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Griz WR's on 2016 roster

Atlanta Griz1 said:
brewskis said:
We are clearly addressing the need for a corners....with 1 transfer so far and 2 freshmen coming in. Kicker might work out....all the guys are new so give it a spring at least. So you are arguing over 3 maybe 4 scholarships, and you don't even know the scholarship situation for all the WRs.

Stitt muscled Ty out of Missoula, upgraded the DL after losing a lot to graduation, and had a huge success with defensive players in last seasons recruiting class. It appears Stitt understands the importance of having a quality defense. He also likes a lot of talented wide receivers. He's doing a good job assembling talented players and managing his staff.


Blah blah blah. I don't value futures. I want to see results on the field, and will the paper hype to guys who get off on such stuff.

Then why are you even on egriz? Online sports forums are all about blah,blah,blah. And I know you are as involved in it as the rest of us.
Personally, I love it when it stays griz-related. And when it's not,well, go mods,go!
 
behappp said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
brewskis said:
We are clearly addressing the need for a corners....with 1 transfer so far and 2 freshmen coming in. Kicker might work out....all the guys are new so give it a spring at least. So you are arguing over 3 maybe 4 scholarships, and you don't even know the scholarship situation for all the WRs.

Stitt muscled Ty out of Missoula, upgraded the DL after losing a lot to graduation, and had a huge success with defensive players in last seasons recruiting class. It appears Stitt understands the importance of having a quality defense. He also likes a lot of talented wide receivers. He's doing a good job assembling talented players and managing his staff.


Blah blah blah. I don't value futures. I want to see results on the field, and will the paper hype to guys who get off on such stuff.

Then why are you even on egriz? Online sports forums are all about blah,blah,blah. And I know you are as involved in it as the rest of us.
Personally, I love it when it stays griz-related. And when it's not,well, go mods,go!


Oh, football related, as in this post from you???? Hypocrite. Every post I made in this thread is football related. Yours? Not so much!
 
brewskis said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
brewskis said:
We are clearly addressing the need for a corners....with 1 transfer so far and 2 freshmen coming in. Kicker might work out....all the guys are new so give it a spring at least. So you are arguing over 3 maybe 4 scholarships, and you don't even know the scholarship situation for all the WRs.

Stitt muscled Ty out of Missoula, upgraded the DL after losing a lot to graduation, and had a huge success with defensive players in last seasons recruiting class. It appears Stitt understands the importance of having a quality defense. He also likes a lot of talented wide receivers. He's doing a good job assembling talented players and managing his staff.


Blah blah blah. I don't value futures. I want to see results on the field, and will the paper hype to guys who get off on such stuff.
So you don't value upgrading the talent at each position group and managing the depth chart properly?


Recruiting, and coaching, have no relevance. Some great coaches can win with inferior talent. Some great recruiters (like Mark Richt and Mack Brown), are great recruiters, but can't win the big ones even with superior talent. As I said, the book is still out on Stitt. While most on here have already lauded him with greatness, I remind everyone about his losing to Weber and Poly at home because of coaching gaffs. I am willing to give him the 2016 season to see if he improves.

As far as "managing the depth chart", as long as you love wide receivers, he is O.K. Kickers, punters, and CBs, not so much.
 
OK Atlanta I get your points.
Great coaches get great talent and also end up winning. Some coaches can get wins with great coaching.
Smart coaches know that with great talent it is much easier to win games. I have talked with coach Stitt a few times and I came away thinking he is smart. I also mentioned I think he is "quick smart" Further, I went on to say I think he will do very well at Montana but I will know after he has completed his third season. In the meantime I will enjoy his high speed passing game and the new defense we will see this year.

Problems? Yes I see many issues that bother me. Last years coaching gaffs seem questionable but he has explained every screw up to me and I am partially satisfied. His explainations made perfect sense (and that was last year). For this season he has told me about his kicker and punter situation. Again in 3 months it will become obvious if he is off or on. WR volume make good sense if U listen to his plans. One thing U will notice right away is the fact he gets testy when questioned on certain issues. More on this later.
 
Umista said:
OK Atlanta I get your points.
Great coaches get great talent and also end up winning. Some coaches can get wins with great coaching.
Smart coaches know that with great talent it is much easier to win games. I have talked with coach Stitt a few times and I came away thinking he is smart. I also mentioned I think he is "quick smart" Further, I went on to say I think he will do very well at Montana but I will know after he has completed his third season. In the meantime I will enjoy his high speed passing game and the new defense we will see this year.

