GRIZ/WEBER

[CDAGRIZ]

someone tell numbnuts he is on ignore, so he should save his bs for his hijacks of other threads.

So if I'm on ignore then how did you know that I was even talking to or about you. Maybe somebody wanted to read what I posted? Maybe I was posting about the game.

:laugh: Now that is a very good point.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Christ sakes, another thread gone into the crapper. Why does most every basketball bulletin turn into this BS? I am tired of it. Can we keep these threads to basketball, and respect the basketball opinions? AS for guards shooting below 70i% from the FT line, to each is their own on that opinion. Personally speaking, I have told my guards at the jr high and HS level I expect them to work for 75%, or they lose time in crunch time to those that can do that. I also expect them to play 100% on defense and not force shots. If they are not willing to do those things, they sit until they figure it out!!!!!

As for the hair, I could careless what their hair style is if they put up the numbers and attitude Hasquet plays with!!!!

As for constructive criticism, these guys are now men, if they cannot take that at the college level, then they do not belong at the college level. I am sure anything said on this board is minor compared to what the coaches tell them. These players all know what they need to work on individually and as a team. As for Cam, to date he is not the same player physically or mentally on the court as he was last year. He is pressing things, most sophomore guards have similar problems. He will snap out of it. CAM is the key for the resurgence of the GRIZ. I am sure he knows that and will do what it takes to get his head and game back.

Finally, please quit ruining these threads with personal onslaughts, demeaning the GRIZ or this fanbase, etc. Keep to the subject of basketball please!!!!!! If you cannot or will not respect that on a GRIZ board, please stay off it. Honestly, I do not mind ZAG threads or their fan opinions when they stay on subject and do not start in on anyone here. Do not come on here with intent to start your BS!!!! We are not asking too much? If we are, get the hell out.

Thank you all.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Christ sakes, another thread gone into the crapper. Why does most every basketball bulletin turn into this BS? I am tired of it. Can we keep these threads to basketball, and respect the basketball opinions? AS for guards shooting below 70i% from the FT line, to each is their own on that opinion. Personally speaking, I have told my guards at the jr high and HS level I expect them to work for 75%, or they lose time in crunch time to those that can do that. I also expect them to play 100% on defense and not force shots. If they are not willing to do those things, they sit until they figure it out!!!!!

As for the hair, I could careless what their hair style is if they put up the numbers and attitude Hasquet plays with!!!!

As for constructive criticism, these guys are now men, if they cannot take that at the college level, then they do not belong at the college level. I am sure anything said on this board is minor compared to what the coaches tell them. These players all know what they need to work on individually and as a team. As for Cam, to date he is not the same player physically or mentally on the court as he was last year. He is pressing things, most sophomore guards have similar problems. He will snap out of it. CAM is the key for the resurgence of the GRIZ. I am sure he knows that and will do what it takes to get his head and game back.

Finally, please quit ruining these threads with personal onslaughts, demeaning the GRIZ or this fanbase, etc. Keep to the subject of basketball please!!!!!! If you cannot or will not respect that on a GRIZ board, please stay off it. Honestly, I do not mind ZAG threads or their fan opinions when they stay on subject and do not start in on anyone here. Do not come on here with intent to start your BS!!!! We are not asking too much? If we are, get the hell out.

Thank you all.

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Thanks mtgrizrule. GB1, you heard him. There was no need to call me out about my comment on Hasquet's hair. It's a non issue as far as I'm concerned; I was just defending.

mtgrizrule, I widh we could have civilized discussion about the ZAGS on here, but it just doesn't work. (kind of like civilized discussion about the griz doesn't work either). Anyway, thanks for your post, man. You are OK in my book :thumb:

 

[mtgrizrule]

BTW, that was a general post. I am not calling any 1 person out. As I have stated before, GB has earned my respect here. One would think as often as he posts here, any egriz regular would know what to post and not post. GB stands his ground well. :thumb: Do not start with him and he does not start in on you. Fact is, rather you agree or disagree with him, he is here to stay. FWIW, he has earned that here. :thumb:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

BTW, that was a general post. I am not calling any 1 person out. As I have stated before, GB has earned my respect here. One would think as often as he posts here, any egriz regular would know what to post and not post. GB stands his ground well. :thumb: Do not start with him and he does not start in on you. Fact is, rather you agree or disagree with him, he is here to stay. FWIW, he has earned that here. :thumb:

Pretty much the opposite in this case, really.

