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How Good is Trey Lance?

jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I was talking about my opinion on Trey Lance before you had to derail this thread with your hateful and disrespectful words. They hurt me. Coming from a Bizon spending his weekend on eGriz, they were shameful, really. Happy Sunday!

Calling you a douche bag? Don’t know you but you came off as a Jerk.

Hahahah good try good sir. Not a Bison in any way shape or form. I do respect their program and admire Trey Lance. Have a problem with that? Does that make me a shitty fan?

K, cool! If we’re in trust tree and on the subject of complete truths, I have to confess that I’m not really a 6th generation astronaut. Only my great-grandmother and grandmother were astronauts. The others were Russian cosmonauts.
 
jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
How often would you say I cross your mind?

Ummmm never?

That’s a very weird question to ask.

Thought you had cabana boys to seduce. Get back to it

I can totally tell that I don’t occupy any of your time. You couldn’t care less what I say about how good or bad Trey Lance is at FCS football on an internet message board.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jlambertum said:
Calling you a douche bag? Don’t know you but you came off as a Jerk.

Hahahah good try good sir. Not a Bison in any way shape or form. I do respect their program and admire Trey Lance. Have a problem with that? Does that make me a shitty fan?

K, cool! If we’re in trust tree on on the subject of truths, I have to confess that I’m not really a 6th generation astronaut. Only my great-grandmother and grandmother were astronauts. The others were Russian cosmonauts.

Done talking to you man. There is something wrong with you.

Go find a chat room or something. This is a football forum.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jlambertum said:
Ummmm never?

That’s a very weird question to ask.

Thought you had cabana boys to seduce. Get back to it

I can totally tell that I don’t occupy any of your time. You couldn’t care less what I say about how good or bad Trey Lance is at FCS football on an internet message board.

You just seem like an old loser who spends a lot of time on a message board. 17,000 some posts? Dude get a life.

Also the type who has an inferiority complex when it comes to players who aren’t a Griz.
 
jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
K, cool! If we’re in trust tree on on the subject of truths, I have to confess that I’m not really a 6th generation astronaut. Only my great-grandmother and grandmother were astronauts. The others were Russian cosmonauts.

Done talking to you man. There is something wrong with you.

Go find a chat room or something. This is a football forum.

K, cool!
 
jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I can totally tell that I don’t occupy any of your time. You couldn’t care less what I say about how good or bad Trey Lance is at FCS football on an internet message board.

You just seem like an old loser who spends a lot of time on a message board.

Also the type who has an inferiority complex when it comes to other players.

I see you’ve given this a lot of thought since you were done talking to me 46 seconds ago.
 
WaGriz4life said:
Paytonlives said:
3rd round at best... More likely 4th
You are crazy. Top 10 pick overall. Most likely third QB off the board, 2nd overall QB is possible. Not jumping Lawrence.

Better than Wentz

I think he’s definitely ahead of Fields.

Watching some of his highlights. Dam. Kid can fly. In today’s NFL, it wouldn’t shock me if he goes ahead of Lawrence if his 40 time is really good.

It will be curious if he goes out as a redshirt Sophomore. Can anyone remember the last time that happened? Michael Vick?
 
jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I can totally tell that I don’t occupy any of your time. You couldn’t care less what I say about how good or bad Trey Lance is at FCS football on an internet message board.

You just seem like an old loser who spends a lot of time on a message board. 17,000 some posts? Dude get a life.

You average 14.5 posts per day. Kind of a rough look for someone who doesn’t care...
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jlambertum said:
You just seem like an old loser who spends a lot of time on a message board. 17,000 some posts? Dude get a life.

You average 14.5 posts per day. Kind of a rough look for someone who doesn’t care...

I’m a college student.
If you joined in 2005 and were a freshman, that still means you are pushing upper 30’s. Hopefully when I’m that old, I’m not sitting on a message board.

Go back to the cabana
 
jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
You average 14.5 posts per day. Kind of a rough look for someone who doesn’t care...

