Hey Player Rep

[stubbins]

One would hope when drastic measures like this are taken, that people could have the ability to be the least bit introspective, but despite reality the mindset just continues.

Its like when all of this was happening I would hope for a statement from Pflugrad that No, we won't tolerate allegations like these in the Griz program, but I don't think there was such a public statement ever. And even after getting fired he actually believed that the one-quarter and other similar suspensions was meting discipline.

So myopic.

did you support bobby hauck keeping it "in house?"

 

[Growler1]

One would hope when drastic measures like this are taken, that people could have the ability to be the least bit introspective, but despite reality the mindset just continues.

Its like when all of this was happening I would hope for a statement from Pflugrad that No, we won't tolerate allegations like these in the Griz program, but I don't think there was such a public statement ever. And even after getting fired he actually believed that the one-quarter and other similar suspensions was meting discipline.

So myopic.

did you support bobby hauck keeping it "in house?"

As I have always said. When a coach speaks of "keeping it in house", he really means "sweeping it under the rug"

 

[Growler1]

Engstrom's going down. You heard it hear first. Ha-ha. Seriously, Engstrom is taking huge heat. Sorry to be offline for a bit, but my 90 year old mom isn't doing so well and was out of town with her and her docs.

Your access is gone, Jack. No amount of whining is going to change that fact. Stay away from our program while the responsible adults try to clean up the mess people like you helped create.

It's not your program, buster. I had communication with virtually all of the top athletic supporters and contributors, many in the athletic department and Engstrom. Also, all of the coaches. My access has actually improved.

Who did you communicate with?

You are cancer to the UM football program. I am going to do my best with Mr. Engstrom to limit your access to future athletic coaches and officials. If I have to donate a large sum of money to accomplish this, I will do so. In my opinion, YOU are the single most negative factor in cleaning up our one-sterling image.

I'm sure you are licking your chops at the opportunity to brown-nose the new AD and coach. I'm going to try to prevent that from happening.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Engstrom's going down. You heard it hear first. Ha-ha. Seriously, Engstrom is taking huge heat. Sorry to be offline for a bit, but my 90 year old mom isn't doing so well and was out of town with her and her docs.

Your access is gone, Jack. No amount of whining is going to change that fact. Stay away from our program while the responsible adults try to clean up the mess people like you helped create.

It's not your program, buster. I had communication with virtually all of the top athletic supporters and contributors, many in the athletic department and Engstrom. Also, all of the coaches. My access has actually improved.

Who did you communicate with?

You are cancer to the UM football program. I am going to do my best with Mr. Engstrom to limit your access to future athletic coaches and officials. If I have to donate a large sum of money to accomplish this, I will do so. In my opinion, YOU are the single most negative factor in cleaning up our one-sterling image.

I'm sure you are licking your chops at the opportunity to brown-nose the new AD and coach. I'm going to try to prevent that from happening.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, good LORD. :roll:

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Engstrom's going down. You heard it hear first. Ha-ha. Seriously, Engstrom is taking huge heat. Sorry to be offline for a bit, but my 90 year old mom isn't doing so well and was out of town with her and her docs.

Your access is gone, Jack. No amount of whining is going to change that fact. Stay away from our program while the responsible adults try to clean up the mess people like you helped create.

PLUS FU*KING 1!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumb:

 

[PDXGrizzly]

I tried to post this on the thread that was removed, but wasn't fast enough. Sorry!

We all rejoiced at every Griz win, ugly or not. However at times, the cost of victory was too high. The Football team and its supporters sacrificed the integrity of the program for wins. That is plain enough. I applaud U of M for taking the steps to clean up this mess, even though they are years late in being taken. It is tragic that the cost of the clean up is the jobs of the HC and the AC, but there are times when things like that are unavoidable. Regardless of whether or not the University is correct in letting Phlugrad and O'Day go, it is taking action (someone once told me that failure is compounded by inaction. If you are wrong and you still act, then you are doing at least one thing right). That action will help heal the black eye that the program has had for a while now.

As for Player Rep and company, I think that people misunderstand him. I'm not saying his point of view is correct, I am just saying that it is misunderstood. PR is an attorney. As such he has an instinct that tells him that someone is not guilty until proven as such, and that they should enjoy all the rights, freedoms, and privileges they have until such a time as they are proven guilty. That is PR's professional instinct coming out. His instinct as a lawyer is to look for holes in a story and turn them into reasonable doubt. That is being confused as being an apologist for what is undoubtedly one of the worst spats of student and staff misconduct in UM history. PR is passionate about football, and about the Griz. Like it or not we are all on the same team, we all want what is best for the University and what is best for the football team. We all have a vested interest in the University through our attendance, our donations, and our support.