Problems? Yes I see many issues that bother me. Last years coaching gaffs seem questionable but he has explained every screw up to me and I am partially satisfied. His explainations made perfect sense (and that was last year). For this season he has told me about his kicker and punter situation. Again in 3 months it will become obvious if he is off or on. WR volume make good sense if U listen to his plans. One thing U will notice right away is the fact he gets testy when questioned on certain issues. More on this later.

Hell, I would get testy too if I had to defend going for it TWICE on 4th down with his 3rd string QB in the game deep in Weber territory with basically an extra-point FG to take the lead at his disposal! I know he is your good buddy, but he will have to show me something this year to change my early opinion of his coaching abilities. I find it interesting that all of his blatherings early after his signing, and particularly after the big win versus NDSU, suddenly ended following the pathetic losses versus Poly & Weber. And, please remember that we came one miraculous miscue play by ISU from losing another game to Idaho State, which would have prevented us from making the playoffs.
 
Last year we suffered from a massive Delaney hangover. No blaming Stit for that. This year's roster moves that, like Alka-Seltzer, help start the healing. By next year Stitt will have his team virtually all around. Let the true analysis begin there.
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
Umista said:
OK Atlanta I get your points.
Great coaches get great talent and also end up winning. Some coaches can get wins with great coaching.
Smart coaches know that with great talent it is much easier to win games. I have talked with coach Stitt a few times and I came away thinking he is smart. I also mentioned I think he is "quick smart" Further, I went on to say I think he will do very well at Montana but I will know after he has completed his third season. In the meantime I will enjoy his high speed passing game and the new defense we will see this year.

Problems? Yes I see many issues that bother me. Last years coaching gaffs seem questionable but he has explained every screw up to me and I am partially satisfied. His explainations made perfect sense (and that was last year). For this season he has told me about his kicker and punter situation. Again in 3 months it will become obvious if he is off or on. WR volume make good sense if U listen to his plans. One thing U will notice right away is the fact he gets testy when questioned on certain issues. More on this later.

Hell, I would get testy too if I had to defend going for it TWICE on 4th down with his 3rd string QB in the game deep in Weber territory with basically an extra-point FG to take the lead at his disposal! I know he is your good buddy, but he will have to show me something this year to change my early opinion of his coaching abilities. I find it interesting that all of his blatherings early after his signing, and particularly after the big win versus NDSU, suddenly ended following the pathetic losses versus Poly & Weber. And, please remember that we came one miraculous miscue play by ISU from losing another game to Idaho State, which would have prevented us from making the playoffs.

Serious question: If we'd gotten the 4th down against Weber and gotten the first down against CP (and presumably won both of those games), would you be lauding him for his gutsy play calling? :roll: :roll:
 
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
Umista said:
OK Atlanta I get your points.
Great coaches get great talent and also end up winning. Some coaches can get wins with great coaching.
Smart coaches know that with great talent it is much easier to win games. I have talked with coach Stitt a few times and I came away thinking he is smart. I also mentioned I think he is "quick smart" Further, I went on to say I think he will do very well at Montana but I will know after he has completed his third season. In the meantime I will enjoy his high speed passing game and the new defense we will see this year.

Problems? Yes I see many issues that bother me. Last years coaching gaffs seem questionable but he has explained every screw up to me and I am partially satisfied. His explainations made perfect sense (and that was last year). For this season he has told me about his kicker and punter situation. Again in 3 months it will become obvious if he is off or on. WR volume make good sense if U listen to his plans. One thing U will notice right away is the fact he gets testy when questioned on certain issues. More on this later.

Hell, I would get testy too if I had to defend going for it TWICE on 4th down with his 3rd string QB in the game deep in Weber territory with basically an extra-point FG to take the lead at his disposal! I know he is your good buddy, but he will have to show me something this year to change my early opinion of his coaching abilities. I find it interesting that all of his blatherings early after his signing, and particularly after the big win versus NDSU, suddenly ended following the pathetic losses versus Poly & Weber. And, please remember that we came one miraculous miscue play by ISU from losing another game to Idaho State, which would have prevented us from making the playoffs.

