Gunnar Brekke Gatorade POY

[PlayerRep]

go ahead Mr. miss-the-point cat, try to find a quote where I said 'jack or carpenter being named the top fcs recruit in the nation' .

I'll try to make it simple and straightforward; I respect MSU but you can do the research over the last 15-20 years and find out that MSU quarterbacks other than T.Lulay and DMac have a very low winning percentage against UM.

not missing any point PGM. you said what wbtfg said was similar to what you've been hearing forever. i pointed out that while that is true it goes both ways which you don't seem to believe. my point is that it doesn't matter at all. no bobcat team has had much success against the griz in like 30 years. does that mean anything currently? it didn't stop us from beating you this year. the griz hammered everyone including the cats for two decades. did that help you this season?

i understand in light of where the griz currently are at why 15-20 years ago is still relevent. my point is i don't think it matters. this isn't to say this qb we are discussing is going to be the best to ever play for the cats. he might not work out at all. but if he doesn't....it will have nothing to do with travis lulay, denarius mcghee, or winning percentage against the griz the last 20 years, or anything else..... :idea:

and while we're splitting hairs....i never said YOU said that about jack or carpenter. :lol: just said if you heard similar things to what wbtfg said...maybe someone was saying that.

Actually, I think you are missing the point. You are right that whether a new qb is going to be great for the Cats after the Irish lad is done, has little or nothing to do with what happened after Lulay was done. However, what is the same or similar are the Cats fans, or some Cat fans, who underestimated Lulay's leaving and were confident that new qb's would be just as good, or about as good. Now, some Cat fans, including probably some of those who were around in the Lulay era, are now saying the same thing, i.e. the Cats won't miss the Irish lad much and will replace him with a new great qb. Great qb's are very hard to replace, especially the special ones who have taken their team to a higher level.

 

[Grizfan-24]

When I was coaching in Montana, I heard and saw in person a lot of shady behavior by both coaching staffs.

If you think this behavior is unseemly, then I suggest avoiding contact with car salesmen.

BTW, I think Brekke is on more than just UofM or MSU's radar because he can play. He isn't exactly low hanging fruit here. The UofM did good to get an early commit from him, but I believe his status as a commit has less to with the seedy behavior of MSU coaches or the sanctions because he can play the game of football pretty well.

Congrats to Gunnar on his POY award.

 

[ilovethecats]

Actually, I think you are missing the point. You are right that whether a new qb is going to be great for the Cats after the Irish lad is done, has little or nothing to do with what happened after Lulay was done. However, what is the same or similar are the Cats fans, or some Cat fans, who underestimated Lulay's leaving and were confident that new qb's would be just as good, or about as good. Now, some Cat fans, including probably some of those who were around in the Lulay era, are now saying the same thing, i.e. the Cats won't miss the Irish lad much and will replace him with a new great qb. Great qb's are very hard to replace, especially the special ones who have taken their team to a higher level.

can't argue that PR although i didn't miss the point. i'm just saying that until we see these kids play....NONE of us have any idea. i have no doubt some cat fans thought we wouldn't miss a beat when lulay was done. and i'm sure some think it'll be the same when DM leaves. i'll withold judgement but i am certainly more confident in the talent that we have coming in now than we did 10 years ago.

from my standpoint here is my opinion. i think DM is an incredible talent. and i feel very fortunate that i have got to see him play as a bobcat. but NO team anywhere is a one person team. so i find it funny when some fans say that after next year the cats are sure to have losing seasons and miss the playoffs because we will be without our savior. i still think the cats can be a very good team in the years after DM leaves even if the qb we bring in is not as dynamic as mcghee is.

even if he is a porceline doll..... :thumb:

 

[Cats2506]

go ahead Mr. miss-the-point cat, try to find a quote where I said 'jack or carpenter being named the top fcs recruit in the nation' .

