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Harsh reality on roster changes

horribilisfan8184 said:
My dad would have told an "Ombudsman" or anyone else in the recruiting process we didn't invite into the circle of trust to butt out.
When you own your own private team, you can do that.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grzz said:
I think that he can explain this as having his player's backs fairly easily. And before you jump all over this and say he is cutting kids in the first place. That happens at every college team in America every year.

Let your Stitt hate shine through.
It's an issue nationwide. This recent event just happens to be a good example. You take the side of a coach who you seem to claim can do no wrong. I am taking the side of the athletes, on something that ought to be straightforward, and for which people like you can only resort to ad hominem attacks rather than simply acknowledge: properly handled, we didn't need to have this ridiculous conversation. Let your player hate shine through.

See how that works?

Oh cut the shit 75. You are such a pathetic troll anymore. What the hell happened?

I never said anything that hated the players. It is amazing how many people have called you out on your clear anti-Stitt bias and yet you just ignore it. Just continue on, not actually answering questions, and pretend that you didn't say things you previously did, and on and on.
 
grzz said:
Oh cut the shit 75. You are such a pathetic troll anymore. What the hell happened?

I never said anything that hated the players. It is amazing how many people have called you out on your clear anti-Stitt bias and yet you just ignore it.
I'm looking at the behavior of a petulant coach. It's not my opinion. It's out there for all to see. I can call you names all day, just as well as you can call me names. How about cut the attitude -- the "shit" -- and stick to actual issues.
 
So, UM75, no smack intended here. You posted earlier that Stitt violated the terms of his contract. What is your next course of action? Are you in contact with the university? Haslam? Are you starting a petition for his removal? I'm curious as to what action you are taking against Stitt given you seem pretty passionate about it/ Are you going public? Have you been in contact with local media outlets? Anything? If you truly believe all you are posting, you won't accomplish anything on Egriz. Would you at least care to share your course of actions with us though?
 
havgrizfan said:
So, UM75, no smack intended here. You posted earlier that Stitt violated the terms of his contract. What is your next course of action?
Didn't say that. Please don't fabricate controversies. Aren't there enough legitimate ones?
 
No, cutting players and not announcing those cuts is not a controversy or a violation. But you did post that above. Or at least suggested it. So, I'm guessing much like not answering who you think should be the Griz' starter, you are not going to answer my question above either? Par for the course.
 
havgrizfan said:
No, cutting players and not announcing those cuts is not a controversy or a violation.
Again, you carefully change the issue to suit your own agenda. Grow up. Throwing a fit at a press conference is embarrassing to the University. Not all of the public is impervious to what is before your eyes as you are.

I have the same reasoning here as I did for the treatment of Coach Ash; you just treat people better, and especially the players. My objections to the way Ash was treated had nothing to do with an anti-Stitt attitude, and neither does this. It is to the fact of a petulant sounding coach who could have avoided all of this, and refused to do so, and a coach who refused to protect his players from inevitable speculation and gossip.

I have used the word "pro-active." Times are changing, and fast. Get on the train or get off.
 
UMGriz75 said:
havgrizfan said:
No, cutting players and not announcing those cuts is not a controversy or a violation.
Again, you carefully change the issue to suit your own agenda. Grow up. Throwing a fit at a press conference is embarrassing to the University. Not all of the public is impervious to what is before your eyes as you are.

I have the same reasoning here as I did for the treatment of Coach Ash; you just treat people better, and especially the players. My objections to the way Ash was treated had nothing to do with an anti-Stitt attitude, and neither does this. It is to the fact of a petulant sounding coach who could have avoided all of this, and refused to do so, and a coach who refused to protect his players from inevitable speculation and gossip.

I have used the word "pro-active." Time are changing, and fast. Get on the train or get off.

I watched the press conference, and it didn't occur to me to characterize it as a "fit" or "tantrum". I saw a coach who passionately cares about his players upset that the press leaked inaccurate information. The coach has a pulse. Good! :clap:

As for Pflug, getting his freedom was the best thing that could have happened to him. He didn't come here to sit.
 
