Hauck contract

[AZGrizFan]

It's a not-for-profit cooperative. We didn't "cost" anybody anything.

....and there it is. The boilerplate retort all good CU Execs have in their bag.

Just messing with you. Carry on.

lol. "boilerplate", but true.

 

[Missoula223]

Where in any of your posts did you provide your support?

I am making an educated guess because when you are in the last year of your contract as a football coach, you sign a new contract. Are you that stupid that you don’t understand that?

Perfect. And I’m just supposed to assume that you are the most connected person in all of Montana athletics? Are you secretly Dennis Washington?

"Kent would like to do an extension but Bobby wants options."

This was previously posted. "Bobby is highly regarded at UM and in many circles, and we're lucky to have him because others would like to hire him away including the NFL. Remember, in Bobby 1.0, he was offered long-term deals but preferred one-year contracts. We are working on it.”

When Brint gets back in town, I will show him the texts and sender, and he can verify. Brint is aware of this, and more.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

So what Hoops wants us to believe is that Bobby is choosing to start the season without signing a mythical contract that is good enough to keep him from pursuing NFL coaching opportunities that pay three times as much. Really? After the success of Bobby 1.0 he was only able to muster enough interest to get a job at lowly UNLV and after getting fired due to lack of success and the most recent results of this Bobby 2.0 run he’s now a hot commodity for an NFL job? Interesting spin.

 

[Missoula223]

Where in any of your posts did you provide your support?

I am making an educated guess because when you are in the last year of your contract as a football coach, you sign a new contract. Are you that stupid that you don’t understand that?

Perfect. And I’m just supposed to assume that you are the most connected person in all of Montana athletics? Are you secretly Dennis Washington?

"Kent would like to do an extension but Bobby wants options."

This was previously posted. "Bobby is highly regarded at UM and in many circles, and we're lucky to have him because others would like to hire him away including the NFL. Remember, in Bobby 1.0, he was offered long-term deals but preferred one-year contracts. We are working on it.”

When Brint gets back in town, I will show him the texts and sender, and he can verify. Brint is aware of this, and more.

Look I’m not trying to continue to be disrespectful, but what Haslem says and what goes on can be 2 very different things. This tenure for Hauck is different for 2 reasons. 1, he hasn’t had the same success he had in the first go around. Irrefutable. And I hope that changes. 2, the money that is in college football has rocketed since his first tenure. A large FCS buyout wouldn’t matter to any school or NFL team that he could possibly go work for. Bobby is very connected and has had many options and I am well aware of a few in particular. But 1 year deals are useless more so now in CFB than they were 15 years ago.

If Bobby had an extension offered to him, he would sign it. They’re not going to low ball him, at worst, it would be the same salary. There is no reason in the world for the reason I stated above that he wouldn’t. If a coach gets offered an extension with a low buyout (which there’s no way UM would have a large buyout), they take it. He can always renegotiate if he has a successful season. Happens all the time. Lane Kiffin has signed an extension I think the last 2 years for sure.

If Haslem were working on a contract why now? You run the risk of extending him, having a down year, and looking like an idiot for extending a guy that was in decline. Again, I hope that’s not the case. I like Hauck and haslem. But thats the reality of the situation. If an extension were to occur, it would be at the latest this summer. If Hauck starts 6/7-0? Then yeah you extend the guy and try and raise the buyout were he to look at another job.

Coaches state publicly that they are excited about their coach one day and fire them the next. Most ADs, especially the good ones, don’t even tell their closest friends about how they truly feel about the state of the program. Bobby is very highly regarded and should be. But based on the numbers I provided earlier and a rough season that I doesn’t happen, you can’t possibly disagree that feelings towards the subject may change, can you? Do you think a 6-5 team gets Hauck an extension?

 

[mthoopsfan]

"Kent would like to do an extension but Bobby wants options."

This was previously posted. "Bobby is highly regarded at UM and in many circles, and we're lucky to have him because others would like to hire him away including the NFL. Remember, in Bobby 1.0, he was offered long-term deals but preferred one-year contracts. We are working on it.”