I'll try to make it simple and straightforward; I respect MSU but you can do the research over the last 15-20 years and find out that MSU quarterbacks other than T.Lulay and DMac have a very low winning percentage against UM.

not missing any point PGM. you said what wbtfg said was similar to what you've been hearing forever. i pointed out that while that is true it goes both ways which you don't seem to believe. my point is that it doesn't matter at all. no bobcat team has had much success against the griz in like 30 years. does that mean anything currently? it didn't stop us from beating you this year. the griz hammered everyone including the cats for two decades. did that help you this season?

i understand in light of where the griz currently are at why 15-20 years ago is still relevent. my point is i don't think it matters. this isn't to say this qb we are discussing is going to be the best to ever play for the cats. he might not work out at all. but if he doesn't....it will have nothing to do with travis lulay, denarius mcghee, or winning percentage against the griz the last 20 years, or anything else..... :idea:

and while we're splitting hairs....i never said YOU said that about jack or carpenter. :lol: just said if you heard similar things to what wbtfg said...maybe someone was saying that.

Actually, I think you are missing the point. You are right that whether a new qb is going to be great for the Cats after the Irish lad is done, has little or nothing to do with what happened after Lulay was done. However, what is the same or similar are the Cats fans, or some Cat fans, who underestimated Lulay's leaving and were confident that new qb's would be just as good, or about as good. Now, some Cat fans, including probably some of those who were around in the Lulay era, are now saying the same thing, i.e. the Cats won't miss the Irish lad much and will replace him with a new great qb. Great qb's are very hard to replace, especially the special ones who have taken their team to a higher level.

I really don't remember people saying that we wouldn't miss a beat when Lulay graduated, however Carpenter and Rolovitch did do pretty well, they got us an FBS win, playoff appearance including a home PO win.

Next years MSU Sr class is a strong one, but one big difference between 2014 and when Lulay graduated is the rest of the team, Our coaches have done a great job of improving our recruiting across the board. I am figuring that a post McGhee MSU team will have some bumps, but we now have a strong enough program as a whole that we wont be dropping back to 6-5 or god forbid :laugh: 5-6. Granted things can happen as fizz fan can see from your own experiences this year, but if everything else remains constant then the loss of McGhee and his classmates will not be the end of the Cats.

 

[nzone]

Time will tell I guess...

 

[EverettGriz]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

 

[wbtfg]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

Easy there Papa E...if true its no more major of a violation as all the griz fans who were contacting malik watson via facebook and twitter last signing day.

 

[gah-riz]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

Easy there Papa E...if true its no more major of a violation as all the griz fans who were contacting malik watson via facebook and twitter last signing day.

The degree of the violation may be the same, but the spirit is drastically different. In one case you had egriz posters (boosters) mistakingly believe they could contact a recruit after they signed a LOI to congratulate them via social media and after a recruit had affirmed their decision. In the other case you have a bcn poster potentially trying to influence a recruit who hasn't affirmed their decision via a LOI and at the very least trying to gather intel directly from the recruit or his family via a much more direct form of communication (a phone call) while at the same time being a bobcat booster.

As I said, the degree of the violation may be the same, but one act is extremely shady while the others were done in a well meaning, though ignorant, manner.

 

[Cats2506]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

Easy there Papa E...if true its no more major of a violation as all the griz fans who were contacting malik watson via facebook and twitter last signing day.

The degree of the violation may be the same, but the spirit is drastically different. In one case you had egriz posters (boosters) mistakingly believe they could contact a recruit after they signed a LOI to congratulate them via social media and after a recruit had affirmed their decision. In the other case you have a bcn poster potentially trying to influence a recruit who hasn't affirmed their decision via a LOI and at the very least trying to gather intel directly from the recruit or his family via a much more direct form of communication (a phone call) while at the same time being a bobcat booster.

As I said, the degree of the violation may be the same, but one act is extremely shady while the others were done in a well meaning, though ignorant, manner.

:lol: Both situations are creepy if true.

Concerning the Cat allegation, you have to remember that this rumor was started right here by one of the least credible posters anywhere, remember DHiW is the guy that claimed inside info that the FCS was about to collapse 3 years ago, and surely would with out the monetary windfall of having UM participate in the 2010 playoffs, He also supposedly rented out Washington Stadium for the purpose of using the facility to accomplish a bet.

Now MSU has made a posting that might give credence to such a violation, but than again maybe DHiW saw that and made the rest up like he does everything else.

In either case it isn't too bad a violation if the school self reports when they become aware and then takes steps to prevent that type of thing form happening in the future. Which if it is true then MSU looks to pretty well have it covered.

