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grizfan47 said:
When the Cats were within the five yard looking to score there was not a doubt in my mind that they would. With their O line and Anderson running you knew they would blow it up and score. When we had the ball in the same area it was a real crap shoot if we would score. Not to say we wouldn't but I was not as certain. I have no doubt that Hauck will get the line and the bruiser of a running back where there will be no doubt that we will blow you up even if you know we are going to do it.

i thought we'd have a better chance with pass play honestly. if nothings there let dalton run it in.
 
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.
 
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.
Yeah, teams like Alabama and NDSU are a thing of the past. :roll:
 
The.Real.2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.
Yeah, teams like Alabama and NDSU are a thing of the past. :roll:

The obvious outliers, of course. But even those teams are hardly 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
 
EverettGriz said:
The.Real.2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.
Yeah, teams like Alabama and NDSU are a thing of the past. :roll:

The obvious outliers, of course. But even those teams are hardly 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
Are you saying that those teams do NOT play a very physical brand of football.

Physical football doesnt necessarly mean 3 yards and a cloud of dust
 
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.

If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.
 
Mousegriz said:
An observation I've had.......Griz final drive begins at 50 after good return. Then a 15 yard pass play (1st down), then 8 yard pass followed by 7 yard run (1st down), incomplete pass (the only -0- yard play absent the final fumble), then 11 yard pass (1st down) 5 yard run to the 4, 3 yard run to the one (4 inch!)....then....SHTF!

Griz sure moved the ball against a "more physical" Bobcat defense on a lot of plays in that final drive. Know the Griz needed a TD so anything short of that wasn't a success but doubt that more physical defense wanted to get themselves into the position they did.

Another ironic observation from the play by play above......yards gained total 50 and Griz started at the 50! Damn BSC refs!

The Cats defense did not play well as a unit at all in Missoula on Saturday.

However, when I talk about the Cats being the more physical team, I have the offenses mind much more than the defenses.
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.

If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a fucking yard.
 
EverettGriz said:
The.Real.2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.
Yeah, teams like Alabama and NDSU are a thing of the past. :roll:

The obvious outliers, of course. But even those teams are hardly 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

Outliers hosting trophies....
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.

If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a fucking yard.

Don't you get it?! Being physical isn't about toughness and desire. It's about some other value that only PlayerRep can see from the sidelines! Lol.
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.

If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a f***[*] yard.
It was more like a f****** half of a foot. I think they were maybe a bit more physical on the defensive side this year but the offense not so much. Watching that replay pretty much illustrates how bad the o line play was this year. I don’t believe it would have made much of a difference if Snead would have been under center. They would have just pinched down and probably got to Snead before he could hand it off or stuffed him if he had tried to sneak. However, I do think the starting rb from last year would have had the best shot of getting in because of his experience, skill set and physicality, even with the o line was getting totally blown up. A fullback might have helped also. Smh
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.

If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a f***[*] yard.

That was one play. Our guard got beat. This happens sometimes. If Eastwood hadn't fumbled, Griz would have scored on next play and won.

Please don't tell me you judge the Griz season, or team, or o-line, by one play.

Regarding toughness, you of all people don't have a clue what toughness is. Aren't you pretty much a wimp?
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.

If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a f***[*] yard.

That was one play. Our guard got beat. This happens sometimes. If Eastwood hadn't fumbled, Griz would have scored on next play and won.

Please don't tell me you judge the Griz season, or team, or o-line, by one play.

Regarding toughness, you of all people don't have a clue what toughness is. Aren't you pretty much a wimp?

But, it WAS the one play that really mattered.
 
You just have to get that ball in the end zone if you're going to say we were a tough and physical team. There are no excuses. On to next year. I think we look pretty good with like 18 returning starters. Assuming they stick around, of course.
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
I’be heard many argue this team was LESS physical than last year’s. They — rightfully — say we couldn’t get a yard on 3rd or 4th and one all year. And that’s ALL about toughness. That’s ALL about desire, about moving the guy across from you off the LOS juuuust enough to allow the ball carrier to get a yard, even if that guy is better than you.