I’m a college student.
If you joined in 2005 and were a freshman, that still means you are pushing upper 30’s. Hopefully when I’m that old, I’m not sitting on a message board.

Go back to the cabana

I’m still in the cabana, Mr. Donetalkingtome. Does Boost Mobile not give your parents’ plan enough data or something? This isn’t difficult.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jlambertum said:
I’m a college student.
If you joined in 2005 and were a freshman, that still means you are pushing upper 30’s. Hopefully when I’m that old, I’m not sitting on a message board.

Go back to the cabana

I’m still in the cabana, Mr. Donetalkingtome. Does Boost Mobile not give your parents’ plan enough data or something? This isn’t difficult.

Dude just stop. Trying to talk football. If you wanna be an immature jerk, you live in a perfect place to do it.

No sense in ruining a football forum
 
jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I’m still in the cabana, Mr. Donetalkingtome. Does Boost Mobile not give your parents’ plan enough data or something? This isn’t difficult.

Dude just stop. Trying to talk football. If you wanna be an immature jerk, you live in a perfect place to do it.

No sense in ruining a football forum

I didn’t start the thread. Sorry it didn’t turn out how you drew it up in your mind when you created the account for the sole purpose. You really still think we can’t see it, which is funny.

Freaking Morikawa with the bungled 5-iron. C’mon man! I’m rooting for him for sure, but you just have to hit the fw there...
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jlambertum said:
Dude just stop. Trying to talk football. If you wanna be an immature jerk, you live in a perfect place to do it.

No sense in ruining a football forum

I didn’t start the thread. Sorry it didn’t turn out how you drew it up in your mind when you created the account for the sole purpose. You really still think we can’t see it, which is funny.

Freaking Morikawa with the bungled 5-iron. C’mon man! I’m rooting for him for sure, but you just have to hit the fw there...

I wanted to talk about a football player . Not play games with some old fucker who has nothing better to do than derail threads and call people fat.

I didn’t understand the bad passer comment when he lead the league in passer rating, didn’t throw a pick and is getting rave reviews for his passer ability.

I also didn’t understand the lock onto wide receivers comment. I drove to Fargo with friends for the Cats game and watched him go to third/fourth receiver multiple times. If he had a tendency to do that a lot, he’d certainly have high pick numbers.

If he has those flaws, I think it’s weird that you see it and nobody else does.
 
jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I didn’t start the thread. Sorry it didn’t turn out how you drew it up in your mind when you created the account for the sole purpose. You really still think we can’t see it, which is funny.

Freaking Morikawa with the bungled 5-iron. C’mon man! I’m rooting for him for sure, but you just have to hit the fw there...

I wanted to talk about a football player . Not play games with some old fucker who has nothing better to do than derail threads and call people fat.

I didn’t understand the bad passer comment when he lead the league in passer rating, didn’t throw a pick and is getting rave reviews for his passer ability.

I also didn’t understand the lock onto wide receivers comment. I drove to Fargo with friends for the Cats game and watched him go to third/fourth receiver multiple times. If he had a tendency to do that a lot, he’d certainly have high pick numbers.

If he has those flaws, I think it’s weird that you see it and nobody else does.

I’ll pass on your insults.

Please show me where I said he was a bad passer. I’ll save you some time; I didn’t. I don’t know if he’s a bad passer, because he doesn’t pass very often. When he does, it’s in FCS against the likes of Butler or some MVFC opponent. The locking onto a receiver issue is well-documented. I didn’t make it up. Seneca Wallace ran a 4.5 in the combine, didn’t make him a good pro QB, and didn’t make him a bad person. My opinion on Trey Lance is that he’s overhyped right now. I think he’ll get drafted, but I don’t see him as an all-pro QB. It doesn’t mean that your Bizon aren’t good, but I’m also not required to crown Lance as the next Tom Brady. Sorry if that offends you. I really am.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jlambertum said:
I wanted to talk about a football player . Not play games with some old f###[#] who has nothing better to do than derail threads and call people fat.

