Gus to get solo job back?

[mtgrizrule]

Gus will be starting again when he is given the thumbs up to play. Both QB's have been inconsistent with accuracy at times. Chalich has done a great job in relief though. He's played better than I expected and proven to me he is a very capable QB. Regardless of who the qb is, can the GRIZ please start throwing more between and near the hashmarks? That alone would help this offense immensely! Our passing game for the most part are screen passes, fly routes, posts, and outs. I hope we utilize more drags, ins, and hooks. I also am hoping to see some HB wheel routes. One would think those routes will be available to the offense. I am not sure if it is coaching or the qbs, as to why there are so few passes in the middle? Stitt did say when he was hired that his offense is designed to utilize the whole field. Why haven't we witnessed much of that yet?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Get 1-2 games further in the season and its too late to change the QB...CC is going good, and is 2-0...if you get 3-4 games further and CC is 5-1...why would you mess with that. Going back to Gus mid season you would think would throw a huge curveball in an offesne that needs to be rolling by November!

 

[brewskis]

Gus has his cool back there, way more than Chalich. As well as a broader grasp on the offense, and ran it quicker.

Chalich has done better than I expected though, especially considering just one interception. However, he sure does lean on that screen pass more than I'm sure Stitt would like to see.

Either case, it's Stitt's call and he seems pretty rational on these types of dilemas.

You realize Stitt is the one calling the screen passes, right?

He isn't actually. If you listen to Stitt's post game interview from UC-Davis he mentions that he wanted to run for that first drive's 4th and 1, however Chalich elected to go with the screen.

This is how Stitt's offense is of the "innovative" nature. Pretty much each play he calls the QB has a run option, screen option, and intermediate and deep route options.

I think the 15 screen passes is a sign of how limited Chalich is in this offense. But as I mentioned, he's done pretty well and is 2-0 while starting.

 

[signedbewildered]

Gus has his cool back there, way more than Chalich. As well as a broader grasp on the offense, and ran it quicker.

Chalich has done better than I expected though, especially considering just one interception. However, he sure does lean on that screen pass more than I'm sure Stitt would like to see.

Either case, it's Stitt's call and he seems pretty rational on these types of dilemas.

You realize Stitt is the one calling the screen passes, right?

He isn't actually. If you listen to Stitt's post game interview from UC-Davis he mentions that he wanted to run for that first drive's 4th and 1, however Chalich elected to go with the screen.

This is how Stitt's offense is of the "innovative" nature. Pretty much each play he calls the QB has a run option, screen option, and intermediate and deep route options.

I think the 15 screen passes is a sign of how limited Chalich is in this offense. But as I mentioned, he's done pretty well and is 2-0 while starting.

Yes, thought it was interesting when he said that. Wasn't down on CC just mentioned he did something different than Stitt had in mind for for he play.

 

[Griz!ron]

Gus has his cool back there, way more than Chalich. As well as a broader grasp on the offense, and ran it quicker.

Chalich has done better than I expected though, especially considering just one interception. However, he sure does lean on that screen pass more than I'm sure Stitt would like to see.

Either case, it's Stitt's call and he seems pretty rational on these types of dilemas.

You realize Stitt is the one calling the screen passes, right?

He isn't actually. If you listen to Stitt's post game interview from UC-Davis he mentions that he wanted to run for that first drive's 4th and 1, however Chalich elected to go with the screen.

This is how Stitt's offense is of the "innovative" nature. Pretty much each play he calls the QB has a run option, screen option, and intermediate and deep route options.

I think the 15 screen passes is a sign of how limited Chalich is in this offense. But as I mentioned, he's done pretty well and is 2-0 while starting.

Gus didn't throw a whole lot of screen passes, even when those were open and the downfield pass wasn't

 

[AZGrizFan]

Gus has his cool back there, way more than Chalich. As well as a broader grasp on the offense, and ran it quicker.

Chalich has done better than I expected though, especially considering just one interception. However, he sure does lean on that screen pass more than I'm sure Stitt would like to see.

Either case, it's Stitt's call and he seems pretty rational on these types of dilemas.

You realize Stitt is the one calling the screen passes, right?

He isn't actually. If you listen to Stitt's post game interview from UC-Davis he mentions that he wanted to run for that first drive's 4th and 1, however Chalich elected to go with the screen.

This is how Stitt's offense is of the "innovative" nature. Pretty much each play he calls the QB has a run option, screen option, and intermediate and deep route options.

I think the 15 screen passes is a sign of how limited Chalich is in this offense. But as I mentioned, he's done pretty well and is 2-0 while starting.