That being said, I am very happy that UM is taking the necessary steps to clean up an image that has been drug through the mud. Even with the drama that is unfolding in Missoula and across Griz Nation, this is still the premiere program at the FCS level. This is the University of Montana and it is not the place to go to escape discipline, escape consequences, or escape obligations as a law abiding citizen. If anything the court of public opinion will hold everyone to a higher standard. It is high time that that very message was spoken loud and clear by the University, and I am personally glad that it stepped up and did so.

 

[Evizzerate]

Engstrom's going down. You heard it hear first. Ha-ha. Seriously, Engstrom is taking huge heat. Sorry to be offline for a bit, but my 90 year old mom isn't doing so well and was out of town with her and her docs.

Your access is gone, Jack. No amount of whining is going to change that fact. Stay away from our program while the responsible adults try to clean up the mess people like you helped create.

It's not your program, buster. I had communication with virtually all of the top athletic supporters and contributors, many in the athletic department and Engstrom. Also, all of the coaches. My access has actually improved.

Who did you communicate with?

You are cancer to the UM football program. I am going to do my best with Mr. Engstrom to limit your access to future athletic coaches and officials. If I have to donate a large sum of money to accomplish this, I will do so. In my opinion, YOU are the single most negative factor in cleaning up our one-sterling image.

I'm sure you are licking your chops at the opportunity to brown-nose the new AD and coach. I'm going to try to prevent that from happening.

An excellent idea.

 

[Growler1]

I tried to post this on the thread that was removed, but wasn't fast enough. Sorry!

We all rejoiced at every Griz win, ugly or not. However at times, the cost of victory was too high. The Football team and its supporters sacrificed the integrity of the program for wins. That is plain enough. I applaud U of M for taking the steps to clean up this mess, even though they are years late in being taken. It is tragic that the cost of the clean up is the jobs of the HC and the AC, but there are times when things like that are unavoidable. Regardless of whether or not the University is correct in letting Phlugrad and O'Day go, it is taking action (someone once told me that failure is compounded by inaction. If you are wrong and you still act, then you are doing at least one thing right). That action will help heal the black eye that the program has had for a while now.

As for Player Rep and company, I think that people misunderstand him. I'm not saying his point of view is correct, I am just saying that it is misunderstood. PR is an attorney. As such he has an instinct that tells him that someone is not guilty until proven as such, and that they should enjoy all the rights, freedoms, and privileges they have until such a time as they are proven guilty. That is PR's professional instinct coming out. His instinct as a lawyer is to look for holes in a story and turn them into reasonable doubt. That is being confused as being an apologist for what is undoubtedly one of the worst spats of student and staff misconduct in UM history. PR is passionate about football, and about the Griz. Like it or not we are all on the same team, we all want what is best for the University and what is best for the football team. We all have a vested interest in the University through our attendance, our donations, and our support.

That being said, I am very happy that UM is taking the necessary steps to clean up an image that has been drug through the mud. Even with the drama that is unfolding in Missoula and across Griz Nation, this is still the premiere program at the FCS level. This is the University of Montana and it is not the place to go to escape discipline, escape consequences, or escape obligations as a law abiding citizen. If anything the court of public opinion will hold everyone to a higher standard. It is high time that that very message was spoken loud and clear by the University, and I am personally glad that it stepped up and did so.

You are totally wrong about PR. Here is the real story.

He is not a UM grad, and has no reason to be as involved in our athletic program as he is. He is not even a real fan. Rather, he is a turncoat Bobcat fan, who dumped them when Montana started winning football games and gaining national prominence.

His "fandom" is thinly-veiled. His only reason for being a Griz fan is to try to be a big shot in town, jock-sniffing players, families of players, coaches, and athletic officials. Players and coaches laugh at him behind his back. He feeds his substantial ego by thinking that he is an insider, while they run from him every chance they get. And, if the Bobcats once again became the prominant team in the state, he would jump ship to their bandwagon faster than a Al Qaida member at Susan B. Koman rally.

 

[GrizLA]

I tried to post this on the thread that was removed, but wasn't fast enough. Sorry!

We all rejoiced at every Griz win, ugly or not. However at times, the cost of victory was too high. The Football team and its supporters sacrificed the integrity of the program for wins. That is plain enough. I applaud U of M for taking the steps to clean up this mess, even though they are years late in being taken. It is tragic that the cost of the clean up is the jobs of the HC and the AC, but there are times when things like that are unavoidable. Regardless of whether or not the University is correct in letting Phlugrad and O'Day go, it is taking action (someone once told me that failure is compounded by inaction. If you are wrong and you still act, then you are doing at least one thing right). That action will help heal the black eye that the program has had for a while now.