Serious question: If we'd gotten the 4th down against Weber and gotten the first down against CP (and presumably won both of those games), would you be lauding him for his gutsy play calling? :roll: :roll:


IF...IF...IF! If the rabbit had not stopped to scratch his ass, the fox wouldn't have eaten him! Coaches who make stupid moves like Stitt did are....... former coaches.

Seriously. how cam ANYONE who knows jack about Grizzly football support a coach who loses at home to freakin' Weber state, Cal Poly, and should have lost to Idaho State??? The cumulative records of those three teams was 12-21. We had loads of talent last season, including the FCS defensive player of the year, three great LBs, and three great WRs. Yet, we lost to these teams?????
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
Umista said:
OK Atlanta I get your points.
Great coaches get great talent and also end up winning. Some coaches can get wins with great coaching.
Smart coaches know that with great talent it is much easier to win games. I have talked with coach Stitt a few times and I came away thinking he is smart. I also mentioned I think he is "quick smart" Further, I went on to say I think he will do very well at Montana but I will know after he has completed his third season. In the meantime I will enjoy his high speed passing game and the new defense we will see this year.

Problems? Yes I see many issues that bother me. Last years coaching gaffs seem questionable but he has explained every screw up to me and I am partially satisfied. His explainations made perfect sense (and that was last year). For this season he has told me about his kicker and punter situation. Again in 3 months it will become obvious if he is off or on. WR volume make good sense if U listen to his plans. One thing U will notice right away is the fact he gets testy when questioned on certain issues. More on this later.

Hell, I would get testy too if I had to defend going for it TWICE on 4th down with his 3rd string QB in the game deep in Weber territory with basically an extra-point FG to take the lead at his disposal! I know he is your good buddy, but he will have to show me something this year to change my early opinion of his coaching abilities. I find it interesting that all of his blatherings early after his signing, and particularly after the big win versus NDSU, suddenly ended following the pathetic losses versus Poly & Weber. And, please remember that we came one miraculous miscue play by ISU from losing another game to Idaho State, which would have prevented us from making the playoffs.

Serious question: If we'd gotten the 4th down against Weber and gotten the first down against CP (and presumably won both of those games), would you be lauding him for his gutsy play calling? :roll: :roll:


IF...IF...IF! If the rabbit had not stopped to scratch his ass, the fox wouldn't have eaten him! Coaches who make stupid moves like Stitt did are....... former coaches.

Seriously. how cam ANYONE who knows jack about Grizzly football support a coach who loses at home to freakin' Weber state, Cal Poly, and should have lost to Idaho State??? The cumulative records of those three teams was 12-21. We had loads of talent last season, including the FCS defensive player of the year, three great LBs, and three great WRs. Yet, we lost to these teams?????

And SUU had two players drafted into the NFL and they lost in the first round of the playoffs. Your point? Is it your expectation that the Griz win every single game they play?
 
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
Hell, I would get testy too if I had to defend going for it TWICE on 4th down with his 3rd string QB in the game deep in Weber territory with basically an extra-point FG to take the lead at his disposal! I know he is your good buddy, but he will have to show me something this year to change my early opinion of his coaching abilities. I find it interesting that all of his blatherings early after his signing, and particularly after the big win versus NDSU, suddenly ended following the pathetic losses versus Poly & Weber. And, please remember that we came one miraculous miscue play by ISU from losing another game to Idaho State, which would have prevented us from making the playoffs.

Serious question: If we'd gotten the 4th down against Weber and gotten the first down against CP (and presumably won both of those games), would you be lauding him for his gutsy play calling? :roll: :roll:


IF...IF...IF! If the rabbit had not stopped to scratch his ass, the fox wouldn't have eaten him! Coaches who make stupid moves like Stitt did are....... former coaches.

Seriously. how cam ANYONE who knows jack about Grizzly football support a coach who loses at home to freakin' Weber state, Cal Poly, and should have lost to Idaho State??? The cumulative records of those three teams was 12-21. We had loads of talent last season, including the FCS defensive player of the year, three great LBs, and three great WRs. Yet, we lost to these teams?????

And SUU had two players drafted into the NFL and they lost in the first round of the playoffs. Your point? Is it your expectation that the Griz win every single game they play?

My expectation is for the Griz play in the National Championship game, like they used to do routinely. Any other questions, Mr. participation trophy guy?
 
PlayerRep said:
Yukon said:
Just a sampling of other schools. Remember, Montana has no TE's.