Grizz Man said:
I watched the press conference, and it didn't occur to me to characterize it as a "fit" or "tantrum". I saw a coach who passionately cares about his players upset that the press leaked inaccurate information. The coach has a pulse.
You do understand that not everyone wears maroon colored glasses? Stiit was the source of the problem. Notably, no one misquoted Bob Stitt. They couldn't.
 
havgrizfan said:
So again, I ask, what are you doing to be pro-active? Contact Haslem? Local media outlets, Engstrom, what?
Well, "proactive" is the job of the people ... with the job. You might have missed that little detail. You do know what the definition of "proactive" is, don't you? It is solving the problem before it starts, not pointing it out afterwards. This may be part of the problem you have understanding this. You don't even understand the problem.
 
75, thank you. That's all I asked was what you are doing about all of these wrong's you feel Stitt is doing to the program. Thank you for finally answering my question.
 
Hey, where is getgrizzy? This thread is turning into the Krakauer Book thread right before our eyes. I have no opinion on Stitt's press conference other then maybe he looked and acted like he was kinda inexperienced. But give it to '75. He just calmly answers everyone's
challenges in his normal, well thought out, cool and collected way.......
 
UMGriz75 said:
Grizz Man said:
I watched the press conference, and it didn't occur to me to characterize it as a "fit" or "tantrum". I saw a coach who passionately cares about his players upset that the press leaked inaccurate information. The coach has a pulse.
You do understand that not everyone wears maroon colored glasses? Stiit was the source of the problem. Notably, no one misquoted Bob Stitt. They couldn't.

I understand that it was a tough pill for the players who were let go, but I don't see a pain-free way that it could have been handled. If I were a player, I wouldn't have wanted a public announcement that I had been cut. That's just me...

By the time the spring roster is announced these guys will probably have new teams lined up. Would have been a good way to save face. By telling them early, Coach is giving them a chance to contact other teams that could be interested.

:coffee:
 
CV Griz Fan said:
Hey, where is getgrizzy? This thread is turning into the Krakauer Book thread right before our eyes. I have no opinion on Stitt's press conference other then maybe he looked and acted like he was kinda inexperienced. But give it to '75. He just calmly answers everyone's
challenges in his normal, well thought out, cool and collected way.......

Is that so... I've never read one of his novel. But will keep an eye out now. Thanks.
 
havgrizfan said:
No, cutting players and not announcing those cuts is not a controversy or a violation. But you did post that above. Or at least suggested it. So, I'm guessing much like not answering who you think should be the Griz' starter, you are not going to answer my question above either? Par for the course.

He suggests many things and then tries to back pedal...
 
UMGriz75 said:
havgrizfan said:
No, cutting players and not announcing those cuts is not a controversy or a violation.
Again, you carefully change the issue to suit your own agenda. Grow up. Throwing a fit at a press conference is embarrassing to the University. Not all of the public is impervious to what is before your eyes as you are.

I have the same reasoning here as I did for the treatment of Coach Ash; you just treat people better, and especially the players. My objections to the way Ash was treated had nothing to do with an anti-Stitt attitude, and neither does this. It is to the fact of a petulant sounding coach who could have avoided all of this, and refused to do so, and a coach who refused to protect his players from inevitable speculation and gossip.

I have used the word "pro-active." Time are changing, and fast. Get on the train or get off.

You mean getting angry that the media is reporting inaccurate information.....I don't think he embarrassed himself or the university by calling out the media....of course you being a former member of the media makes you biased...
 
UMGriz75 said:
Grizz Man said:
I watched the press conference, and it didn't occur to me to characterize it as a "fit" or "tantrum". I saw a coach who passionately cares about his players upset that the press leaked inaccurate information. The coach has a pulse.
You do understand that not everyone wears maroon colored glasses? Stiit was the source of the problem. Notably, no one misquoted Bob Stitt. They couldn't.

No, the media was the problem by reporting inaccurate information...once again biased...
 
grizindabox said:
UMGriz75 said:
Grizz Man said:
I watched the press conference, and it didn't occur to me to characterize it as a "fit" or "tantrum". I saw a coach who passionately cares about his players upset that the press leaked inaccurate information. The coach has a pulse.
You do understand that not everyone wears maroon colored glasses? Stiit was the source of the problem. Notably, no one misquoted Bob Stitt. They couldn't.

No, the media was the problem by reporting inaccurate information...once again biased...
This is avoidance combined with studied ignorance. Had he issued the press release, there would have been no speculation, no inaccurate reporting and no controversy. That's the bottom line. Providing information and managing it properly is now the job of every coach, administrator, etc. Grow up and enter the modern age. Like it or not, that's the reality. Treat everyone right, and weeks like this don't happen.
 
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