That all said, I’m not sure why getting more physical is necessarily a step in the right direction. I guess it is if you want to play smash mouth, but that style of football is a dying breed.

If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a f***[*] yard.

That was one play. Our guard got beat. This happens sometimes. If Eastwood hadn't fumbled, Griz would have scored on next play and won.

Please don't tell me you judge the Griz season, or team, or o-line, by one play.

Regarding toughness, you of all people don't have a clue what toughness is. Aren't you pretty much a wimp?

PR, this team couldn’t get a yard on third and fourth and short all year.

And wow, look at the old, fat “tough guy” calling someone a wimp on a message board. God god, you are pathetic.

But if you’d ever like to discuss toughness in person, I’d be more than pleased. Perhaps you can ask someone for assistance in tying your shoes so you can leave the house, since you are clearly unable to see around your big, fat gut in order to tie them yourself.
 
Turnovers are a killer. It is frustrating to think that we were 3 turnovers away from being 9-2 & 6-2.

The games I am thinking about are Western Illinois, Portland State and Montana State.
AND if....... and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a Merry Christmas. :o
 
'68griz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a f***[*] yard.

That was one play. Our guard got beat. This happens sometimes. If Eastwood hadn't fumbled, Griz would have scored on next play and won.

Please don't tell me you judge the Griz season, or team, or o-line, by one play.

Regarding toughness, you of all people don't have a clue what toughness is. Aren't you pretty much a wimp?

But, it WAS the one play that really mattered.

No, lots of plays mattered. And one play doesn't define whether a team is physical or tough. Sorry, it just doesn't.
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
If you are listening to people who think this year's team was less physical, then that may explain some of posts you make, and the crazy thinks you say sometimes. This year's team was much more physical than last year's team. As for the o-line, this year's o-line was not as good as last year's o-line, due to lack of experience, youth and perhaps more. Last year's o-line had 4 senior starters. This year's didn't eventually even have the services of the one returning starter, who was hurt. This year's o-line was starting 2 redshirt frosh, 2 walk-ons, and a player who didn't switch to o-lineman until after pre-season started. He was strong for his size, but very undersized. Obviously, very inexperienced.

No, opening holes is not all about toughness and desire. Those things help, but it is also about other things, including skill, experience, size, strength, mobility and scheme.

Too bad all that physicalness couldn't get a f***[*] yard.

That was one play. Our guard got beat. This happens sometimes. If Eastwood hadn't fumbled, Griz would have scored on next play and won.

Please don't tell me you judge the Griz season, or team, or o-line, by one play.

Regarding toughness, you of all people don't have a clue what toughness is. Aren't you pretty much a wimp?

PR, this team couldn’t get a yard on third and fourth and short all year.

And wow, look at the old, fat “tough guy” calling someone a wimp on a message board. God god, you are pathetic.

But if you’d ever like to discuss toughness in person, I’d be more than pleased. Perhaps you can ask someone for assistance in tying your shoes so you can leave the house, since you are clearly unable to see around your big, fat gut in order to tie them yourself.

UM had trouble on 3d/4th and short early in the season but improved. Jeez, UM had just "scored" on a short run on the play in which the TO was called. What do you mean that UM couldn't pick up a yard?

Happy to meet up with you anytime. I know you don't have a clue about football, as multiple people have told me that, including some from the athletic department. I can see it in your posts, almost none of which have substance in them. I just tore apart you silly post in this thread. Would love to see the guy who claims that being a run of mill intramural type tennis player is being "nationally ranked". Talk about pathetic.
 
It mattered. A lot. We would’ve made the playoffs due to losses by North Dakota and Idaho State. The fact Northern Iowa got in is further proof we make the field.

That play or series of events will go down as one of the biggest and most memorable plays in not just Griz-cat history, but Big Sky history. Trying to minimize it in any way is a form of denial.
 
PR, you are a little, little man, with a serious inferiority complex.

And we've had this discussion repeatedly, but yes once again, I am nationally ranked. Fell a tie-break short in the West Regionals of a trip to the USTA Nationals this season. I'll update you on my ranking mid-December when the final 2018 rankings are released.



How DO you tie your shoes, anyhow?
 
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