Baylor WR/TE's = 17
Oregon WR/TE's = 19
Cal WR/TE's = 20

Remember that those schools have 85 scholarships, and UM is still down 4 schollies. Remember that those schools have larger roster limits too.

Valid point, which flies over the head of 90% on here!
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Serious question: If we'd gotten the 4th down against Weber and gotten the first down against CP (and presumably won both of those games), would you be lauding him for his gutsy play calling? :roll: :roll:


IF...IF...IF! If the rabbit had not stopped to scratch his ass, the fox wouldn't have eaten him! Coaches who make stupid moves like Stitt did are....... former coaches.

Seriously. how cam ANYONE who knows jack about Grizzly football support a coach who loses at home to freakin' Weber state, Cal Poly, and should have lost to Idaho State??? The cumulative records of those three teams was 12-21. We had loads of talent last season, including the FCS defensive player of the year, three great LBs, and three great WRs. Yet, we lost to these teams?????

And SUU had two players drafted into the NFL and they lost in the first round of the playoffs. Your point? Is it your expectation that the Griz win every single game they play?

My expectation is for the Griz play in the National Championship game, like they used to do routinely. Any other questions, Mr. participation trophy guy?

Same here. I just don't get the vapors if it doesn't happen.
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
PlayerRep said:
Yukon said:
Just a sampling of other schools. Remember, Montana has no TE's.

Baylor WR/TE's = 17
Oregon WR/TE's = 19
Cal WR/TE's = 20

Remember that those schools have 85 scholarships, and UM is still down 4 schollies. Remember that those schools have larger roster limits too.

Valid point, which flies over the head of 90% on here!
What's your problem? Player made a good point and I accepted that point. Then you have to chime in and be a complete dick about it. You didn't even think about it until Player brought it up. Then you have to act as if you are part of the elite on this board.
 
Yukon said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
PlayerRep said:
Yukon said:
Just a sampling of other schools. Remember, Montana has no TE's.

Baylor WR/TE's = 17
Oregon WR/TE's = 19
Cal WR/TE's = 20

Remember that those schools have 85 scholarships, and UM is still down 4 schollies. Remember that those schools have larger roster limits too.

Valid point, which flies over the head of 90% on here!
What's your problem? Player made a good point and I accepted that point. Then you have to chime in and be a complete dick about it. You didn't even think about it until Player brought it up. Then you have to act as if you are part of the elite on this board.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Fellas... keep in mind that the FBS scholarships are all Full ride.

FCS can divided scholarships in many different ways. That's why you see Stitt doing exactly what he had to do at his previous school in Colorado. Finding Great Athletes that will get academic scholarships also. It allows for greater flexibility and deeper 2nd and 3rd string players.

An example is Lamarriel Taylor from UMass. By all reports the guy is a brilliant student. I am quite sure that his academics have taken can of most if not all of the scholarship money he will receive.

So those 20 WR, might only account for 10 to 12 scholarships, or less if there are walk-ons involved.
 
Paytonlives said:
Fellas... keep in mind that the FBS scholarships are all Full ride.

FCS can divided scholarships in many different ways. That's why you see Stitt doing exactly what he had to do at his previous school in Colorado. Finding Great Athletes that will get academic scholarships also. It allows for greater flexibility and deeper 2nd and 3rd string players.

An example is Lamarriel Taylor from UMass. By all reports the guy is a brilliant student. I am quite sure that his academics have taken can of most if not all of the scholarship money he will receive.

So those 20 WR, might only account for 10 to 12 scholarships, or less if there are walk-ons involved.
Thank you. Very good post and informative. Now, Atlanta will tell how stupid you are...
 
Yukon said:
Just a sampling of other schools. Remember, Montana has no TE's.

Baylor WR/TE's = 17
Oregon WR/TE's = 19
Cal WR/TE's = 20

Think it has already been established that Stitt is adding back a TE spot for @ least some of the offense this season. Ralston seems a bit too big to be the slot guy.
 
Calm down Atlanta. Coach Stitt is doing a great job at this point by getting players he needs via the MENTAL ROUTE. We have far more kids on our team this season with tons of football skill along with being excellent in the classroom. This is a far reaching idea that is all Stitts. Smart. Last year he made first year mistakes. This is a new season. Get in the game!

PS, I know your packin so I quit going to the Mo Club.
 
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