Check the number of short passes Gus threw after the NDSU game.... A TON.

 

[Htowngriz]

Gus has his cool back there, way more than Chalich. As well as a broader grasp on the offense, and ran it quicker.

Chalich has done better than I expected though, especially considering just one interception. However, he sure does lean on that screen pass more than I'm sure Stitt would like to see.

Either case, it's Stitt's call and he seems pretty rational on these types of dilemas.

You realize Stitt is the one calling the screen passes, right?

He isn't actually. If you listen to Stitt's post game interview from UC-Davis he mentions that he wanted to run for that first drive's 4th and 1, however Chalich elected to go with the screen.

This is how Stitt's offense is of the "innovative" nature. Pretty much each play he calls the QB has a run option, screen option, and intermediate and deep route options.

I think the 15 screen passes is a sign of how limited Chalich is in this offense. But as I mentioned, he's done pretty well and is 2-0 while starting.

You'll have to forgive me, I only played the game briefly.

But Chalich also made a perfect throw to Roberts in the corner of the end zone, so the ability is definitely there.

 

[Spanky]

Well, I played the game....in high school and I think we have two good quarterbacks, maybe more. A good position to be in when Gus is back 100%.

 

[brewskis]

Gus has his cool back there, way more than Chalich. As well as a broader grasp on the offense, and ran it quicker.

Chalich has done better than I expected though, especially considering just one interception. However, he sure does lean on that screen pass more than I'm sure Stitt would like to see.

Either case, it's Stitt's call and he seems pretty rational on these types of dilemas.

You realize Stitt is the one calling the screen passes, right?

He isn't actually. If you listen to Stitt's post game interview from UC-Davis he mentions that he wanted to run for that first drive's 4th and 1, however Chalich elected to go with the screen.

This is how Stitt's offense is of the "innovative" nature. Pretty much each play he calls the QB has a run option, screen option, and intermediate and deep route options.

I think the 15 screen passes is a sign of how limited Chalich is in this offense. But as I mentioned, he's done pretty well and is 2-0 while starting.

You'll have to forgive me, I only played the game briefly.

But Chalich also made a perfect throw to Roberts in the corner of the end zone, so the ability is definitely there.

Yeah I played only briefly as well, just wasn't built for football.

It seems that Chalich has two types of throws that he's comfortable with. Short screens and deep routes. Gus wins the job on intermediate routes.

 

[garizzalies]

CC seems to be improving but I'm not sure he is executing the way Brady did (at least in game 1) yet, or maybe they are not calling those plays for him. It seemed like he did have one (his first?) dynamo read with the Ellis TD. That was a very good sign but maybe he's not ready to get/call those plays in the middle of the field yet.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm watching the same games as some of you. CC has looked okay, and seems to be improving, but keep in mind the defenses he has faced, the slow starts, both wins were one-possession games late, and the running game seemed to seal the deal.

 

[Htowngriz]

CC seems to be improving but I'm not sure he is executing the way Brady did (at least in game 1) yet, or maybe they are not calling those plays for him. It seemed like he did have one (his first?) dynamo read with the Ellis TD. That was a very good sign but maybe he's not ready to get/call those plays in the middle of the field yet.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm watching the same games as some of you. CC has looked okay, and seems to be improving, but keep in mind the defenses he has faced, the slow starts, both wins were one-possession games late, and the running game seemed to seal the deal.

You probably just aren't expecting perfection...like most sane, rational people.

 

[AZGrizFan]

CC seems to be improving but I'm not sure he is executing the way Brady did (at least in game 1) yet, or maybe they are not calling those plays for him. It seemed like he did have one (his first?) dynamo read with the Ellis TD. That was a very good sign but maybe he's not ready to get/call those plays in the middle of the field yet.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm watching the same games as some of you. CC has looked okay, and seems to be improving, but keep in mind the defenses he has faced, the slow starts, both wins were one-possession games late, and the running game seemed to seal the deal.

And everybody who's in the BG camp seems to just want to talk about the NDSU game, and not how he looked the NEXT 5 quarters before he got hurt...he was regressing, while CC is improving...it appears that QB run element is critical to the success of this offensive scheme.

 

[Htowngriz]

CC seems to be improving but I'm not sure he is executing the way Brady did (at least in game 1) yet, or maybe they are not calling those plays for him. It seemed like he did have one (his first?) dynamo read with the Ellis TD. That was a very good sign but maybe he's not ready to get/call those plays in the middle of the field yet.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm watching the same games as some of you. CC has looked okay, and seems to be improving, but keep in mind the defenses he has faced, the slow starts, both wins were one-possession games late, and the running game seemed to seal the deal.

