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Griz @ Southern Utah Game ONE #"Down the pickle barrel baby!"

HelenaHandBasket said:
UMFan12 said:
Ok, so someone else explain the scoring lapses against BSC teams then? Maybe it’s because. Oh I don’t know. The offense doesn’t work.

Lacking perimeter shooters doesn't help.
This applied even when we had shooters. We had Manuel, Rorie, Oguine, Dorsey, Akoh, etc on the same roster and struggled to score in the BSC. It’s the system, not the players. Defensively, DeCuire couldn’t be much better except for sometimes some questionable decisions like putting Bannan on White in the final seconds. But overall, not much to complain about defensively. It’s offensively I have some issues.
 
UMFan12 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Lacking perimeter shooters doesn't help.
This applied even when we had shooters. We had Manuel, Rorie, Oguine, Dorsey, Akoh, etc on the same roster and struggled to score in the BSC. It’s the system, not the players. Defensively, DeCuire couldn’t be much better except for sometimes some questionable decisions like putting Bannan on White in the final seconds. But overall, not much to complain about defensively. It’s offensively I have some issues.

The outrage after a 1 point road loss with a team that had played one game together.
 
I have a feeling if bannon shut down JK3 on that last drive 99% here would be taking about what a genius move that was by Decuire 😂

This game went sideways when the officials called a 3 pt flop foul and then swallowed the whistle on an over the back by suu after FT and then didn’t swallow the whistle when 99.9% of good refs do at the end of the game that would go overtime.

40 FTs by SUU and 17 for the Griz. Unbelievable.
 
UMFan12 said:
Griz til I die said:
As much as we can blame the refs, at some point we need to stop fouling over and over again! This has been the Staple of Decuires program. Year and year out, we’ve got to be one of the highest fouling teams in college basketball every year. There’s no reason any team should shoot 40 free throws in a game ever! I knew after Vasquez tied the game that we were gonna lose, because the same thing happened at NAU last year and multiple other occasions. Until we start fouling less, we’re in for a long season!
Somebody else gets it? Wow never thought I’d see that.

Can’t play the kind of D Decuire requires without your share of fouls....and then when you add the shitty calls on top of that, you get 40 FT’s for the opponent...
 
HookedonGriz said:
I have a feeling if bannon shut down JK3 on that last drive 99% here would be taking about what a genius move that was by Decuire 😂

This game went sideways when the officials called a 3 pt flop foul and then swallowed the whistle on an over the back by suu after FT and then didn’t swallow the whistle when 99.9% of good refs do at the end of the game that would go overtime.

40 FTs by SUU and 17 for the Griz. Unbelievable.

Great post.

Some on here go to such ridiculous lengths to defend the shitty officiating in this conference rhat they refuse to call dogshit dogshit, even after watching it with their very own eyes.
 
you realize we’re blaming the refs for calling us for to many fouls right? Like at the end of the game with 3 sec left!, or the prior 5 points they made...so when an opponent player tries to shoot a shot over 3 Griz what should they do? Just get out of the way and let him have a layup and then tell him how handsome and smart you think he is, give him $20 out of your wallet for being a staple of society.......fuck the big sky refs, they have been fucking the Griz since the Griz have been fucking Vegas point spreads
Griz til I die said:
As much as we can blame the refs, at some point we need to stop fouling over and over again! This has been the Staple of Decuires program. Year and year out, we’ve got to be one of the highest fouling teams in college basketball every year. There’s no reason any team should shoot 40 free throws in a game ever! I knew after Vasquez tied the game that we were gonna lose, because the same thing happened at NAU last year and multiple other occasions. Until we start fouling less, we’re in for a long season!
 
at the same time the Griz don’t shoot a foul for 39.5 min of a game, and then the reason they get to the line is to make sure nau gets the ball back with enough time to win.....fuck big sky refs, I hope they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, that foul tonight with 3 seconds left was worth losing your job motherfucking red, didn’t even let the guy get close to a shot, he just dribbled towed the Griz player and insta whistle
DPGriz said:
MikeyGriz said:
How much of last season had us in this same position also?

A lot. We had 4 guys in top 11 in the Big Sky in terms of fouls. Mack was 11th in the conference in fouls last year while only playing 12 mpg.
 
A lot of perceptive comments on this game, which still boil down to the Griz being a very young team that's still learning how to play together. I think the refs played like it was their first game as well :D

Much of this game was dictated by fouls, so 9 of the 10 players who suited up played double digit minutes. Regardless of the outcome, I nonetheless think it's good for every player to get a lot of minutes in early season games. It's the best individual test to give everyone the minutes to prove their mettle. In that regard, I think this game was good for Anderson. He seemed to visibly loosen up and improve his play.

As early as it is, I think the scouting report on Montana is to prevent them from entering the ball into the low blocks (by drive or pass), and as a result, give them a cushion on the perimeter. USC certainly played that way.

