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Husky Homer.

I was at this game, and in general I thought the game was pretty well officiated. Washington's style of defense just lends itself to a lot of handchecking and pushing. Probably fouls, but rarely called on them.

That said, I will readily agree that there was a five or six minute stretch where it really appeared the Huskies were being given a huge scoop of home cookin'. Every call during that period of time was questionable at best. But, that tends to happen on the road.

What really impressed me is that the Griz battled right back: Had calls going their way, lost the lead, got down five and then battled right back to to tie it. I think most Griz teams would have folded their tents and gone on home in that situation. I was proud of the way the Guys played.
 
by Grizbacker1 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:20 am

62GRIZ wrote:
I don't care where the officials were from - the GRIZ got homered big time. I told my wife that was the worst job of officiating I had ever seen. Every touch by Montana was a foul. When did falling to the floor without moving your feet become traveling? The GRIZ beat the Huskies - the refs just reversed the obvious. It was a travesty, Disarray. Evidently you didn't watch the game.

Uh yeah,I did watch the game. Evidently you didn't read ll the posts saying they were Pac 10 officials. Bottom line, even Coach Tinkle said they "squandered' the opportunity. I imagine you blame someone else everytime something doesn't go your way right?

I did read all the posts. I wasn't even addressing your post - read it again - it reads: "Disarray!" I wasn't the only one that detected the bias - perhaps you were the only one that didn't see it?!
 
62GRIZ said:
by Grizbacker1 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:20 am

62GRIZ wrote:
I don't care where the officials were from - the GRIZ got homered big time. I told my wife that was the worst job of officiating I had ever seen. Every touch by Montana was a foul. When did falling to the floor without moving your feet become traveling? The GRIZ beat the Huskies - the refs just reversed the obvious. It was a travesty, Disarray. Evidently you didn't watch the game.

Uh yeah,I did watch the game. Evidently you didn't read ll the posts saying they were Pac 10 officials. Bottom line, even Coach Tinkle said they "squandered' the opportunity. I imagine you blame someone else everytime something doesn't go your way right?

I did read all the posts. I wasn't even addressing your post - read it again - it reads: "Disarray!" I wasn't the only one that detected the bias - perhaps you were the only one that didn't see it?!

I just thought your use of the English language was limited. ;)
 
I was at the game yesterday and while I don't disagree about the lack of calls on our part I don't think that was what cost the team the chance at winning.

When the team was up 12 in the second half, coach substituted 3 players for Qvale, Johnson and McGillis (I think). Rather then continue the same type of offensive set that got them the lead they went to a much more conservative offense that seemed designed to do nothing more than run time off the clock. For several minutes the offense seemd to do nothing more than a 2-3 man weave off the dribble above the top of the key and stopped looking to attack the basket. At the same time UW started hitting some shots and the lead was reduced to just a couple of points in just a minute or two. By the time the starters were put back in UW had the momentum.

I know that Qvale was in foul trouble and he had to be taken out, but taking out your two other main offensive threats at the same time is a recipe for failure. When you are playing teams at this level you can't go completely conservative offensively with 12+ minutes to go in the game and not expect them to make a run. Why not stagger the substitutions so that you don't have all your offensive threats off the floor at the same and continue to run the same offense that got them the lead? As soon as UM stopped attacking the basket and UW started to cut into the lead you could see the game was over. Good teams will recognize whan you start playing conservatively and pick up the intensity.

This was clearly a winnable game. Playing on the road you have to expect that you aren't going to get the calls. If you look at the things in UM's control, a few less turnovers (Cherry 6), a few more made shots and some better coaching decisions on our part in the second half and this game still could have been won in spite of the officiating.
 
Hey there guys. I'm a big UW fan and an even bigger Bobcat fan. Went to MSU, now live near seattle. Anyways, I watched the game last night and was blown away with the officiating. I can't say I was pissed, but if I was you I would be. The griz did a good job of taking the huskies out of their game. I'm very concerned about the huskies lack of inside presence. But thankfully the pac10 is down this year.

Anyways, just wanted to let you know that your usually maroon sunglasses that throw off your perspective were dead on this time.
 