And everybody who's in the BG camp seems to just want to talk about the NDSU game, and not how he looked the NEXT 5 quarters before he got hurt...he was regressing, while CC is improving...it appears that QB run element is critical to the success of this offensive scheme.

I don't think it would be if we could get more consistent production from our RBs. Hopefully Calhoun will give us that...

 

[jcu27]

Gus is a better passer. Throws further and nice spirals. Chalich throws it pretty shitty, wobbles a ton. Idk how the receivers even catch half of them. But, Chalich does have better accuracy and he can keep defenses honest with his feet. Pros and cons of both. Depends on what kind of offense you want. Personally I'd take Chalich. Because of read options. We should throw some triple options in there too(at least not so obvious ones). Really his offense is pretty vanilla imo. Not what I was originally expecting. Pfugrad is more of an offensive master mind imo. If though Delaney was still coach(didn't like the hire still don't) he would probably be doing quite a bit better than Stitt. Only because Delaney would of finally had his players and Gus would have been his perfect QB. We would definitely be scoring more points with Delaney at this point. However in 2-3 years if Stitt opens his playbook up a lot.... We will have a pretty damn exciting high scoring offense. Unless his playbook is already opened up then definitely not impressed. It's just the basic spread offense as far as I can tell.

 

[griz5700]

Gus is a better passer. Throws further and nice spirals. Chalich throws it pretty shitty, wobbles a ton. Idk how the receivers even catch half of them. But, Chalich does have better accuracy and he can keep defenses honest with his feet. Pros and cons of both. Depends on what kind of offense you want. Personally I'd take Chalich. Because of read options. We should throw some triple options in there too(at least not so obvious ones). Really his offense is pretty vanilla imo. Not what I was originally expecting. Pfugrad is more of an offensive master mind imo. If though Delaney was still coach(didn't like the hire still don't) he would probably be doing quite a bit better than Stitt. Only because Delaney would of finally had his players and Gus would have been his perfect QB. We would definitely be scoring more points with Delaney at this point. However in 2-3 years if Stitt opens his playbook up a lot.... We will have a pretty damn exciting high scoring offense. Unless his playbook is already opened up then definitely not impressed. It's just the basic spread offense as far as I can tell.

Interesting take.

I agree with everything you said other than taking Chalich over Gustafson. Brady is the best qb on the roster regardless of offense.

Pflugrad was really building something special imo. And Delaney's offense doesn't seem so boring now....unfortunate for all those who were crying for an exciting, "innovative" offense. #StittHappens

 

[gotgame75]

Gus is a better passer. Throws further and nice spirals. Chalich throws it pretty shitty, wobbles a ton. Idk how the receivers even catch half of them. But, Chalich does have better accuracy and he can keep defenses honest with his feet. Pros and cons of both. Depends on what kind of offense you want. Personally I'd take Chalich. Because of read options. We should throw some triple options in there too(at least not so obvious ones). Really his offense is pretty vanilla imo. Not what I was originally expecting. Pfugrad is more of an offensive master mind imo. If though Delaney was still coach(didn't like the hire still don't) he would probably be doing quite a bit better than Stitt. Only because Delaney would of finally had his players and Gus would have been his perfect QB. We would definitely be scoring more points with Delaney at this point. However in 2-3 years if Stitt opens his playbook up a lot.... We will have a pretty damn exciting high scoring offense. Unless his playbook is already opened up then definitely not impressed. It's just the basic spread offense as far as I can tell.

Look I'm the biggest Pflu fan in the world, but to say Robin "is more of an offensive master mind" after 5 games with Stitt is outright ludicrous. 5 games into Pflu's HC career he certainly wasn't seen as the "offensive mastermind" that some see him as today either. The premature generalizations in regards to Stitt some make on eGriz are beyond amusing. Certainly Robin was on the verge of doing some amazing things (which makes his firing such a tragedy), but I'm going to defer to the experts when it comes to Stitt. With the amount of press out there with big name, winning coaches from the highest levels of football vouching for his offensive innovations, don't you think there must be a little something to it? How often do D2 coaches get the kind of public accolades that Stitt had? Pretty much never. Until we see it on the field, it means nothing, but making generalizations about the limits of his offense after barely 5 games (with a backup QB at the helm) is ridiculous.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Gus is a better passer. Throws further and nice spirals. Chalich throws it pretty shitty, wobbles a ton. Idk how the receivers even catch half of them. But, Chalich does have better accuracy and he can keep defenses honest with his feet. Pros and cons of both. Depends on what kind of offense you want. Personally I'd take Chalich. Because of read options. We should throw some triple options in there too(at least not so obvious ones). Really his offense is pretty vanilla imo. Not what I was originally expecting. Pfugrad is more of an offensive master mind imo. If though Delaney was still coach(didn't like the hire still don't) he would probably be doing quite a bit better than Stitt. Only because Delaney would of finally had his players and Gus would have been his perfect QB. We would definitely be scoring more points with Delaney at this point. However in 2-3 years if Stitt opens his playbook up a lot.... We will have a pretty damn exciting high scoring offense. Unless his playbook is already opened up then definitely not impressed. It's just the basic spread offense as far as I can tell.

