Griz to Finish 3rd in Big Sky

[NLGrizFan]

Take DM off your team and how do you think they'd fare?

Prukop Is the man, will be a better QB than DM, just wont have the career stats because he wont start for 4 years.

The Q.B. Effect :roll: - russell wilson, peyton manning, colin kaepernick, johnny manziel. The performance of a team improves exponentially with the addition of a solid performer at the q.b. position. Afterall, he touches the ball on almost EVERY f.....g play. This is NOT rocket science. :roll: Improved scoring, time of posession, and confidence to name a "few". The addition of an EXPERIENCED 60% passer, 3000 yards and about 30 tds isn't a game changer ?? :stfu: The positive influence on a "tired" 2012 "D" ??...priceless. The Griz have an AWESOME group of returning linebackers and a super "D" line. However, we'll see how it plays out... You can talk the smack... ** CLOWN. :egriz: ** However you have absolutely NO clue how prukop is going to pan out.

So.. you have no clue how most of your skill position players will turn out this year :thumb:

And you do? Considering all the new blocking schemes and all the changes the sCats have made. I see a 2011 season coming up all over again for both teams.

 

[firmgriz]

I think this post may have touched upon the most important point of all in this debate of coaching and players. Leadership from the team and the kids actually on the field. This year will be interesting for the Griz. Are the older players able to carry the load and get the younger kids to believe? Believe in winning and closing out close games. I think there are enough who were part of the team when they lost to SHSU in the semis. They know the history, tradition and expectations of the program. The cants have a different tradition and honestly I am not sure DM believes they can win the NC or even get close. Nothing over the past three years demonstrates they can and quite frankly the team looks lost in big playoff games. Simply lost and they appear to lack belief in themselves. I don't see kids stepping up. Can the Griz go back to be a dominating force? I think they will, possibly much faster than many on this board believe. The cants just don't get it done and I don't believe that is going to change. They have a president who gets it, but they need a culture change within the program. Mediocrity is embraced and will continue to be. The folks in Bozo believe anything after the BSC Championship is just gravy and they are like a kitten with catnip when the playoffs come around.

Ha ha... Well that's certainly an interesting little theory. See you in November! :thumb:

Here's an interesting little theory: Towards the end of the season, a top 3 in the nation team (MSU) could only win by 9 points against a worst Griz season in 30 years. I think the sCats are in some serious trouble this season at The Brawl. As usual.

Really, you are going with that theory? I seem to remember that in 1995 that the national champion only beat a 5-6 MSU team by 9 points. Must have been a very weak field in the playoffs that year :lol:

2506, the cats sucked soooooo bad in the mid 90s that it was never a game. It was boring to play the cats because there was no doubt whatsoever about the outcome. It was booooring to play the cats during that era. It was akin to a no win situation for the Griz. The cats were so bad and the Griz so good that the Griz couldn't "win" unless they blew the cats out (as you just proved with your know-nothing comment).

It was a challenge to get excited to play the cats in the mid-90s. How does that little nugget of truth make you feel? Obviously the cats have improved and the rivalry is better for it, but you can't possibly question to strength of the 95 Griz, the weakness of the 95 cats or the achievement of the 95 Griz winning the chipper on the road against an excellent Marshall team at Marshall.

Just once in a while try to put your thinking cap on 2506, you embarrass your team and fanbase otherwise.

 

[Cats2506]

Ha ha... Well that's certainly an interesting little theory. See you in November! :thumb:

Here's an interesting little theory: Towards the end of the season, a top 3 in the nation team (MSU) could only win by 9 points against a worst Griz season in 30 years. I think the sCats are in some serious trouble this season at The Brawl. As usual.