 

[griz8791]

Gonzaga fans' opinion that Hasquet's hair is too long is about as meaningful to me as Cat fans' opinion that Martin is a "punk."

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Gonzaga fans' opinion that Hasquet's hair is too long is about as meaningful to me as Cat fans' opinion that Martin is a "punk."

Duly noted. But I have to wonder why, if it means so little, you felt the need to post about the subject. I mean, the SAC/NAU game means nothing to me, so I don't post about it at all.

Maybe, by saying that it means "about as much", you mean that it actually means a lot, or something, to you. If this is the case, then I am sorry for assuming that it means nothing to you. Carry on either way.....

 

[GrizWhiz]

someone tell numbnuts he is on ignore, so he should save his bs for his hijacks of other threads.

So if I'm on ignore then how did you know that I was even talking to or about you. Maybe somebody wanted to read what I posted? Maybe I was posting about the game.

Please note: The moderators have moved non-Griz hoops to another forum. Not that this thread has anything to do Gonzaga (or the original topic for that matter) , but Gonzaga talk can go over there. Hopefully Gonzaga posters will go with it. :twocents:

 

[Lou]

someone tell numbnuts he is on ignore, so he should save his bs for his hijacks of other threads.

So if I'm on ignore then how did you know that I was even talking to or about you. Maybe somebody wanted to read what I posted? Maybe I was posting about the game.

Please note: The moderators have moved non-Griz hoops to another forum. Not that this thread has anything to do Gonzaga (or the original topic for that matter) , but Gonzaga talk can go over there. Hopefully Gonzaga posters will go with it. :twocents:

:laugh: Grizwhiz :clap: I love it!

 

[Grizbacker1]

BTW, that was a general post. I am not calling any 1 person out. As I have stated before, GB has earned my respect here. One would think as often as he posts here, any egriz regular would know what to post and not post. GB stands his ground well. :thumb: Do not start with him and he does not start in on you. Fact is, rather you agree or disagree with him, he is here to stay. FWIW, he has earned that here. :thumb:

Gee, I guess this is where I should be like CDA and say, see, and do the handclapping emoticon. Thanks Mtgrizrule. CDA, unlike some on here, and you apparently are amongst them, I don't need to wait until someone else posts something I can try to show agrees with my sentiments, then quote it and post the " I told ya so" type of thing you seem to feel gives some credence to your post. I take waht mtgriz says on his merits, and I don't see where I was signalled out at all in the post you are crowing over. So once again, your case is summarily dismissed.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

BTW, that was a general post. I am not calling any 1 person out. As I have stated before, GB has earned my respect here. One would think as often as he posts here, any egriz regular would know what to post and not post. GB stands his ground well. :thumb: Do not start with him and he does not start in on you. Fact is, rather you agree or disagree with him, he is here to stay. FWIW, he has earned that here. :thumb:

Gee, I guess this is where I should be like CDA and say, see, and do the handclapping emoticon. Thanks Mtgrizrule. CDA, unlike some on here, and you apparently are amongst them, I don't need to wait until someone else posts something I can try to show agrees with my sentiments, then quote it and post the " I told ya so" type of thing you seem to feel gives some credence to your post. I take waht mtgriz says on his merits, and I don't see where I was signalled out at all in the post you are crowing over. So once again, your case is summarily dismissed.

I just wanted to thank mtgrizrule for posting his post. I wanted you to take notice because we don't need to argue over whether or not someone would say something to someone's face (although you wouldn't). Furthermore, I tried to do exactly what mtgrizrule did myself when I said that it doesn't matter; it's the internet; etc. But it wasn't getting through to you, so I applauded him for his attempt at doing so. I was making no case (save for the one that you would get hit for telling Cam he didn't belong before I would for telling Hasquet his hair is long), so no case has been dismissed, tried, or even brought forth with regard to mtgrizrule's post. Thank you, and good luck when you tell Cam that he doesn't belong in CBB.

Truce?