Interesting take.

I agree with everything you said other than taking Chalich over Gustafson. Brady is the best qb on the roster regardless of offense.

Pflugrad was really building something special imo. And Delaney's offense doesn't seem so boring now....unfortunate for all those who were crying for an exciting, "innovative" offense. #StittHappens

Man. The grass really IS always greener on the other side isn't it? We're about to go 3-0 in conference and people are longing for Delaneys offense back? The difference is this: delaneys offense with JJ last year was as good as it was EVER going to get. This offense has nowhere to go but up and hasn't even scratched the surface of its potential.

 

[jcu27]

To get this clear, I wasn't saying I wanted Delaney's offense back. I was just saying he would have a better offense this year because he finally had his players. I like Stitt's offense. He just needs to open the playbook up wayyyy more and have his players.

Note: I did say this as well if some of you didn't read the whole post I made.
"We would definitely be scoring more points with Delaney at this point. However in 2-3 years if Stitt opens his playbook up a lot.... We will have a pretty damn exciting high scoring offense. Unless his playbook is already opened up then definitely not impressed. It's just the basic spread offense as far as I can tell"

 

[jcu27]

Gus is a better passer. Throws further and nice spirals. Chalich throws it pretty shitty, wobbles a ton. Idk how the receivers even catch half of them. But, Chalich does have better accuracy and he can keep defenses honest with his feet. Pros and cons of both. Depends on what kind of offense you want. Personally I'd take Chalich. Because of read options. We should throw some triple options in there too(at least not so obvious ones). Really his offense is pretty vanilla imo. Not what I was originally expecting. Pfugrad is more of an offensive master mind imo. If though Delaney was still coach(didn't like the hire still don't) he would probably be doing quite a bit better than Stitt. Only because Delaney would of finally had his players and Gus would have been his perfect QB. We would definitely be scoring more points with Delaney at this point. However in 2-3 years if Stitt opens his playbook up a lot.... We will have a pretty damn exciting high scoring offense. Unless his playbook is already opened up then definitely not impressed. It's just the basic spread offense as far as I can tell.

Interesting take.

I agree with everything you said other than taking Chalich over Gustafson. Brady is the best qb on the roster regardless of offense.

Pflugrad was really building something special imo. And Delaney's offense doesn't seem so boring now....unfortunate for all those who were crying for an exciting, "innovative" offense. #StittHappens

Man. The grass really IS always greener on the other side isn't it? We're about to go 3-0 in conference and people are longing for Delaneys offense back? The difference is this: delaneys offense with JJ last year was as good as it was EVER going to get. This offense has nowhere to go but up and hasn't even scratched the surface of its potential.

I disagree. I think Brady would of been the better QB in Delaney's offense. I love JJ and he's my favorite QB the Griz have had. But, to say with JJ in that offense was going to be as good as it got is just ridiculous. JJ wasn't fit for his offense. If he was JJ would of shattered records.

 

[bgbigdog]

To get this clear, I wasn't saying I wanted Delaney's offense back. I was jusMt saying he would have a better offense this year because he finally had his players...

Note: I did say this as well if some of you didn't read the whole post I made.
"We would definitely be scoring more points with Delaney at this point. It's just the basic spread offense as far as I can tell"

So you're saying run to the right for no gain, run to the left for a loss of two and a 50+ yard throw downfield that's incomplete would be better than what you've seen so far? Because that was Delaney's O. They finally caved @ the end of last year when the realized that wasn't working and went back to something closer to a spread option, which hardly resembles what Stitt is trying to do. The spread option is a running offense. Stitt's O is a pass first focus. You might also note that this years O line, most of whom are Delaney's guys, is struggling. Brady isn't a runner, & Chalich isn't JJ, so what have I missed? Without the defense, this is an 1-4 team @ best under Delaney with the same players. Stitt's O isn't firing on all cylinders yet, but it's already shown more than what Delaney abandoned.