I didn’t understand the bad passer comment when he lead the league in passer rating, didn’t throw a pick and is getting rave reviews for his passer ability.

I also didn’t understand the lock onto wide receivers comment. I drove to Fargo with friends for the Cats game and watched him go to third/fourth receiver multiple times. If he had a tendency to do that a lot, he’d certainly have high pick numbers.

If he has those flaws, I think it’s weird that you see it and nobody else does.

I’ll pass on your insults.

Please show me where I said he was a bad passer. I’ll save you some time; I didn’t. I don’t know if he’s a bad passer, because he doesn’t pass very often. When he does, it’s in FCS against the likes of Butler or some MVFC opponent. The locking onto a receiver issue is well-documented. I didn’t make it up. Seneca Wallace ran a 4.5 in the combine, didn’t make him a good pro QB, and didn’t make him a bad person. My opinion on Trey Lance is that he’s overhyped right now. I think he’ll get drafted, but I don’t see him as an all-pro QB. It doesn’t mean that your Bizon aren’t good, but I’m also not required to crown Lance as the next Tom Brady. Sorry if that offends you. I really am.

I just looked up Seneca Wallace’s stats. Wasn’t a good passer in college and was tiny. Nothing about him other than the color of his skin is similar to Lance.

Your Bizon? Dude, you can think a guy is good and that isn’t your team. Cooper Kupp was a stud for the Eagles. Did that make me an EWU fan? Fuck no.

Doesn’t NDSU run a pro style offense? Seems to me he threw the ball about the same as Wentz did and Wentz went #2. Hate to tell you man but EWU had some awesome air raid offenses and those type of offenses don’t prove much.

Just trying to find where the lock onto receivers thing is documented. I was watching a lot of the draft analysis and the guys who talked about him didn’t mention it once. That’s why I’m confused. ....maybe he does sometimes, but I think every college QB does to some degree.

The MVFC has the best defenses in the country. He tore them up. Shit the Cats had a good D last year and he tore them up. Then played JMU and they couldn’t contain him. Didn’t seem like teams had an answer. When they tried to stop the run, he tore them up passing. Try to contain the pass and he tore them up running.
 
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jlambertum said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I’ll pass on your insults.

Please show me where I said he was a bad passer. I’ll save you some time; I didn’t. I don’t know if he’s a bad passer, because he doesn’t pass very often. When he does, it’s in FCS against the likes of Butler or some MVFC opponent. The locking onto a receiver issue is well-documented. I didn’t make it up. Seneca Wallace ran a 4.5 in the combine, didn’t make him a good pro QB, and didn’t make him a bad person. My opinion on Trey Lance is that he’s overhyped right now. I think he’ll get drafted, but I don’t see him as an all-pro QB. It doesn’t mean that your Bizon aren’t good, but I’m also not required to crown Lance as the next Tom Brady. Sorry if that offends you. I really am.

I just looked up Seneca Wallace’s stats. Wasn’t a good passer in college and was tiny. Nothing about him other than the color of his skin is similar to Lance.

Your Bizon? Dude, you can think a guy is good and that isn’t your team. Cooper Kupp was a stud for the Eagles. Did that make me an EWU fan? Fuck no.

Doesn’t NDSU run a pro style offense? Seems to me he threw the ball about the same as Wentz did and Wentz went #2. Hate to tell you man but EWU had some awesome air raid offenses and those type of offenses don’t prove much.

Just trying to find where the lock onto receivers thing is documented. I was watching a lot of the draft analysis and the guys who talked about him didn’t mention it once. That’s why I’m confused. ....maybe he does sometimes, but I think every college QB does to some degree.

The MVFC has the best defenses in the country. He tore them up. Shit the Cats had a good D last year and he tore them up. Then played JMU and they couldn’t contain him. Didn’t seem like teams had an answer. When they tried to stop the run, he tore them up passing. Try to contain the pass and he tore them up running.