 

[gah-riz]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

Easy there Papa E...if true its no more major of a violation as all the griz fans who were contacting malik watson via facebook and twitter last signing day.

The degree of the violation may be the same, but the spirit is drastically different. In one case you had egriz posters (boosters) mistakingly believe they could contact a recruit after they signed a LOI to congratulate them via social media and after a recruit had affirmed their decision. In the other case you have a bcn poster potentially trying to influence a recruit who hasn't affirmed their decision via a LOI and at the very least trying to gather intel directly from the recruit or his family via a much more direct form of communication (a phone call) while at the same time being a bobcat booster.

As I said, the degree of the violation may be the same, but one act is extremely shady while the others were done in a well meaning, though ignorant, manner.

:lol: Both situations are creepy if true.

Concerning the Cat allegation, you have to remember that this rumor was started right here by one of the least credible posters anywhere, remember DHiW is the guy that claimed inside info that the FCS was about to collapse 3 years ago, and surely would with out the monetary windfall of having UM participate in the 2010 playoffs, He also supposedly rented out Washington Stadium for the purpose of using the facility to accomplish a bet.

Now MSU has made a posting that might give credence to such a violation, but than again maybe DHiW saw that and made the rest up like he does everything else.

In either case it isn't too bad a violation if the school self reports when they become aware and then takes steps to prevent that type of thing form happening in the future. Which if it is true then MSU looks to pretty well have it covered.

Agreed both are creepy, I did not see the post on bcn so I don't know if this call did in fact happen, but it sounds like there is a good chance it did. I know one poster who contacted Malik after signing day, after learning it was a violation, removed the tweet and contacted Gene Gee who is the NCAA compliance offer, she in turn indicated she would self-report the incident to the NCAA.

 

[tourist]

"Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life?" One of my favorite lines from "Apocalypse Now." Violations, violations. Yes, self reporting is required, and any cover up...well. Idaho State is still being investigated by the NCAA for actions of one of their well heeled 'boosters.' Oh, well, at least the NCAA will have practice in Montana investigations. Probably will speed up the process a bit. Should have a determination by, say, fall practice. Don't buy your Frisco tickets, yet, cat fans.

 

[EverettGriz]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

Easy there Papa E...if true its no more major of a violation as all the griz fans who were contacting malik watson via facebook and twitter last signing day.

The degree of the violation may be the same, but the spirit is drastically different. In one case you had egriz posters (boosters) mistakingly believe they could contact a recruit after they signed a LOI to congratulate them via social media and after a recruit had affirmed their decision. In the other case you have a bcn poster potentially trying to influence a recruit who hasn't affirmed their decision via a LOI and at the very least trying to gather intel directly from the recruit or his family via a much more direct form of communication (a phone call) while at the same time being a bobcat booster.

As I said, the degree of the violation may be the same, but one act is extremely shady while the others were done in a well meaning, though ignorant, manner.

:lol: Both situations are creepy if true.

Concerning the Cat allegation, you have to remember that this rumor was started right here by one of the least credible posters anywhere, remember DHiW is the guy that claimed inside info that the FCS was about to collapse 3 years ago, and surely would with out the monetary windfall of having UM participate in the 2010 playoffs, He also supposedly rented out Washington Stadium for the purpose of using the facility to accomplish a bet.

Now MSU has made a posting that might give credence to such a violation, but than again maybe DHiW saw that and made the rest up like he does everything else.

In either case it isn't too bad a violation if the school self reports when they become aware and then takes steps to prevent that type of thing form happening in the future. Which if it is true then MSU looks to pretty well have it covered.

You know damn well it happened and was posted to your board, 25.06.

 

[statler & waldorf]

Don't know what their actual specifications might be, but could someone refer the NCAA to a good commercial realtor in the Bozeman area. They will need sufficient office space, probably for a year or more.

 

[Cats2506]

Easy there Papa E...if true its no more major of a violation as all the griz fans who were contacting malik watson via facebook and twitter last signing day.