Really, you are going with that theory? I seem to remember that in 1995 that the national champion only beat a 5-6 MSU team by 9 points. Must have been a very weak field in the playoffs that year :lol:

2506, the cats sucked soooooo bad in the mid 90s that it was never a game. It was boring to play the cats because there was no doubt whatsoever about the outcome. It was booooring to play the cats during that era. It was akin to a no win situation for the Griz. The cats were so bad and the Griz so good that the Griz couldn't "win" unless they blew the cats out (as you just proved with your know-nothing comment).

It was a challenge to get excited to play the cats in the mid-90s. How does that little nugget of truth make you feel? Obviously the cats have improved and the rivalry is better for it, but you can't possibly question to strength of the 95 Griz, the weakness of the 95 cats or the achievement of the 95 Griz winning the chipper on the road against an excellent Marshall team at Marshall.

Just once in a while try to put your thinking cap on 2506, you embarrass your team and fanbase otherwise.

uh huh, I think you made my point :roll:

 

[Hammer]

Here's an interesting little theory: Towards the end of the season, a top 3 in the nation team (MSU) could only win by 9 points against a worst Griz season in 30 years. I think the sCats are in some serious trouble this season at The Brawl. As usual.

Really, you are going with that theory? I seem to remember that in 1995 that the national champion only beat a 5-6 MSU team by 9 points. Must have been a very weak field in the playoffs that year :lol:

2506, the cats sucked soooooo bad in the mid 90s that it was never a game. It was boring to play the cats because there was no doubt whatsoever about the outcome. It was booooring to play the cats during that era. It was akin to a no win situation for the Griz. The cats were so bad and the Griz so good that the Griz couldn't "win" unless they blew the cats out (as you just proved with your know-nothing comment).

It was a challenge to get excited to play the cats in the mid-90s. How does that little nugget of truth make you feel? Obviously the cats have improved and the rivalry is better for it, but you can't possibly question to strength of the 95 Griz, the weakness of the 95 cats or the achievement of the 95 Griz winning the chipper on the road against an excellent Marshall team at Marshall.

Just once in a while try to put your thinking cap on 2506, you embarrass your team and fanbase otherwise.

uh huh, I think you made my point :roll:

That you're a dumbass??? Ok.

 

[bozely]

All you guys can do is talk... That's it. You want to ignore last year like it didn't happen, and pretend you're still the king of the hill.... But you're not. You've been dethroned, but most of you just won't admit it. So from the 5-6 debacle last year you've got the same coaching staff returning, and basically the same team, with the addition of one player, JJ, and we're supposed to be scared? I think JJ is a good QB, but we're not talking about Johnny Manziel here. DM and crew have taken you down two of the last three years, and come November, will be three. :thumb:

Take DM off your team and how do you think they'd fare?

Prukop Is the man, will be a better QB than DM, just wont have the career stats because he wont start for 4 years.

Actual quote from one of my friends on the team: "Actually, we're going to be better next year." in response to the same question posed by one of my coworkers. We really are incredibly stacked at QB, so much so that we will be more or less using DM as another running back a lot this year.

 

[rimrockgriz]

All you guys can do is talk... That's it. You want to ignore last year like it didn't happen, and pretend you're still the king of the hill.... But you're not. You've been dethroned, but most of you just won't admit it. So from the 5-6 debacle last year you've got the same coaching staff returning, and basically the same team, with the addition of one player, JJ, and we're supposed to be scared? I think JJ is a good QB, but we're not talking about Johnny Manziel here. DM and crew have taken you down two of the last three years, and come November, will be three. :thumb:

Take DM off your team and how do you think they'd fare?

Prukop Is the man, will be a better QB than DM, just wont have the career stats because he wont start for 4 years.

Actual quote from one of my friends on the team: "Actually, we're going to be better next year." in response to the same question posed by one of my coworkers. We really are incredibly stacked at QB, so much so that we will be more or less using DM as another running back a lot this year.

Problem is your friend isn't coaching the team...at least as of today. Denardo will be out there taking the "lions share of the snaps". Re: multiple q.b.s - Remember..."3 nickels doesn't equal a quarter". :egriz:

 

[bozely]

Take DM off your team and how do you think they'd fare?