I guess I just don’t think about Trey Lance as much as you do. I don’t follow Bizon football as closely as you do, but I’ve read stuff about locking onto a receiver, less than stellar footwork in the pocket, and him benefitting from passing against a stacked box against 1-on-1 coverage most of the game since he only throws like 18 times per game (because the Bizon play such boring football).

The level of competition in his conference just isn’t where it needs to be for him to have proven himself as a top round draft pick.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jlambertum said:
I just looked up Seneca Wallace’s stats. Wasn’t a good passer in college and was tiny. Nothing about him other than the color of his skin is similar to Lance.

Your Bizon? Dude, you can think a guy is good and that isn’t your team. Cooper Kupp was a stud for the Eagles. Did that make me an EWU fan? [#]f### no.

Doesn’t NDSU run a pro style offense? Seems to me he threw the ball about the same as Wentz did and Wentz went #2. Hate to tell you man but EWU had some awesome air raid offenses and those type of offenses don’t prove much.

Just trying to find where the lock onto receivers thing is documented. I was watching a lot of the draft analysis and the guys who talked about him didn’t mention it once. That’s why I’m confused. ....maybe he does sometimes, but I think every college QB does to some degree.

The MVFC has the best defenses in the country. He tore them up. Shit the Cats had a good D last year and he tore them up. Then played JMU and they couldn’t contain him. Didn’t seem like teams had an answer. When they tried to stop the run, he tore them up passing. Try to contain the pass and he tore them up running.

I guess I just don’t think about Trey Lance as much as you do. I don’t follow Bizon football as closely as you do, but I’ve read stuff about locking onto a receiver, less than stellar footwork in the pocket, and him benefitting from passing against a stacked box against 1-on-1 coverage most of the game since he only throws like 18 times per game (because the Bizon play such boring football).

The level of competition in his conference just isn’t where it needs to be for him to have proven himself as a top round draft pick.

Same things were said about Wentz....who went on to make an all pro team, set numerous NFL records etc.

Trey has inconsistent footwork at times. He has locked onto receiver at times. Overall though....phenomenal footwork. Great decision making.

Trevor Lawrence also locks onto receivers. He has inconsistent footwork.

Hell Andrew Luck was arguably the greatest QB prospect ever and he got critiqued for struggling at times. It takes QB’s years to develop

The largest issues with Trey is short term passing. He has missed easy throws at times...but he’s a freshman and overall his accuracy is far above average. He throws a tremendous deep ball and has a rocket for an arm.

The lock onto receivers comment is wrong. For a freshman, I’ve really never seen a better QB. He’s above where Wentz ever was in college....and Wentz went number 2

Trey’s an above average passer, but his athletic ability puts him as a first round pick. That’s equally as important in today’s NFL.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I guess I just don’t think about Trey Lance as much as you do. I don’t follow Bizon football as closely as you do, but I’ve read stuff about locking onto a receiver, less than stellar footwork in the pocket, and him benefitting from passing against a stacked box against 1-on-1 coverage most of the game since he only throws like 18 times per game (because the Bizon play such boring football).

The level of competition in his conference just isn’t where it needs to be for him to have proven himself as a top round draft pick.

Same things were said about Wentz....who went on to make an all pro team, set numerous NFL records etc.

Trey has inconsistent footwork at times. He has locked onto receiver at times. Overall though....phenomenal footwork. Great decision making.

Trevor Lawrence also locks onto receivers. He has inconsistent footwork.

Hell Andrew Luck was arguably the greatest QB prospect ever and he got critiqued for struggling at times. It takes QB’s years to develop

The largest issues with Trey is short term passing. He has missed easy throws at times...but he’s a freshman and overall his accuracy is far above average. He throws a tremendous deep ball and has a rocket for an arm.

The lock onto receivers comment is wrong. For a freshman, I’ve really never seen a better QB. He’s above where Wentz ever was in college....and Wentz went number 2

Trey’s an above average passer, but his athletic ability puts him as a first round pick. That’s equally as important in today’s NFL.

What's "short term" passing?
 
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