I think Montana has a good offense, but no offense in today's game will be good if a defending team can "pack the paint" because they know the other team cannot shoot from the perimeter. A potent D1 team usually has a point guard who can pull up and shoot the 3 when the defense gives it to him (Ahmaad Rorie). I think the following late-action play illustrates my point (even though Vazquez made the trey and so it ended up being a great play). Observe how much space the SUU defense is allowing the point. I'm hoping that's an anomaly and that C. Parker and wing player Satterwhite can loosen up & start hitting from the perimeter like I've heard they're capable. But over two games, their combined stats are: Satterwhite 2-for-13 (0-7 on treys); Parker 4-14 (1-5). Both USC and SUU played off of Parker and Satterwhite, most likely respecting their ability to drive, but also, in effect, giving them the open trey. I'm hoping one or both can snap the shooting slump & start knocking them down... I'm pulling for them.

[media]https://twitter.com/MontanaGrizBB/status/1334709442063990790[/media]
 
+1
Big sky refs will eventually get caught taking $ under the table :D :D :D
HookedonGriz said:
I have a feeling if bannon shut down JK3 on that last drive 99% here would be taking about what a genius move that was by Decuire 😂

This game went sideways when the officials called a 3 pt flop foul and then swallowed the whistle on an over the back by suu after FT and then didn’t swallow the whistle when 99.9% of good refs do at the end of the game that would go overtime.

40 FTs by SUU and 17 for the Griz. Unbelievable.
 
+1
EverettGriz said:
HookedonGriz said:
I have a feeling if bannon shut down JK3 on that last drive 99% here would be taking about what a genius move that was by Decuire 😂

This game went sideways when the officials called a 3 pt flop foul and then swallowed the whistle on an over the back by suu after FT and then didn’t swallow the whistle when 99.9% of good refs do at the end of the game that would go overtime.

40 FTs by SUU and 17 for the Griz. Unbelievable.

Great post.

Some on here go to such ridiculous lengths to defend the shitty officiating in this conference rhat they refuse to call dogshit dogshit, even after watching it with their very own eyes.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Parker’s form is horrid. I haven’t seen worse form on a 3-point stroke since Shawn Marion.

:cry:
Look I am really rooting for this guy to get it all together but......when he got those 24 assists who were they playing ...?
 
grizzlyjournal said:
A lot of perceptive comments on this game, which still boil down to the Griz being a very young team that's still learning how to play together. I think the refs played like it was their first game as well :D

Much of this game was dictated by fouls, so 9 of the 10 players who suited up played double digit minutes. Regardless of the outcome, I nonetheless think it's good for every player to get a lot of minutes in early season games. It's the best individual test to give everyone the minutes to prove their mettle. In that regard, I think this game was good for Anderson. He seemed to visibly loosen up and improve his play.

As early as it is, I think the scouting report on Montana is to prevent them from entering the ball into the low blocks (by drive or pass), and as a result, give them a cushion on the perimeter. USC certainly played that way.

I think Montana has a good offense, but no offense in today's game will be good if a defending team can "pack the paint" because they know the other team cannot shoot from the perimeter. A potent D1 team usually has a point guard who can pull up and shoot the 3 when the defense gives it to him (Ahmaad Rorie). I think the following late-action play illustrates my point (even though Vazquez made the trey and so it ended up being a great play). Observe how much space the SUU defense is allowing the point. I'm hoping that's an anomaly and that C. Parker and wing player Satterwhite can loosen up & start hitting from the perimeter like I've heard they're capable. But over two games, their combined stats are: Satterwhite 2-for-13 (0-7 on treys); Parker 4-14 (1-5). Both USC and SUU played off of Parker and Satterwhite, most likely respecting their ability to drive, but also, in effect, giving them the open trey. I'm hoping one or both can snap the shooting slump & start knocking them down... I'm pulling for them.

[media]https://twitter.com/MontanaGrizBB/status/1334709442063990790[/media]

Rorie was not a good shooter from 3. Look at how the ball comes out of Satterwhite and Parkers hands, they aint making 40% in a empty Gym. Ive said it before the problem with Griz teams is not that they can't get good looks, its that it dont make no difference if they are wide open. Wide open or hand in face there is about 30% chance for outside shots to go in. It is what it is, have to work around it, but it make things so much harder. I we make 2 more open shots per game that 5-6 points and it a 10pt game come down the stretch not a 4pt.
 
HookedonGriz said:
I have a feeling if bannon shut down JK3 on that last drive 99% here would be taking about what a genius move that was by Decuire 😂

This game went sideways when the officials called a 3 pt flop foul and then swallowed the whistle on an over the back by suu after FT and then didn’t swallow the whistle when 99.9% of good refs do at the end of the game that would go overtime.

40 FTs by SUU and 17 for the Griz. Unbelievable.

Good 2d para.
 
...didn't see it but reading this thread...
...take the pea out of the guys whistle...
...throwing the flag on a bullsiht homer job....

... :shit: ...
 
UMFan12 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Lacking perimeter shooters doesn't help.
This applied even when we had shooters. We had Manuel, Rorie, Oguine, Dorsey, Akoh, etc on the same roster and struggled to score in the BSC. It’s the system, not the players. Defensively, DeCuire couldn’t be much better except for sometimes some questionable decisions like putting Bannan on White in the final seconds. But overall, not much to complain about defensively. It’s offensively I have some issues.

This post caught my attention. UM really doesn't have any of those 5, yet. Needed one or two of them last night. I think the team has some of those guys in the making, tho.
 
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