When Brint gets back in town, I will show him the texts and sender, and he can verify. Brint is aware of this, and more.

Look I’m not trying to continue to be disrespectful, but what Haslem says and what goes on can be 2 very different things. This tenure for Hauck is different for 2 reasons. 1, he hasn’t had the same success he had in the first go around. Irrefutable. And I hope that changes. 2, the money that is in college football has rocketed since his first tenure. A large FCS buyout wouldn’t matter to any school or NFL team that he could possibly go work for. Bobby is very connected and has had many options and I am well aware of a few in particular. But 1 year deals are useless more so now in CFB than they were 15 years ago.

If Bobby had an extension offered to him, he would sign it. They’re not going to low ball him, at worst, it would be the same salary. There is no reason in the world for the reason I stated above that he wouldn’t. If a coach gets offered an extension with a low buyout (which there’s no way UM would have a large buyout), they take it. He can always renegotiate if he has a successful season. Happens all the time. Lane Kiffin has signed an extension I think the last 2 years for sure.

If Haslem were working on a contract why now? You run the risk of extending him, having a down year, and looking like an idiot for extending a guy that was in decline. Again, I hope that’s not the case. I like Hauck and haslem. But thats the reality of the situation. If an extension were to occur, it would be at the latest this summer. If Hauck starts 6/7-0? Then yeah you extend the guy and try and raise the buyout were he to look at another job.

Coaches state publicly that they are excited about their coach one day and fire them the next. Most ADs, especially the good ones, don’t even tell their closest friends about how they truly feel about the state of the program. Bobby is very highly regarded and should be. But based on the numbers I provided earlier and a rough season that I doesn’t happen, you can’t possibly disagree that feelings towards the subject may change, can you? Do you think a 6-5 team gets Hauck an extension?

You are wrong. You value your opinion more facts. Bobby doesn’t have to accept ever offer, or any offer. He can always accept later. Haslam isn’t going to withdraw the an offer. And you have no sources, at least in this.

 

[Missoula223]

Look I’m not trying to continue to be disrespectful, but what Haslem says and what goes on can be 2 very different things. This tenure for Hauck is different for 2 reasons. 1, he hasn’t had the same success he had in the first go around. Irrefutable. And I hope that changes. 2, the money that is in college football has rocketed since his first tenure. A large FCS buyout wouldn’t matter to any school or NFL team that he could possibly go work for. Bobby is very connected and has had many options and I am well aware of a few in particular. But 1 year deals are useless more so now in CFB than they were 15 years ago.

If Bobby had an extension offered to him, he would sign it. They’re not going to low ball him, at worst, it would be the same salary. There is no reason in the world for the reason I stated above that he wouldn’t. If a coach gets offered an extension with a low buyout (which there’s no way UM would have a large buyout), they take it. He can always renegotiate if he has a successful season. Happens all the time. Lane Kiffin has signed an extension I think the last 2 years for sure.

If Haslem were working on a contract why now? You run the risk of extending him, having a down year, and looking like an idiot for extending a guy that was in decline. Again, I hope that’s not the case. I like Hauck and haslem. But thats the reality of the situation. If an extension were to occur, it would be at the latest this summer. If Hauck starts 6/7-0? Then yeah you extend the guy and try and raise the buyout were he to look at another job.

Coaches state publicly that they are excited about their coach one day and fire them the next. Most ADs, especially the good ones, don’t even tell their closest friends about how they truly feel about the state of the program. Bobby is very highly regarded and should be. But based on the numbers I provided earlier and a rough season that I doesn’t happen, you can’t possibly disagree that feelings towards the subject may change, can you? Do you think a 6-5 team gets Hauck an extension?

You are wrong. You value your opinion more facts. Bobby doesn’t have to accept ever offer, or any offer. He can always accept later. Haslam isn’t going to withdraw the an offer. And you have no sources, at least in this.

Since you are so close to Bobby, ask him personally why he wont accept the offer then. Maybe video it so he can give his reason to you and you can post it on here.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You are wrong. You value your opinion more facts. Bobby doesn’t have to accept ever offer, or any offer. He can always accept later. Haslam isn’t going to withdraw the an offer. And you have no sources, at least in this.