 

[Lou]

BTW, that was a general post. I am not calling any 1 person out. As I have stated before, GB has earned my respect here. One would think as often as he posts here, any egriz regular would know what to post and not post. GB stands his ground well. :thumb: Do not start with him and he does not start in on you. Fact is, rather you agree or disagree with him, he is here to stay. FWIW, he has earned that here. :thumb:

Gee, I guess this is where I should be like CDA and say, see, and do the handclapping emoticon. Thanks Mtgrizrule. CDA, unlike some on here, and you apparently are amongst them, I don't need to wait until someone else posts something I can try to show agrees with my sentiments, then quote it and post the " I told ya so" type of thing you seem to feel gives some credence to your post. I take waht mtgriz says on his merits, and I don't see where I was signalled out at all in the post you are crowing over. So once again, your case is summarily dismissed.

Gee, I guess this is where I should be like GB1 and type a long paragraph that makes no sense.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You know, I was thinking about your position GB1 (that you wouldn't recruit a guard who shoots under 70% from the line, and those who do don't belong in CBB), and I have to say that now I see what you mean:

These players' College stats courtesy of http://www.databasebasketball.com

Jason Kidd FT%= 67.7%
Baron Davis FT%= 63.1%
Jeremy Pargo FT%= 68.7%
Allen Iverson FT%= 68.3%
Andre Miller FT%= 67.6%

What do all of these players have in common according to GB1? None of them belong(ed) in College Basketball. Maybe it's because they all belong in the NBA!

 

[Swillbury]

At least the Lakers are still third in the west w/out Bynum and now Ariza.......

Go Griz

 

[Lou]

At least the Lakers are still third in the west w/out Bynum and now Ariza.......

Go Griz

Keep it to Griz bball only Swill. NBA is not Griz bball!

 

[Lou]

You know, I was thinking about your position GB1 (that you wouldn't recruit a guard who shoots under 70% from the line, and those who do don't belong in CBB), and I have to say that now I see what you mean:

These players' College stats courtesy of http://www.databasebasketball.com

Jason Kidd FT%= 67.7%
Baron Davis FT%= 63.1%
Jeremy Pargo FT%= 68.7%
Allen Iverson FT%= 68.3%
Andre Miller FT%= 67.6%

What do all of these players have in common according to GB1? None of them belong(ed) in College Basketball. Maybe it's because they all belong in the NBA!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Nice work CDA. Grizbacker would be the worst recruiter in the history of the world. :laugh:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Thanks! And don't forget Gary Payton: like 67.8%

 

[Grizbacker1]

You know, I was thinking about your position GB1 (that you wouldn't recruit a guard who shoots under 70% from the line, and those who do don't belong in CBB), and I have to say that now I see what you mean:

These players' College stats courtesy of http://www.databasebasketball.com

Jason Kidd FT%= 67.7%
Baron Davis FT%= 63.1%
Jeremy Pargo FT%= 68.7%
Allen Iverson FT%= 68.3%
Andre Miller FT%= 67.6%

What do all of these players have in common according to GB1? None of them belong(ed) in College Basketball. Maybe it's because they all belong in the NBA!

You are making this too easy. Did I not say recruit guards with 70% FT percentages? I guess I have to explain to you that when you recruit a college player, you look at HS stats. I also did some checking, and for the season, Cam is right at 70%, so maybe I should have looked at that first. By the way, Jason Kidd averaged 25 pts, 10 assists, 7 rebounds, and 7 steals his Sr season in HS, and his FT percentage was over 70% at St Joseph of Notre Dame in Alameda. He was also named the Naismith POY, so I guess I can see why you tried to compare Kidd to Cam. I still personally would not recruit HS (do you get it now) guards that aren't at 70% or higher at the line. Sinc eyou mentioned Kidd, one of the best PG's in NBA history, care to guess what the FT percentages of Magic, Stockton, Oscar Robertson, Isaih Thomas, Bob Cousy, Walt Frazier, Steve Nash, Tiny Archibald were? They are in the top 10 all time PG's. I think it is safe to say your arguement was silly, at best.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You know, I was thinking about your position GB1 (that you wouldn't recruit a guard who shoots under 70% from the line, and those who do don't belong in CBB), and I have to say that now I see what you mean:

These players' College stats courtesy of http://www.databasebasketball.com

Jason Kidd FT%= 67.7%
Baron Davis FT%= 63.1%
Jeremy Pargo FT%= 68.7%
Allen Iverson FT%= 68.3%
Andre Miller FT%= 67.6%

What do all of these players have in common according to GB1? None of them belong(ed) in College Basketball. Maybe it's because they all belong in the NBA!

You are making this too easy. Did I not say recruit guards with 70% FT percentages? I guess I have to explain to you that when you recruit a college player, you look at HS stats. I also did some checking, and for the season, Cam is right at 70%, so maybe I should have looked at that first. By the way, Jason Kidd averaged 25 pts, 10 assists, 7 rebounds, and 7 steals his Sr season in HS, and his FT percentage was over 70% at St Joseph of Notre Dame in Alameda. He was also named the Naismith POY, so I guess I can see why you tried to compare Kidd to Cam. I still personally would not recruit HS (do you get it now) guards that aren't at 70% or higher at the line. Sinc eyou mentioned Kidd, one of the best PG's in NBA history, care to guess what the FT percentages of Magic, Stockton, Oscar Robertson, Isaih Thomas, Bob Cousy, Walt Frazier, Steve Nash, Tiny Archibald were? They are in the top 10 all time PG's. I think it is safe to say your arguement was silly, at best.

You still said that they don't belong in COLLEGE BB. That's the main thing. I don't care about your hypothetical recruiting schemes. You said that guards who cannot make FT's do not belong in COLLEGE BB. Give it up, GB1.

All of those other players are beyond the scope of the discussion. It would be very dangerous, in fact, to call what I'm doing arguing. It's a fact that you said what you said. It's fine if you think all of these guys I listed did not belong in COLLEGE BB; but I'll have to disagree with you. One thing you cannot argue, is the fact that you said it. There is no argument.

 

[Grizbacker1]

You know, I was thinking about your position GB1 (that you wouldn't recruit a guard who shoots under 70% from the line, and those who do don't belong in CBB), and I have to say that now I see what you mean:

These players' College stats courtesy of http://www.databasebasketball.com

Jason Kidd FT%= 67.7%
Baron Davis FT%= 63.1%
Jeremy Pargo FT%= 68.7%
Allen Iverson FT%= 68.3%
Andre Miller FT%= 67.6%

What do all of these players have in common according to GB1? None of them belong(ed) in College Basketball. Maybe it's because they all belong in the NBA!

You are making this too easy. Did I not say recruit guards with 70% FT percentages? I guess I have to explain to you that when you recruit a college player, you look at HS stats. I also did some checking, and for the season, Cam is right at 70%, so maybe I should have looked at that first. By the way, Jason Kidd averaged 25 pts, 10 assists, 7 rebounds, and 7 steals his Sr season in HS, and his FT percentage was over 70% at St Joseph of Notre Dame in Alameda. He was also named the Naismith POY, so I guess I can see why you tried to compare Kidd to Cam. I still personally would not recruit HS (do you get it now) guards that aren't at 70% or higher at the line. Sinc eyou mentioned Kidd, one of the best PG's in NBA history, care to guess what the FT percentages of Magic, Stockton, Oscar Robertson, Isaih Thomas, Bob Cousy, Walt Frazier, Steve Nash, Tiny Archibald were? They are in the top 10 all time PG's. I think it is safe to say your arguement was silly, at best.

You still said that they don't belong in COLLEGE BB. That's the main thing. I don't care about your hypothetical recruiting schemes. You said that guards who cannot make FT's do not belong in COLLEGE BB. Give it up, GB1.

All of those other players are beyond the scope of the discussion. It would be very dangerous, in fact, to call what I'm doing arguing. It's a fact that you said what you said. It's fine if you think all of these guys I listed did not belong in COLLEGE BB; but I'll have to disagree with you. One thing you cannot argue, is the fact that you said it. There is no argument.

You might as well click your heels together 3 times, because you know damn well what I said. I said I personally wouldn't recruit kids who aren't 70% HS FT shooters, then you post NBA guys college stats, which was not what I was talking about. You at least should try to be factual. I love how you are spinning your slam of Hasquet too. If you didn't really slam him like you now contend, why did you admit at first you wouldn't say it to his face? That was a rhetorical question, so don't bother replying. Once again, for the 3rd time, if you want to continue this lunacy, do it via PM. I am done with this thread, there is a new game coming Thursday.