The degree of the violation may be the same, but the spirit is drastically different. In one case you had egriz posters (boosters) mistakingly believe they could contact a recruit after they signed a LOI to congratulate them via social media and after a recruit had affirmed their decision. In the other case you have a bcn poster potentially trying to influence a recruit who hasn't affirmed their decision via a LOI and at the very least trying to gather intel directly from the recruit or his family via a much more direct form of communication (a phone call) while at the same time being a bobcat booster.

As I said, the degree of the violation may be the same, but one act is extremely shady while the others were done in a well meaning, though ignorant, manner.

:lol: Both situations are creepy if true.

Concerning the Cat allegation, you have to remember that this rumor was started right here by one of the least credible posters anywhere, remember DHiW is the guy that claimed inside info that the FCS was about to collapse 3 years ago, and surely would with out the monetary windfall of having UM participate in the 2010 playoffs, He also supposedly rented out Washington Stadium for the purpose of using the facility to accomplish a bet.

Now MSU has made a posting that might give credence to such a violation, but than again maybe DHiW saw that and made the rest up like he does everything else.

In either case it isn't too bad a violation if the school self reports when they become aware and then takes steps to prevent that type of thing form happening in the future. Which if it is true then MSU looks to pretty well have it covered.

You know damn well it happened and was posted to your board, 25.06.

So you still claim to have rented Washington Stadium for a foot race :lol: :lol:

 

[Cuervohola]

Welcome aboard, Gunnar!!!

 

[indian-outlaw]

The degree of the violation may be the same, but the spirit is drastically different. In one case you had egriz posters (boosters) mistakingly believe they could contact a recruit after they signed a LOI to congratulate them via social media and after a recruit had affirmed their decision. In the other case you have a bcn poster potentially trying to influence a recruit who hasn't affirmed their decision via a LOI and at the very least trying to gather intel directly from the recruit or his family via a much more direct form of communication (a phone call) while at the same time being a bobcat booster.

As I said, the degree of the violation may be the same, but one act is extremely shady while the others were done in a well meaning, though ignorant, manner.

:lol: Both situations are creepy if true.

Concerning the Cat allegation, you have to remember that this rumor was started right here by one of the least credible posters anywhere, remember DHiW is the guy that claimed inside info that the FCS was about to collapse 3 years ago, and surely would with out the monetary windfall of having UM participate in the 2010 playoffs, He also supposedly rented out Washington Stadium for the purpose of using the facility to accomplish a bet.

Now MSU has made a posting that might give credence to such a violation, but than again maybe DHiW saw that and made the rest up like he does everything else.

In either case it isn't too bad a violation if the school self reports when they become aware and then takes steps to prevent that type of thing form happening in the future. Which if it is true then MSU looks to pretty well have it covered.

You know damn well it happened and was posted to your board, 25.06.

So you still claim to have rented Washington Stadium for a foot race :lol: :lol:

That was absolutely the funniest thing I have ever read on either egriz or scatnation. Everettgriz challenged alpha to a decathlon and alpha called his bluff. It was quite a string of back and forth until everett griz tapped out with that husky stadium rental crap. It was classic stuff I wish I could find the thread.

 

[catsack]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

So how firm is Brekke?

 

[Hammer]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

So how firm is Brekke?

I wonder if the NCAA needs to be made aware of this????

 

[George Ferguson]

Heard just tonight from a Class AA coach, he informed the Griz coaching staff he will not be a Griz last Friday.

Edit: Contrary to what some MSU fans are saying, He has YET to inform the Cats of a verbal commitment. Was told Boise State is swooping in. I suspect though, if he's not given a full ride offer at an FBS school, now the he has decomitted to UM, he will be a Bobcat eventually. Unfortunately, heard Horner is likely to sign with the Cats as well.

 

[statler & waldorf]

I've been told by those who would know and those I would absolutely believe, that a specific bobcat booster -- and regular bcn poster -- called the Brekke family and asked them how firm Gunnar's commitment to UM is. Then, he posted regarding his conversation on bcn. Evidently, though, that thread has now been removed.

If this occurred, it would constitute a significant NCAA violation. Perhaps the NCAA ended up in Missoula because they didnt have a good state of Montana map??

So how firm is Brekke?

I wonder if the NCAA needs to be made aware of this????

From a Griz perspective, if Gunnar now decides to become a Cat, definitely. From a neutral perspective, definitely.