Prukop Is the man, will be a better QB than DM, just wont have the career stats because he wont start for 4 years.

Actual quote from one of my friends on the team: "Actually, we're going to be better next year." in response to the same question posed by one of my coworkers. We really are incredibly stacked at QB, so much so that we will be more or less using DM as another running back a lot this year.

Problem is your friend isn't coaching the team...at least as of today. Denardo will be out there taking the "lions share of the snaps". Re: multiple q.b.s - Remember..."3 nickels doesn't equal a quarter". :egriz:

It's like it's trying to communicate... were you trying to make a point?

 

[EverettGriz]

bozely, you're too good a poster to be mixed up with this "Who's Who of Shitty bobkitten Posters", thread.

 

[George Ferguson]

Wow. first 2506 (who invented the eat-sh-t griz, go cats go chant), now bozely say Prukop is better than DM and bozely claims Bobcat players are saing DM is not the team's true QB this season.. Thanks for giving me a burning question to ask Coach Ash at his public Q&A at the MCA next week! Wonder what his response will be?

 

[Cats2506]

Wow. first 2506 (who invented the eat-sh-t griz, go cats go chant), now bozely say Prukop is better than DM and bozely claims Bobcat players are saing DM is not the team's true QB this season.. Thanks for giving me a burning question to ask Coach Ash at his public Q&A at the MCA next week! Wonder what his response will be?

I didnt see where bozely ever said that DM wouldn't be the starting QB, what he said is that we would use his running abilities more than in the past (because the coaches and the team have confidence in the backups should they be needed).

A better question to ask Coach Ash would be how much confidence does he have in his stable of backup QB should something happen to DM

Are all e-fizzers this stupid or do you have to work at it?

 

[George Ferguson]

2506, that's not what he said and you know it. I don't need to ask Ash what he thinks of DM anyway. He was quoted as saying DM is one of the best QB's in the FCS, and I totally agree with him. Unless DM suffers a game-ending injury, season-ending injury or the Cats are up 30 in the 4th, Prukop, Bleskin and Trod aren't dropping back to throw any passes. There is NO QB on the Cats' roster better than DM. Period. End of story.

 

[bozely]

Wow. first 2506 (who invented the eat-sh-t griz, go cats go chant), now bozely say Prukop is better than DM and bozely claims Bobcat players are saing DM is not the team's true QB this season.. Thanks for giving me a burning question to ask Coach Ash at his public Q&A at the MCA next week! Wonder what his response will be?

Go for it! But Dmac is the unquestioned leader of this team. I don't believe I stated at all that the players didn't think DM was a leader? My only point there was that we have incredible talent at QB backing him up so we can utilize him in a more aggressive way.

I do agree that before this was impossible for lack of a decent replacement.

 

[Cats2506]

Wow. first 2506 (who invented the eat-sh-t griz, go cats go chant), now bozely say Prukop is better than DM and bozely claims Bobcat players are saing DM is not the team's true QB this season.. Thanks for giving me a burning question to ask Coach Ash at his public Q&A at the MCA next week! Wonder what his response will be?

Go for it! But Dmac is the unquestioned leader of this team. I don't believe I stated at all that the players didn't think DM was a leader? My only point there was that we have incredible talent at QB backing him up so we can utilize him in a more aggressive way.

I do agree that before this was impossible for lack of a decent replacement.

ahem; hey havre :lol:

 

[bozely]

bozely, you're too good a poster to be mixed up with this "Who's Who of Shitty bobkitten Posters", thread.

You're right, I need to keep my sarcasm to a minimum here, I do understand it's an opponents board.