Since you are so close to Bobby, ask him personally why he wont accept the offer then. Maybe video it so he can give his reason to you and you can post it on here.

I did. I can’t figure out how to post the video. Ha.

So much for your vast knowledge of football and sources. You are a fraud.

 

[Raider]

....and there it is. The boilerplate retort all good CU Execs have in their bag.

Just messing with you. Carry on.

lol. "boilerplate", but true.

Ok, I can’t help myself now.

Credit Unions’ income tax exemption is by far the largest swindle in US History. There isn’t anything even close. The most recent estimate I saw was app. $400 billion in unpaid taxes nationwide on an annual basis.

Credit Unions were granted tax exemption nearly a century ago, serving a “public good” for providing credit and savings needs for “persons of modest means”. Today they compete for every line of business with community banks, including large commercial and commercial real estate loans. However, the lobbyist power will forever prevent them from being taxed, as they should. I have personally spoken with two US Senators as part of a trade association. They all acknowledge this is a no-fly zone.
Again, the largest scam in US History, and the bizarre part is that the average consumer doesn’t even know about it.

Nothing personal. You seem like a good dude and are probably very good at your job. I’d take the same position if I was in your shoes. Last you'll hear from me on the matter.

 

[AZGrizFan]

lol. "boilerplate", but true.

Ok, I can’t help myself now.

Credit Unions’ income tax exemption is by far the largest swindle in US History. There isn’t anything even close. The most recent estimate I saw was app. $400 billion in unpaid taxes nationwide on an annual basis.

Credit Unions were granted tax exemption nearly a century ago, serving a “public good” for providing credit and savings needs for “persons of modest means”. Today they compete for every line of business with community banks, including large commercial and commercial real estate loans. However, the lobbyist power will forever prevent them from being taxed, as they should. I have personally spoken with two US Senators as part of a trade association. They all acknowledge this is a no-fly zone.
Again, the largest scam in US History, and the bizarre part is that the average consumer doesn’t even know about it.

Nothing personal. You seem like a good dude and are probably very good at your job. I’d take the same position if I was in your shoes. Last you'll hear from me on the matter.

THAT'S IT, BUB. THE GLOVES ARE OFF NOW AS I CLIMB UP ONTO MY LITTLE SOAP BOX (paid for by your tax dollars):

First off, you sound like a bitter banker. :lol: :lol: :lol: And hey, I didn't set this format up, but as long as it exists, we'll leverage it...it's not a "scam", unless you don't like "the little guy"...for example, our average commercial loan is $2.4 million--hardly "large". Our average purchase money mortgage is $214,000--well, well below the median cost for a new home just about anywhere in America--they ain't buying mansions, bro. We are truly helping the person of average means that's been abandoned by traditional banks.

CU's DO pay some taxes...just not the traditional "T" in EBITDA...and I beg to differ, it's not a scam because we return that "value" back to our members in the form of higher savings/CD rates and lower loan rates. We "cooperate" with other credit unions to pool resources and provide things like shared branching networks and fee-free shared ATM networks across the country. We have UNPAID VOLUNTEERS (who are all members) that sit on our board, supervisory committee, finance committee, etc. (unlike banks, whose highly paid boards are made up of their top shareholders--Wells Fargo alone paid board members $5.37 million in 2018). Plus, we'd never even contemplate doing things to our members like Wells Fargo does/did to their customers, we know our members and they're treated like human beings, and each branch is like its own little financial institution...

The beautiful thing about CU's is that, while we have to MAKE some money because of minimum capital requirements, money is NOT our top driver. We don't have a share price to consider or prop up, and we don't have stockholders. Can you find higher CD rates out there? Sure...but compared overall and outside of "Internet Only" banks, we blow traditional retail banks like Chase, Wells and B of A out of the water from a pricing standpoint. That's what you're able to do when you have OWNERS instead of shareholders driving corporate value.

