”? I mean they recruited the kid for a reason, didn’t they?

Of course they know what they have. The issue here is that developing quarterbacks or offensive linemen seem to be part of someone else's job description, like someone who coaches them on another team prior to their transfer.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Yeah, that was a historically bad performance against Weber for our offense. Britt literally could not have done worse. I'm convinced, and yes I know that Easterns defense was absolutely horrible, that we would have won at least the Weber game and probably the Sac game if Britt had played at minimum the 4th quarter of each game.

....once Lucas got hurt and Brown could not produce what's the next option....its call Risk's ...it can pay high
dividends ....every coaching staff must drive off the cliff sometimes to win...its part of game..the Cats put
Mellot in and look where that got them...no more excuses its do or die! Bobby likes to play it safe and
conservative in high profile games and it has cost them in the past and present...no more playing it safe
win or lose!

Mellott was moved from no. 2 to no. 1. He wasn't no. 3, and put in mid-game in a big game. Try comparing apples to apples. Jeez, some of the egriz posters must not have even played flag football.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Hauck inserted the 3rd string QB that for all intents and purposes, was no more proven than Daniel Britt and there was a hell of a lot more on the line in that game. And by no means is this a slam against Patterson in any way, shape, or form. Just pointing out a fact, and I am of the opinion that it would have hurt nothing to but Britt in against Weber.

Yeah, that was a historically bad performance against Weber for our offense. Britt literally could not have done worse. I'm convinced, and yes I know that Easterns defense was absolutely horrible, that we would have won at least the Weber game and probably the Sac game if Britt had played at minimum the 4th quarter of each game.

Of course, Britt could have done worse. He could have thrown one or more picks. He could have fumbled. He probably couldn't run parts of the offense, including parts emphasized for the particular game.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I assume they didn't want to experiment with a 3d teamer who had not played or gotten many reps in practice, during big games with top 5 opponents. Putting Britt in today was a heck of a lot different than putting him in for SS and Weber. And sure enough, he threw a pick.

Pick was a batted ball. They got the ball on 1 yard line. Big threat. The staff's failure to take a chance on the higher ceiling player, Britt, did not show a lot of balls. And a big price was paid. They look foolish.

We beat MSU with either Johnson or Britt.

A pick is a pick. Brown doesn't have any this year. A good coaching staff doesn't put in a completely inexperienced no. 3 qb in the middle of any important game, in my opinion, especially one who has had almost no reps in practice since pre-season ball. Feel free to point out any examples, in which a team lost its starter, and then replaced its no. 2 qb during the same game (or the next game), with a frosh as inexperienced as Britt, during a big game against top 5 competition.

There is a bunch of Sunday Morning QBing going on. After knowing the result of the game, then people are saying the coach should have taken big risks and played the no. 3.

 

[Fahque]

This thread is much more palatable and faster to browse now that I have added hoops to the foe list

 

[grizghost]

Pick was a batted ball. They got the ball on 1 yard line. Big threat. The staff's failure to take a chance on the higher ceiling player, Britt, did not show a lot of balls. And a big price was paid. They look foolish.

We beat MSU with either Johnson or Britt.

A pick is a pick. Brown doesn't have any this year. A good coaching staff doesn't put in a completely inexperienced no. 3 qb in the middle of any important game, in my opinion, especially one who has had almost no reps in practice since pre-season ball. Feel free to point out any examples, in which a team lost its starter, and then replaced its no. 2 qb during the same game (or the next game), with a frosh as inexperienced as Britt, during a big game against top 5 competition.

There is a bunch of Sunday Morning QBing going on. After knowing the result of the game, then people are saying the coach should have taken big risks and played the no. 3.

...not sure where you have been but this discussion has been gone on for weeks...you not the only one
that has played the game!...futhermore Britt would have been #2 after Lucas was out (Weber) ....so they
had to be a least knowing if Brown want down he would come in...yes coaching staff are forced into risks...
as you know injuries force teams to drive the next man up! ...if #1 is out and #2 doesn't work bring in #3..
yes he may be limited but that's the hand you have to play....

 

[mthoopsfan]

A pick is a pick. Brown doesn't have any this year. A good coaching staff doesn't put in a completely inexperienced no. 3 qb in the middle of any important game, in my opinion, especially one who has had almost no reps in practice since pre-season ball. Feel free to point out any examples, in which a team lost its starter, and then replaced its no. 2 qb during the same game (or the next game), with a frosh as inexperienced as Britt, during a big game against top 5 competition.

There is a bunch of Sunday Morning QBing going on. After knowing the result of the game, then people are saying the coach should have taken big risks and played the no. 3.

...not sure where you have been but this discussion has been gone on for weeks...you not the only one
that has played the game!...futhermore Britt would have been #2 after Lucas was out (Weber) ....so they
had to be a least knowing if Brown want down he would come in...yes coaching staff are forced into risks...
as you know injuries force teams to drive the next man up! ...if #1 is out and #2 doesn't work bring in #3..
yes he may be limited but that's the hand you have to play....

Not sure where you have been, but I've been the discussion all along, trying to help out the posters who never even played flag football. Yes, Britt got more reps in the week after the SS game. I was at practice. No, when the no. 2 isn't producing (but also not throwing picks and fumbling), you don't just put in an experienced no. 3 who hasn't had many reps. Especially when the game is still close.

 

[RoseyMustGo]

....once Lucas got hurt and Brown could not produce what's the next option....its call Risk's ...it can pay high
dividends ....every coaching staff must drive off the cliff sometimes to win...its part of game..the Cats put
Mellot in and look where that got them...no more excuses its do or die! Bobby likes to play it safe and
conservative in high profile games and it has cost them in the past and present...no more playing it safe
win or lose!

Mellott was moved from no. 2 to no. 1. He wasn't no. 3, and put in mid-game in a big game. Try comparing apples to apples. Jeez, some of the egriz posters must not have even played flag football.

envy the people who haven't met you

 

[mthoopsfan]

I think the definition of insanity is posters who didn't even play flag football, thinking they know more than coaches who have zillions of years of experience.

And posters who think being scout team POY makes a third team qb qualified to come into a huge game and save the day.

And posters who think interceptions and turnovers are to a big deal.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Mellott was moved from no. 2 to no. 1. He wasn't no. 3, and put in mid-game in a big game. Try comparing apples to apples. Jeez, some of the egriz posters must not have even played flag football.

envy the people who haven't met you

Hey, thanks, Mr. Never Even Played Flag Football. You add a lot, of humor, to the board.