As for Player Rep and company, I think that people misunderstand him. I'm not saying his point of view is correct, I am just saying that it is misunderstood. PR is an attorney. As such he has an instinct that tells him that someone is not guilty until proven as such, and that they should enjoy all the rights, freedoms, and privileges they have until such a time as they are proven guilty. That is PR's professional instinct coming out. His instinct as a lawyer is to look for holes in a story and turn them into reasonable doubt. That is being confused as being an apologist for what is undoubtedly one of the worst spats of student and staff misconduct in UM history. PR is passionate about football, and about the Griz. Like it or not we are all on the same team, we all want what is best for the University and what is best for the football team. We all have a vested interest in the University through our attendance, our donations, and our support.

That being said, I am very happy that UM is taking the necessary steps to clean up an image that has been drug through the mud. Even with the drama that is unfolding in Missoula and across Griz Nation, this is still the premiere program at the FCS level. This is the University of Montana and it is not the place to go to escape discipline, escape consequences, or escape obligations as a law abiding citizen. If anything the court of public opinion will hold everyone to a higher standard. It is high time that that very message was spoken loud and clear by the University, and I am personally glad that it stepped up and did so.

You are totally wrong about PR. Here is the real story.

He is not a UM grad, and has no reason to be as involved in our athletic program as he is. He is not even a real fan. Rather, he is a turncoat Bobcat fan, who dumped them when Montana started winning football games and gaining national prominence.

His "fandom" is thinly-veiled. His only reason for being a Griz fan is to try to be a big shot in town, jock-sniffing players, families of players, coaches, and athletic officials. Players and coaches laugh at him behind his back. He feeds his substantial ego by thinking that he is an insider, while they run from him every chance they get. And, if the Bobcats once again became the prominant team in the state, he would jump ship to their bandwagon faster than a Al Qaida member at Susan B. Koman rally.

buddy, you should stop posting after half a fifth....you have some real issues, just like the guy you are trying to put down...

 

[PTGrizzly]

Engstrom's going down. You heard it hear first. Ha-ha. Seriously, Engstrom is taking huge heat. Sorry to be offline for a bit, but my 90 year old mom isn't doing so well and was out of town with her and her docs.

Your access is gone, Jack. No amount of whining is going to change that fact. Stay away from our program while the responsible adults try to clean up the mess people like you helped create.

It's not your program, buster. I had communication with virtually all of the top athletic supporters and contributors, many in the athletic department and Engstrom. Also, all of the coaches. My access has actually improved.

Who did you communicate with?

You are cancer to the UM football program. I am going to do my best with Mr. Engstrom to limit your access to future athletic coaches and officials. If I have to donate a large sum of money to accomplish this, I will do so. In my opinion, YOU are the single most negative factor in cleaning up our one-sterling image.

I'm sure you are licking your chops at the opportunity to brown-nose the new AD and coach. I'm going to try to prevent that from happening.

Apparently you're not seeing the irony of calling PR a brown-noser and a pretentious douchebag when you're doing the exact same thing here. Talking about how you can talk to Engstrom personally and donate a lot of money. You're doing the exact same thing, you guys just have a difference of opinion on everything, but other than that, you're the same person.

 

[Grizbacker1]

Engstrom's going down. You heard it hear first. Ha-ha. Seriously, Engstrom is taking huge heat. Sorry to be offline for a bit, but my 90 year old mom isn't doing so well and was out of town with her and her docs.

Your access is gone, Jack. No amount of whining is going to change that fact. Stay away from our program while the responsible adults try to clean up the mess people like you helped create.

It's not your program, buster. I had communication with virtually all of the top athletic supporters and contributors, many in the athletic department and Engstrom. Also, all of the coaches. My access has actually improved.

Who did you communicate with?

You are cancer to the UM football program. I am going to do my best with Mr. Engstrom to limit your access to future athletic coaches and officials. If I have to donate a large sum of money to accomplish this, I will do so. In my opinion, YOU are the single most negative factor in cleaning up our one-sterling image.

I'm sure you are licking your chops at the opportunity to brown-nose the new AD and coach. I'm going to try to prevent that from happening.

Well if it isn't the short little prick named SteveDill calling the kettle black. If you really did give some $$ it would be the fist pfucking time. As others have said, you are just like the person you are ripping on, except compared to you, he does have access. we all know you have to rent bartenders to pretend to like your chump old ass. please change your screenname to Aesop, it is much for fitting for a pathological liar such as yourself. :loser:

 

[exsaint]

NorthwestFresh seriously get back to 7 eleven and get your job finished for the day. You seem to be a wanna-be with no means. Human nature holds resentment for those who have the ability while one doesn't. Hang in there kid and continue to get pissed at player rep and others on the board while your inner-peace eats you up.

 

[EnlightenedDespot]

Haha. I picture PlayerRep as the Nevin Shapiro of the Montana football program after reading his schtick. Hilarious.

 

[MrTitleist]