And yet, despite all those financial advantages and despite the fact that over 135,000,000 Americans are credit union members, CU's still only make up about 11% of the market. To give you a sense of the difference in scale, my CU is top 15 in the WORLD in asset size...and B of A's earnings ALONE in the first half of the year were equal to our entire asset size.

So yeah, cry me a river about all the "lost revenue" and swindle that's going on...

Okay, return to your regularly scheduled programming bitching about Hauck's contract...

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Sounds exactly like what a scammer would say…

 

[bgbigdog]

Sounds exactly like what a scammer would say…

Clearly so…

 

[EverettGriz]

There are a number of absolutely wonderful aspects of eGriz. But perhaps the most enjoyable is that each morning as one signs on, a person has -- quite literally -- no fucking idea what they are about to read. I mean, simply consider for the sake of argument: what kind of Vegas odds could you get on reading a discussion regarding taxation of banks vs. credit unions on a college football sports board?

Terrific, I tell ya. Terrific.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

If this latest churning of the coaches doesnt work out, how can you blame anyone else other than Bobby?

He got rehired, most were happy. He ran it back with all of his old friends as coaches. Some had questions some were happy. They had some success but no deep runs, lost a few to the cats. So he turns over the coaching staff again. If this doesnt work whats left??? We dont have any more coaches to reshuffle.

If this doesnt work its on nobody but Bobby its been his program again long enough. Success under Bobby is a blast, but when you get mediocracy under Bobby his talking and arrogance get old fast. It is truly put up or shut up time for Hauck.

I don't think there was big turnover in the coaches. Two older guys retired. One OC moved to analyst. There was considerable reshuffling too. I agree that, on coaches, there would be no one to blame except Bobby. I've been told the players like the new coaches and reshuffling.

I don't agree that being ranked an average of no. 5 in FCS over the past 3 years of post-season polls, playoffs each of last 3 years and wins each year, and two 10 win seasons is mediocrity.

Most programs no. That’s an accomplishment. At Montana it’s mediocracy.

 

[AZGrizFan]

There are a number of absolutely wonderful aspects of eGriz. But perhaps the most enjoyable is that each morning as one signs on, a person has -- quite literally -- no fucking idea what they are about to read. I mean, simply consider for the sake of argument: what kind of Vegas odds could you get on reading a discussion regarding taxation of banks vs. credit unions on a college football sports board?

Terrific, I tell ya. Terrific.

You're welcome. My bill is forthcoming.

 

[craigsmith89]

He fractured his back… he hasn’t been doing anything in camp from what I’ve seen.

 

[kemajic]

He fractured his back… he hasn’t been doing anything in camp from what I’ve seen.

Huh?

 

[CatsRback]

There are a number of absolutely wonderful aspects of eGriz. But perhaps the most enjoyable is that each morning as one signs on, a person has -- quite literally -- no fudge idea what they are about to read. I mean, simply consider for the sake of argument: what kind of Vegas odds could you get on reading a discussion regarding taxation of banks vs. credit unions on a college football sports board?

Terrific, I tell ya. Terrific.

The wonderful things seen on this page are incredible!!!

 

[3-7-77]

Well, now I'm educated about everything I never cared about regarding credit unions.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Well, now I'm educated about everything I never cared about regarding credit unions.

well, you SHOULD care. Banks are robbing you blind.

You're welcome for the PSA. :thumb:

 

[Raider]

Well, now I'm educated about everything I never cared about regarding credit unions.

well, you SHOULD care. Banks are robbing you blind.

You're welcome for the PSA. :thumb:

Talk about a PSA....

Just this week we lost a $1.5MM commercial loan to a CU in Colorado, on a property in Kalispell. They offered a ridiculous rate for this environment. Hmm, I wonder how they were able to do that. This borrower has cash flow thru the roof, and a multi-million dollar net worth. Yeah, just the type of client that CU’s were given tax exemption to serve, right? What a joke.

My company has been serving Montana communities for over a 100 years. We operate in several economically “challenged” markets where we’d be instantly more profitable to pull out of. But, we’ve made a commitment to those communities through thick and thin.

And, wouldn’t you know it, we pay our taxes too. How novel.