I agree the officiating was not good at all, but in the end they were not the difference in the game - sill turnovers, and failing to complete plays at the end of the game. Officiating let UW get back in the game, but the last 2 - 4 minutes were pretty straight up and Griz just couldn't quite make it. However, if this game was played in Missoula I think we would have seen a different outcome. Good outing though, hope they can keep up the level of play this weekend.

grizbacker I am curious why you think they were BSC officials and not Pac 10? according to this site these guys work Pac 10 and WCC games - Brill and Spitznagel haven't officiated BSC games since 06, and White not since 01.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/referees/deron-white/conferences
 
Even the fans on dawgman.com are saying the Huskies got the calls from the officials down the stretch. Of course, they're saying the game was officiated poorly all the way through and that the Griz got the calls until that point. I think all the rain has led to moss on their brain, however. :roll:

Both a Zag fan and a Coug fan agree that the Griz got hosed.

Beyond that, not a lot of Griz Love on that site. They just felt the little doggies played poorly and none of that was attributable to the Griz D.
 
Grizbeer said:
I agree the officiating was not good at all, but in the end they were not the difference in the game - sill turnovers, and failing to complete plays at the end of the game. Officiating let UW get back in the game, but the last 2 - 4 minutes were pretty straight up and Griz just couldn't quite make it. However, if this game was played in Missoula I think we would have seen a different outcome. Good outing though, hope they can keep up the level of play this weekend.

grizbacker I am curious why you think they were BSC officials and not Pac 10? according to this site these guys work Pac 10 and WCC games - Brill and Spitznagel haven't officiated BSC games since 06, and White not since 01.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/referees/deron-white/conferences

I thought that because the Cougar announcers i was listening to said so before the tipoff. I certainly could be wrong, but thought they would at least know that much
 
In the past, typically college games had been if possible been officiated by the road teams conference officials. This was a way to mitigate homer jobs like last night. I understand that it was a homer job for about 10 minutes of the second half, but otherwise it was well officiated.

There are a pool of officials who "Try Out" for certain conferences. Every summer there are officials who try out for the BSC in SLC. Anymore, some conferences or schools use a local pool for non-conference games which means you might get guys who typically officate everywhere from PAC-10 games all the way down to scenic west games, they just need to have been part of the NCAA pool for that area. The guys might get 1 PAC 10 game a year and 10 WCC and 20 regional Division 2 or 3 games. The agreement is that the officials aren't from the PAC-10 or the BSC but more neutral local officals. Saves on money and travel the BSC has to fork out for non-conference games. At least that is how it was explained to me last winter.
 
Generally for a gaurentee game the host team gets to pick the officials, because they are paying the visting team a good chunk of $. When you have like a UW coming to Missoula for example then the visiting team gets to pick the officials. Typically if you have a top 5 power conference program coming to play the second half of a home and home series contract with a mid-major program that's they way the game contracts are set-up. I don't know the details of this contract, but I would assume they were Pac-10 officials unless they is a return game set-up that has a flip type situation for what officials do game. Does anyone have factual proof of what pool the officials came from?
 
Washington got "paid back" this evening in their OT loss at Texas Tech. There were at least three clearly bad calls that went against Washington late in regulation play. Doesn't do Montana any good, but maybe Washington's record is right where it should be.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
Grizbeer said:
I agree the officiating was not good at all, but in the end they were not the difference in the game - sill turnovers, and failing to complete plays at the end of the game. Officiating let UW get back in the game, but the last 2 - 4 minutes were pretty straight up and Griz just couldn't quite make it. However, if this game was played in Missoula I think we would have seen a different outcome. Good outing though, hope they can keep up the level of play this weekend.

grizbacker I am curious why you think they were BSC officials and not Pac 10? according to this site these guys work Pac 10 and WCC games - Brill and Spitznagel haven't officiated BSC games since 06, and White not since 01.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/referees/deron-white/conferences

I thought that because the Cougar announcers i was listening to said so before the tipoff. I certainly could be wrong, but thought they would at least know that much

They said no such thing. Typical response from the wizard of oz, always blame someone else.
 
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