 

[ABQCat]

Cramsey is on record as saying we will be running DM much more this year. The 1-4 designed runs last year will be more like 7-12 this year. Yes, a big reason for the change in philosophy is that Cramsey and Ash have full confidence in our #'s 2 and 3 QBs (it's not yet known who will be in which spot come kickoff time). In 2011, we were all aware that the ONLY QB we had on the bench was Grayson Galloway (who sucked). In 2012, Jake Bleskin was a freshman and would have done ok, but not much more than ok. There was a reasonable chance that Prukop was going to burn his redshirt if DM went down, so much like 2011 we were very conservative with the play calling. Everything is different for 2013. I mean everything. Both the RS Sophomore version of Bleskin and/or Prukop showed in spring that they are fully ready to step in and be successful. Everything is different this year and Cramsey knows it. We will see the full potential of DM for the first time, and only time will tell if it's a good decision or not (meaning that if DM goes down with a major injury in a designed run, many will be second guessing Cramsey and many will be calling for his head). For better or worse, rest assured that we will see an unleashed version DM in 2013.

 

[snap]

Why all the love for Chokee Mcghee by the cat fans? If he started for the Griz for 4 years and never got past the 2nd round of the playoffs he'd be considered a massive failure. I'd say that's a good indication of what the expectation level is for the kitties.

 

[PlayerRep]

Cramsey is on record as saying we will be running DM much more this year. The 1-4 designed runs last year will be more like 7-12 this year. Yes, a big reason for the change in philosophy is that Cramsey and Ash have full confidence in our #'s 2 and 3 QBs (it's not yet known who will be in which spot come kickoff time). In 2011, we were all aware that the ONLY QB we had on the bench was Grayson Galloway (who sucked). In 2012, Jake Bleskin was a freshman and would have done ok, but not much more than ok. There was a reasonable chance that Prukop was going to burn his redshirt if DM went down, so much like 2011 we were very conservative with the play calling. Everything is different for 2013. I mean everything. Both the RS Sophomore version of Bleskin and/or Prukop showed in spring that they are fully ready to step in and be successful. Everything is different this year and Cramsey knows it. We will see the full potential of DM for the first time, and only time will tell if it's a good decision or not (meaning that if DM goes down with a major injury in a designed run, many will be second guessing Cramsey and many will be calling for his head). For better or worse, rest assured that we will see an unleashed version DM in 2013.

Interesting on McGhee running more, if true. Also, nice overview post. Thx. I have always liked McGhee. He's been very good, a leader on the field, a big play maker, good at throwing from scrambles and broken plays, and has shown the ability to shake off mistakes and come back. However, is he tough enough to run? Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always thought he was a bit of a pussy. Many qb's are; not intended as a knock.

 

[Hammer]

Cramsey is on record as saying we will be running DM much more this year. The 1-4 designed runs last year will be more like 7-12 this year. Yes, a big reason for the change in philosophy is that Cramsey and Ash have full confidence in our #'s 2 and 3 QBs (it's not yet known who will be in which spot come kickoff time). In 2011, we were all aware that the ONLY QB we had on the bench was Grayson Galloway (who sucked). In 2012, Jake Bleskin was a freshman and would have done ok, but not much more than ok. There was a reasonable chance that Prukop was going to burn his redshirt if DM went down, so much like 2011 we were very conservative with the play calling. Everything is different for 2013. I mean everything. Both the RS Sophomore version of Bleskin and/or Prukop showed in spring that they are fully ready to step in and be successful. Everything is different this year and Cramsey knows it. We will see the full potential of DM for the first time, and only time will tell if it's a good decision or not (meaning that if DM goes down with a major injury in a designed run, many will be second guessing Cramsey and many will be calling for his head). For better or worse, rest assured that we will see an unleashed version DM in 2013.

Interesting on McGhee running more, if true. Also, nice overview post. Thx. I have always liked McGhee. He's been very good, a leader on the field, a big play maker, good at throwing from scrambles and broken plays, and has shown the ability to shake off mistakes and come back. However, is he tough enough to run? Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always thought he was a bit of a pussy. Many qb's are; not intended as a knock.

I disagree PR. I think he is a very poor passer once protection breaks down, that is when most of his INT's occur. He is good at gaining a few yards with his feet. He is also slippery. Rarely do you see a defender just unload on him. He has a way of avoiding the big hit. I can't remember if I have ever seen him blown up by a defender.

 

[Cats2506]

Cramsey is on record as saying we will be running DM much more this year. The 1-4 designed runs last year will be more like 7-12 this year. Yes, a big reason for the change in philosophy is that Cramsey and Ash have full confidence in our #'s 2 and 3 QBs (it's not yet known who will be in which spot come kickoff time). In 2011, we were all aware that the ONLY QB we had on the bench was Grayson Galloway (who sucked). In 2012, Jake Bleskin was a freshman and would have done ok, but not much more than ok. There was a reasonable chance that Prukop was going to burn his redshirt if DM went down, so much like 2011 we were very conservative with the play calling. Everything is different for 2013. I mean everything. Both the RS Sophomore version of Bleskin and/or Prukop showed in spring that they are fully ready to step in and be successful. Everything is different this year and Cramsey knows it. We will see the full potential of DM for the first time, and only time will tell if it's a good decision or not (meaning that if DM goes down with a major injury in a designed run, many will be second guessing Cramsey and many will be calling for his head). For better or worse, rest assured that we will see an unleashed version DM in 2013.

Interesting on McGhee running more, if true. Also, nice overview post. Thx. I have always liked McGhee. He's been very good, a leader on the field, a big play maker, good at throwing from scrambles and broken plays, and has shown the ability to shake off mistakes and come back. However, is he tough enough to run? Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always thought he was a bit of a pussy. Many qb's are; not intended as a knock.

:lol: :lol: I seem to remember that freshman year (before shoulder surgery) his shoulder was dislocated on at least 2 occasions, I think he only missed one play while he went out and had it popped back in. He has been taking hits in the conference for 3 years now and I can only remember him missing a couple of plays. Your ignorance is astounding

 

[Cats2506]

Cramsey is on record as saying we will be running DM much more this year. The 1-4 designed runs last year will be more like 7-12 this year. Yes, a big reason for the change in philosophy is that Cramsey and Ash have full confidence in our #'s 2 and 3 QBs (it's not yet known who will be in which spot come kickoff time). In 2011, we were all aware that the ONLY QB we had on the bench was Grayson Galloway (who sucked). In 2012, Jake Bleskin was a freshman and would have done ok, but not much more than ok. There was a reasonable chance that Prukop was going to burn his redshirt if DM went down, so much like 2011 we were very conservative with the play calling. Everything is different for 2013. I mean everything. Both the RS Sophomore version of Bleskin and/or Prukop showed in spring that they are fully ready to step in and be successful. Everything is different this year and Cramsey knows it. We will see the full potential of DM for the first time, and only time will tell if it's a good decision or not (meaning that if DM goes down with a major injury in a designed run, many will be second guessing Cramsey and many will be calling for his head). For better or worse, rest assured that we will see an unleashed version DM in 2013.

Interesting on McGhee running more, if true. Also, nice overview post. Thx. I have always liked McGhee. He's been very good, a leader on the field, a big play maker, good at throwing from scrambles and broken plays, and has shown the ability to shake off mistakes and come back. However, is he tough enough to run? Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always thought he was a bit of a pussy. Many qb's are; not intended as a knock.

I disagree PR. I think he is a very poor passer once protection breaks down, that is when most of his INT's occur. He is good at gaining a few yards with his feet. He is also slippery. Rarely do you see a defender just unload on him. He has a way of avoiding the big hit. I can't remember if I have ever seen him blown up by a defender.

His So year he took a big hit from that DL from EWU (dont remember the name) didn't seem to phase DM, I just remember that one in particular because it was a decleating type of hit and really showed his toughness.