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Griz Rumor: to 1-A
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Grizbacker1
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TheBud said:
He has no point! Kind of reminds you of you know who doesn't it?
TheBud
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Turd Ferguson said:
Turd,
I can respect your opinions on this. We can agree to disagree on the move to I-A.
Regarding your point on TRUE fans, how many do you think that we have? Look around the stands at the second-half kick-off and that is about as many TRUE fans will be there no-matter-what...
Sad to say, although I would be there with you, the stadium would only be about 60% full without consistent winning seasons. And, if we were getting our asses kicked in a game the stadium would clear out at the end of the 3rd like Idaho State's and NAU's last year...
theblackgecko
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GB,
Montana would not make a move to I-AA without running a formal cost benefit analysis to determine the financial feasability of being a WAC program (which would also formally answer the money questions that everyone throws around). Montana would be able to make the move if it can be shown to be feasable from a financial perspective. On the other hand, Montana State's athletic programs are heavily subsidized from state money (to the tune of nearly $1M per year more than Montana). Montana has the resources to join the WAC, Montana State does not. Show the regents that the money is better in the WAC, and they won't stop Montana from going, regardless of what Montana State does.
One other thing is that joining the WAC would give Montana additional scholarships. The athletic department exists to convert fan and alumni dollars into cash for students. If it would better serve that function in the WAC, it should be in the WAC. If it would better serve that function in the 'Sky, it should be in the 'Sky.
What concerns me is that the university is unlikely to do such an analysis as long as King George is in power. Montana has had an obscene amount of revenue diverted away from the athletic department, which would come to light if a formal study were done.
Montana would not make a move to I-AA without running a formal cost benefit analysis to determine the financial feasability of being a WAC program (which would also formally answer the money questions that everyone throws around). Montana would be able to make the move if it can be shown to be feasable from a financial perspective. On the other hand, Montana State's athletic programs are heavily subsidized from state money (to the tune of nearly $1M per year more than Montana). Montana has the resources to join the WAC, Montana State does not. Show the regents that the money is better in the WAC, and they won't stop Montana from going, regardless of what Montana State does.
One other thing is that joining the WAC would give Montana additional scholarships. The athletic department exists to convert fan and alumni dollars into cash for students. If it would better serve that function in the WAC, it should be in the WAC. If it would better serve that function in the 'Sky, it should be in the 'Sky.
What concerns me is that the university is unlikely to do such an analysis as long as King George is in power. Montana has had an obscene amount of revenue diverted away from the athletic department, which would come to light if a formal study were done.
Grizbacker1
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theblackgecko said:
gecko,
With all due respect, if you think the powers that be would allow UM to move up and leave msu behind you are out of the loop. I have spoken with 3 different Regents, off the record they all say that it couldn't happen politically, one went as far as to say they preferred to live in the state without having to wear a Kevlar vest, I think they were somewhat serious. King George really doesn't have the final say on such a move anyway.
I honestly do not think the majority of Griz fans are in favor of such a move either. There are differring opinions on that no doubt, but if you ask someone if they would rather stay 1AA, compete for the BSC title each year and have a shot at the playoffs, or go 4-5, 5-5, 8-5, 7-4 while playing the likes of Idaho, Wyoming, San Jose State, Nevada, maybe have a chance at a bowl game in Boise every few years, then i think the answer is pretty clear. People that think the Griz can just step right in and compete probably think Carroll College could compete in 1AA.
grizpack said:
A new Wolfie?
theblackgecko
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GB, are those the same regents that have made Dennison the longest tenured president in the history of the University of Montana?
Chi-towngrizzly
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Five Million Dollars.
Grizbacker1
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theblackgecko said:
Actually no they are not the same ones. I don't know if you follow it all, but there have been some significant changes to the regents. Mercer as Chair, does not bow down to King George for starters.
ursusmissoulus
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Chi-towngrizzly said:
More like Five Million Personalities.
ursusmissoulus said:
Now THAT, was funny!
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NavyBlue said:
really
honestly i dont see any of the big sky teams, the way they played this year, going no better then 5-5 in even the weakest 1A conference..
OrgonGriz
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My God..
You guys can be so negative " we can't compete" I am glad you do not lead the way. If I was a kid on this team I would think man I can't belive how some of these fans think we could not compete. I bet everyone of them would love a shot at playing Fresno State and Boise and they DO belive they could run with them.. You are basically saying we want to recruit all the Montana kids we can but yah they can not compete on a higher level. I say BS to that.
Maybe for the sake of the "we have to win every game" crowd we should stay in our little box and never look to step out side of it to better this program. OR MAYBE we should go to D-II so we can win every game 55 to 7. Would that make the keep it safe crowd feeling good?
Ahh I feel better and that my :twocents:
You guys can be so negative " we can't compete" I am glad you do not lead the way. If I was a kid on this team I would think man I can't belive how some of these fans think we could not compete. I bet everyone of them would love a shot at playing Fresno State and Boise and they DO belive they could run with them.. You are basically saying we want to recruit all the Montana kids we can but yah they can not compete on a higher level. I say BS to that.
Maybe for the sake of the "we have to win every game" crowd we should stay in our little box and never look to step out side of it to better this program. OR MAYBE we should go to D-II so we can win every game 55 to 7. Would that make the keep it safe crowd feeling good?
Ahh I feel better and that my :twocents:
