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Griz Pipeline: Bellevue High

Opening up a deeper Lakes High pipeline certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings any. Lakes is further south, a little south of Tacoma and another Washington 3A powerhouse. Drew Miller is the biggest name that comes to mind, but landing Marquin Russell is a major plus. If I'm not mistaken, a few years back Lakes sent 9 kids off to play D1 football.
 
go96griz said:
Probably should add Ari Morales who planned to walk on here after a horrible knee injury last year. Went the Jc route instead hoping to get a big time offer like he deserved before the injury. Would he great to get him back at UM.

I too hope he realizes Montana is home for him. :thumb:
 
OldtiredGRiz said:
Opening up a deeper Lakes High pipeline certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings any. Lakes is further south, a little south of Tacoma and another Washington 3A powerhouse. Drew Miller is the biggest name that comes to mind, but landing Marquin Russell is a major plus. If I'm not mistaken, a few years back Lakes sent 9 kids off to play D1 football.

Unfortunately, many of Lakes' athletes go without Division I or Division II athletic opportunities for several reasons. Most importantly, Lakes' coaches and athletic director don't proactively communicate with the local media and national prep writers to enhance the athletic scholarship opportunities for female and male student athletes. Many parents are afraid to press the coaches and AD to provide stats to the media on a timely basis 'cause they're afraid of the coaches' or AD's repercussions. Additionally, coaches are hired without any notification to the community or Lakes alumni. Finally, Lakes' alumni aren't encouraged to reconnect with Lakes High School; there are no seamless channels for Lakes' alumni to support pending and current Lancers.

I'm a Lakes High School graduate. I'm a Lakes Football alum. My niece attended Lakes High School. My grand niece and grand nephew are student athletes at Lakes High School. My sons played football for Bellevue High School.

If Montana is lucky enough to sign recruits from Lakes or Bellevue, Montana will gain diamonds in the rough or diamonds.
 
PlayerRep said:
getgrizzy said:
PlayerRep said:
UM players Kanangota, Warren, VanAckerman and Nguyen.
thats a pipeline? only one is a proven good player and he's gone.

Bellevue is the biggest UM pipeline in recent years. Note that getgrizzy became very absent very soon. What an idiot.
no, getgrizzy just said his piece and left it at that. something you're apparently incapable of. but since you want me to pile on you were talking about current players and the nguyen that's on our roster now. of those listed only one, j.p., is proven and he's gone. warren caught 58 passes in his career, which is pedestrian. he's gone also. that leaves vanackerman and nguyen. too early to tell on either. nguyen will be the no. 4 back behind canada, van and counts next year. then as a junior he'll get his shot, unless someone else comes along. i don't see anyone on the roster that will beat him out, so he has a good chance to leave his mark those two years.

someone's absence to note is yours and other insiders in the a.p.r. thread. i thought you or brint would've diffused that one by now. what's up?

merry christmas p.r.!!!
 
getgrizzy said:
PlayerRep said:
getgrizzy said:
PlayerRep said:
UM players Kanangota, Warren, VanAckerman and Nguyen.
thats a pipeline? only one is a proven good player and he's gone.

Bellevue is the biggest UM pipeline in recent years. Note that getgrizzy became very absent very soon. What an idiot.
no, getgrizzy just said his piece and left it at that. something you're apparently incapable of. but since you want me to pile on you were talking about current players and the nguyen that's on our roster now. of those listed only one, j.p., is proven and he's gone. warren caught 58 passes in his career, which is pedestrian. he's gone also. that leaves vanackerman and nguyen. too early to tell on either. nguyen will be the no. 4 back behind canada, van and counts next year. then as a junior he'll get his shot, unless someone else comes along. i don't see anyone on the roster that will beat him out, so he has a good chance to leave his mark those two years.

someone's absence to note is yours and other insiders in the a.p.r. thread. i thought you or brint would've diffused that one by now. what's up?

merry christmas p.r.!!!

Why can't you just admit you're wrong--or slink away. Bellevue is the biggest UM pipeline in the past 5 years.

Your credibility on this subject is zero. Can't acknowledge last year's UM offensive MVP, Peter Nguyen, as a good player from Bellevue.

I have not heard of any UM apr problem. If you have, please post it.
 
OldtiredGRiz said:
Kodiak said:
Bellevue is a factory...they have won every championship since '01 except for 05 when Ferndale won it with Jake Locker and '07 won by Skyline (another powerhouse program who is now 4A).

It's a Texas type program in Washington State. Complete with a non-teacher coach who makes 90K. It's good for the Griz to be able to get their non-FBS recruits, they are well coached and have done well at UM. It will be interesting to see if Peterson can persuade Baker to sign with UW.....

The bulk of Coach G's (not going to try to spell his name) salary is paid by boosters and not the school. There's nothing wrong with it, it's perfectly legal under WIAA rules, but since Bellevue is a pretty affluent community, there is a lot of resentment about it. And as far as I know, Bellevue is the only community that pays the coach an extra stipend. And as you would expect, there is a lot of grumbling from rival schools about Bellevue recruiting kids to play there, but I think some of that is jealousy. Anyhow, I make it a point to get out and watch Bellevue play at least once per year.

Well said, Bellevue is definitely a factory, one that just keeps stamping out winners and college level talent.

The Coach G salary paid by the booster club used to be legal but as a result of their activities (allegedly done without the knowledge of their school board), the WIAA changed the rules to only allow gifts under$500 unless specifically approved by the board. Bellevue followed this up with an amended policy directed at their sports staff that stated:

Coaches and other staff will be paid pursuant to the District-established compensation schedule, and they may not solicit additional pay, gifts, or compensation of any kind for the services to be performed for the District from team members, students, parents, and booster clubs or other patrons or agencies. In accordance with WIAA Rule 23.0.0 no coach may receive a gift, stipend, or any other form of personal compensation from private individuals, team members, booster clubs, or otheragencies for the performance of their District-paid and assigned coaching responsibilities in excess of a total of $500 in a season unless expressly approved by the District’s Board of Directors. Whereas the Board of Directors may choose to entertain and authorize requests to allow gifts to individuals in excess of the $500 per coach per season, it is expected and acknowledged that the Board will do so only in circumstances that are truly extraordinary, extenuating, and unusual.

So if he's still drawing $90K it would be interesting to know where that extra amount above the annual stipend is coming from... Maybe the District decided winning at football was worth taking the booster club's money.
 
I'm sorry getgrizzly but you're just flat out wrong. Bellevue is a solid pipeline and if you can't accept that fact...that's sad.
 
Eriul said:
I'm sorry getgrizzly but you're just flat out wrong. Bellevue is a solid pipeline and if you can't accept that fact...that's sad.

It really, really, REALLY pains me to say this, but....Eriul is correct. :puke:
 
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
I'm sorry getgrizzly but you're just flat out wrong. Bellevue is a solid pipeline and if you can't accept that fact...that's sad.

It really, really, REALLY pains me to say this, but....Eriul is correct. :puke:

yeah i guess we can call it a pipeline. i change my mind.
 
Ken Jones said:
OldtiredGRiz said:
Opening up a deeper Lakes High pipeline certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings any. Lakes is further south, a little south of Tacoma and another Washington 3A powerhouse. Drew Miller is the biggest name that comes to mind, but landing Marquin Russell is a major plus. If I'm not mistaken, a few years back Lakes sent 9 kids off to play D1 football.

Unfortunately, many of Lakes' athletes go without Division I or Division II athletic opportunities for several reasons. Most importantly, Lakes' coaches and athletic director don't proactively communicate with the local media and national prep writers to enhance the athletic scholarship opportunities for female and male student athletes. Many parents are afraid to press the coaches and AD to provide stats to the media on a timely basis 'cause they're afraid of the coaches' or AD's repercussions. Additionally, coaches are hired without any notification to the community or Lakes alumni. Finally, Lakes' alumni aren't encouraged to reconnect with Lakes High School; there are no seamless channels for Lakes' alumni to support pending and current Lancers.

I'm a Lakes High School graduate. I'm a Lakes Football alum. My niece attended Lakes High School. My grand niece and grand nephew are student athletes at Lakes High School. My sons played football for Bellevue High School.

If Montana is lucky enough to sign recruits from Lakes or Bellevue, Montana will gain diamonds in the rough or diamonds.
I have to disagree with you, at least as far a football is concerned. Dave Miller busts his ass trying to get those players recruited. My son, son-in-law and several friends kids have played or are currently playing for Dave. Not everyone is good enough to play college football just because they play for a good high school team. But to say that coaches aren't doing their part is flat wrong, at least in this case. Also Dave has hired several former players back as coaches in order to keep the tradition of Lakes football alive and ensuring a connection to alumni.
 
Kodiak said:
indian-outlaw said:
PlayerRep said:
OldtiredGRiz said:
It's probably a long shot, but I'd love to see the Griz sign Morgan Richey, OL from Bellevue. He's 6'5" and 280. The only thing I've heard about Budda Baker comes from office water cooler gossip, but the current consensus is that it's between UCLA and UW, with USC in the picture now that Sarkesian has taken over as head coach.

Edit: Bellevue's recent 3A championship was the 6th in a row. Their current winning streak stands at 53, I believe.

I predict Oregon.
No, Huskies will land him.

Oregon it is....done deal.

Budda Baker decommitted from Oregon last week. Looks like he had a nice visit to UW. Says he will visit UCLA too.

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/01/budda_baker_talks_about_rescin.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
AZGrizFan said:
go96griz said:
Probably should add Ari Morales who planned to walk on here after a horrible knee injury last year. Went the Jc route instead hoping to get a big time offer like he deserved before the injury. Would he great to get him back at UM.

I too hope he realizes Montana is home for him. :thumb:

Lots of hype over him last year. He seemed like a bit of an odd duck. Is he still playing football?
 
wbtfg said:
AZGrizFan said:
go96griz said:
Probably should add Ari Morales who planned to walk on here after a horrible knee injury last year. Went the Jc route instead hoping to get a big time offer like he deserved before the injury. Would he great to get him back at UM.

I too hope he realizes Montana is home for him. :thumb:

Lots of hype over him last year. He seemed like a bit of an odd duck. Is he still playing football?

No, he enlisted in the Marine Corps.
 
PlayerRep said:
Bellevue won the WA 3A state championship. Star player Budda Baker was the player of the year. 7 first team all-state selections: 2 o-lineman, 1 d-lineman, 2 d-backs (including Baker), 1 linebacker, and 1 returner (Baker). 5 seniors and 1 junior. Some believe Baker is the best player to ever play at Bellevue. He's looking at the Pac-10. Don't know if he committed yet. UM has been talking to at least some Bellevue players.

UM players Kanangota, Warren, VanAckerman and Nguyen are from Bellevue. Anyone else?

Mark Rypien's nephew, a junior at Shadle Park, was the first team qb.

C'mon Man! It's Van Ackeren ... :roll:
 
OldtiredGRiz said:
Kodiak said:
Bellevue is a factory...they have won every championship since '01 except for 05 when Ferndale won it with Jake Locker and '07 won by Skyline (another powerhouse program who is now 4A).

It's a Texas type program in Washington State. Complete with a non-teacher coach who makes 90K. It's good for the Griz to be able to get their non-FBS recruits, they are well coached and have done well at UM. It will be interesting to see if Peterson can persuade Baker to sign with UW.....

The bulk of Coach G's (not going to try to spell his name) salary is paid by boosters and not the school. There's nothing wrong with it, it's perfectly legal under WIAA rules, but since Bellevue is a pretty affluent community, there is a lot of resentment about it. And as far as I know, Bellevue is the only community that pays the coach an extra stipend. And as you would expect, there is a lot of grumbling from rival schools about Bellevue recruiting kids to play there, but I think some of that is jealousy. Anyhow, I make it a point to get out and watch Bellevue play at least once per year.

Well said, Bellevue is definitely a factory, one that just keeps stamping out winners and college level talent.

If I resided in Seattle and my kids were talented football athletes and academically sound, I'd relocate my family to the Bellevue School District, so my kids could attend Bellevue High School. In other words, the Bellevue Wolverines don't need to recruit the talented athletes of Seattle and vicinity 'cause winning is contagious.
 
indian-outlaw said:
PlayerRep said:
OldtiredGRiz said:
It's probably a long shot, but I'd love to see the Griz sign Morgan Richey, OL from Bellevue. He's 6'5" and 280. The only thing I've heard about Budda Baker comes from office water cooler gossip, but the current consensus is that it's between UCLA and UW, with USC in the picture now that Sarkesian has taken over as head coach.

Edit: Bellevue's recent 3A championship was the 6th in a row. Their current winning streak stands at 53, I believe.

I predict Oregon.
No, Huskies will land him.

With the success of UCLA, Miles Jack (Bellevue Wolverine football alum), the fact the Mora was the Seattle Seahawk's Head Coach, a Bellevue Wolverines' Football Consultant, a resident of Bellevue and UCLA's head football coach, I'm puttin' my money on Baker heading to UCLA.
 
RobGriz said:
Ken Jones said:
OldtiredGRiz said:
Opening up a deeper Lakes High pipeline certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings any. Lakes is further south, a little south of Tacoma and another Washington 3A powerhouse. Drew Miller is the biggest name that comes to mind, but landing Marquin Russell is a major plus. If I'm not mistaken, a few years back Lakes sent 9 kids off to play D1 football.

Unfortunately, many of Lakes' athletes go without Division I or Division II athletic opportunities for several reasons. Most importantly, Lakes' coaches and athletic director don't proactively communicate with the local media and national prep writers to enhance the athletic scholarship opportunities for female and male student athletes. Many parents are afraid to press the coaches and AD to provide stats to the media on a timely basis 'cause they're afraid of the coaches' or AD's repercussions. Additionally, coaches are hired without any notification to the community or Lakes alumni. Finally, Lakes' alumni aren't encouraged to reconnect with Lakes High School; there are no seamless channels for Lakes' alumni to support pending and current Lancers.

I'm a Lakes High School graduate. I'm a Lakes Football alum. My niece attended Lakes High School. My grand niece and grand nephew are student athletes at Lakes High School. My sons played football for Bellevue High School.

If Montana is lucky enough to sign recruits from Lakes or Bellevue, Montana will gain diamonds in the rough or diamonds.
I have to disagree with you, at least as far a football is concerned. Dave Miller busts his ass trying to get those players recruited. My son, son-in-law and several friends kids have played or are currently playing for Dave. Not everyone is good enough to play college football just because they play for a good high school team. But to say that coaches aren't doing their part is flat wrong, at least in this case. Also Dave has hired several former players back as coaches in order to keep the tradition of Lakes football alive and ensuring a connection to alumni.

In my opinion, Coach Miller is good coach with exceptional football players, not an exceptional coach with good football players. Over the last 5 years, "too mistakes" has been a constant explanation for this highly talented teams' losses. :x When "too mistakes" cost a team wins, in my opinion, the Head Coach needs to enhance the discipline within the teams' foundation. From my first interactions with him, assessing his football teams (15 years worth), 5 years of watching his leadership as the head football coach of my alma mater and interaction with his players and their parents, I think Dave Miller is a good coach. :| If Coach Miller can enhance his teams' structure with stricter discipline and fortitude, the Lakes Lancers will consistently challenge the Bellevue Wolverines for WIAA 3A high school championships, win several consecutive WIAA titles and Coach Miller will be on the same pedestal as Bellevue's Coach Goncharoff. :thumb:

That noted, I think most coaches at the high school level and below are outstanding individuals for their dedication to student-athletes and interscholastic activities. Now, I don't know Dave Miller personally, but I met him in the late 80s when he was an assistant coach at Lakes and I've interacted with him on several occasions via e-mail before our communication channel was disconnected ... regardless of my challenges with Coach Miller, Lakes Football has a booster club that sells more than candy bars; now, the booster club solicit interaction and support from former Lakes football alumni and Lancer supporters. :clap: Don't tell him, but I think Coach Miller is an outstanding individual. :thumb: Of course, he may feel that I'm an agitator; he may be right, but nothing good comes from apathy. ;)
 
Ken Jones said:
RobGriz said:
Ken Jones said:
OldtiredGRiz said:
Opening up a deeper Lakes High pipeline certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings any. Lakes is further south, a little south of Tacoma and another Washington 3A powerhouse. Drew Miller is the biggest name that comes to mind, but landing Marquin Russell is a major plus. If I'm not mistaken, a few years back Lakes sent 9 kids off to play D1 football.

Unfortunately, many of Lakes' athletes go without Division I or Division II athletic opportunities for several reasons. Most importantly, Lakes' coaches and athletic director don't proactively communicate with the local media and national prep writers to enhance the athletic scholarship opportunities for female and male student athletes. Many parents are afraid to press the coaches and AD to provide stats to the media on a timely basis 'cause they're afraid of the coaches' or AD's repercussions. Additionally, coaches are hired without any notification to the community or Lakes alumni. Finally, Lakes' alumni aren't encouraged to reconnect with Lakes High School; there are no seamless channels for Lakes' alumni to support pending and current Lancers.

I'm a Lakes High School graduate. I'm a Lakes Football alum. My niece attended Lakes High School. My grand niece and grand nephew are student athletes at Lakes High School. My sons played football for Bellevue High School.

If Montana is lucky enough to sign recruits from Lakes or Bellevue, Montana will gain diamonds in the rough or diamonds.
I have to disagree with you, at least as far a football is concerned. Dave Miller busts his ass trying to get those players recruited. My son, son-in-law and several friends kids have played or are currently playing for Dave. Not everyone is good enough to play college football just because they play for a good high school team. But to say that coaches aren't doing their part is flat wrong, at least in this case. Also Dave has hired several former players back as coaches in order to keep the tradition of Lakes football alive and ensuring a connection to alumni.

In my opinion, Coach Miller is good coach with exceptional football players, not an exception coach with good football players. Over the last 5 years, "too mistakes" has been a constant explanation for this highly talented teams' losses. :x When "too mistakes" cost a team wins, in my opinion, the Head Coach needs to enhance the discipline within the teams' foundation. From my first interactions with him, assessing his football teams (15 years worth), 5 years of watching his leadership as the head football coach of my alma mater and interaction with his players and their parents, I think Dave Miller is a good coach. :| If Coach Miller can enhance his teams' structure with stricter discipline and fortitude, the Lakes Lancers will consistently challenge the Bellevue Wolverines for WIAA 3A high school championships, win several consecutive WIAA title and Coach Miller will be on the same pedestal as Bellevue's Coach Goncharoff. :thumb:

That noted, I think most coaches at the high school level and below are outstanding individuals for their dedication to student-athletes and interscholastic activities. Now, I don't know Dave Miller personally, but I met him in the late 80s when he was an assistant coach at Lakes and I've interacted with him on several occasions via e-mail before our communication channel was disconnected ... regardless of my challenges with Coach Miller, Lakes Football has a booster club that sells more than candy bars; now, the booster club solicit interaction and support from former Lakes football alumni and Lancer supporters. :clap: Don't tell him, but I think Coach Miller is an outstanding individual. :thumb: Of course, he may feel that I'm an agitator; he may be right, but nothing good comes from apathy. ;)

C'mon Man! It's "exceptionAL coach" not "exception coach".
 
PlayerRep said:
Ken Jones said:
RobGriz said:
Ken Jones said:
Unfortunately, many of Lakes' athletes go without Division I or Division II athletic opportunities for several reasons. Most importantly, Lakes' coaches and athletic director don't proactively communicate with the local media and national prep writers to enhance the athletic scholarship opportunities for female and male student athletes. Many parents are afraid to press the coaches and AD to provide stats to the media on a timely basis 'cause they're afraid of the coaches' or AD's repercussions. Additionally, coaches are hired without any notification to the community or Lakes alumni. Finally, Lakes' alumni aren't encouraged to reconnect with Lakes High School; there are no seamless channels for Lakes' alumni to support pending and current Lancers.

I'm a Lakes High School graduate. I'm a Lakes Football alum. My niece attended Lakes High School. My grand niece and grand nephew are student athletes at Lakes High School. My sons played football for Bellevue High School.

If Montana is lucky enough to sign recruits from Lakes or Bellevue, Montana will gain diamonds in the rough or diamonds.
I have to disagree with you, at least as far a football is concerned. Dave Miller busts his ass trying to get those players recruited. My son, son-in-law and several friends kids have played or are currently playing for Dave. Not everyone is good enough to play college football just because they play for a good high school team. But to say that coaches aren't doing their part is flat wrong, at least in this case. Also Dave has hired several former players back as coaches in order to keep the tradition of Lakes football alive and ensuring a connection to alumni.

In my opinion, Coach Miller is good coach with exceptional football players, not an exception coach with good football players. Over the last 5 years, "too mistakes" has been a constant explanation for this highly talented teams' losses. :x When "too mistakes" cost a team wins, in my opinion, the Head Coach needs to enhance the discipline within the teams' foundation. From my first interactions with him, assessing his football teams (15 years worth), 5 years of watching his leadership as the head football coach of my alma mater and interaction with his players and their parents, I think Dave Miller is a good coach. :| If Coach Miller can enhance his teams' structure with stricter discipline and fortitude, the Lakes Lancers will consistently challenge the Bellevue Wolverines for WIAA 3A high school championships, win several consecutive WIAA title and Coach Miller will be on the same pedestal as Bellevue's Coach Goncharoff. :thumb:

That noted, I think most coaches at the high school level and below are outstanding individuals for their dedication to student-athletes and interscholastic activities. Now, I don't know Dave Miller personally, but I met him in the late 80s when he was an assistant coach at Lakes and I've interacted with him on several occasions via e-mail before our communication channel was disconnected ... regardless of my challenges with Coach Miller, Lakes Football has a booster club that sells more than candy bars; now, the booster club solicit interaction and support from former Lakes football alumni and Lancer supporters. :clap: Don't tell him, but I think Coach Miller is an outstanding individual. :thumb: Of course, he may feel that I'm an agitator; he may be right, but nothing good comes from apathy. ;)

C'mon Man! It's "exceptionAL coach" not "exception coach".

Great post PR, I hate when people make alot of spelling errors.
 
Ursa Major said:
PlayerRep said:
Ken Jones said:
RobGriz said:
I have to disagree with you, at least as far a football is concerned. Dave Miller busts his ass trying to get those players recruited. My son, son-in-law and several friends kids have played or are currently playing for Dave. Not everyone is good enough to play college football just because they play for a good high school team. But to say that coaches aren't doing their part is flat wrong, at least in this case. Also Dave has hired several former players back as coaches in order to keep the tradition of Lakes football alive and ensuring a connection to alumni.

In my opinion, Coach Miller is good coach with exceptional football players, not an exception coach with good football players. Over the last 5 years, "too mistakes" has been a constant explanation for this highly talented teams' losses. :x When "too mistakes" cost a team wins, in my opinion, the Head Coach needs to enhance the discipline within the teams' foundation. From my first interactions with him, assessing his football teams (15 years worth), 5 years of watching his leadership as the head football coach of my alma mater and interaction with his players and their parents, I think Dave Miller is a good coach. :| If Coach Miller can enhance his teams' structure with stricter discipline and fortitude, the Lakes Lancers will consistently challenge the Bellevue Wolverines for WIAA 3A high school championships, win several consecutive WIAA title and Coach Miller will be on the same pedestal as Bellevue's Coach Goncharoff. :thumb:

That noted, I think most coaches at the high school level and below are outstanding individuals for their dedication to student-athletes and interscholastic activities. Now, I don't know Dave Miller personally, but I met him in the late 80s when he was an assistant coach at Lakes and I've interacted with him on several occasions via e-mail before our communication channel was disconnected ... regardless of my challenges with Coach Miller, Lakes Football has a booster club that sells more than candy bars; now, the booster club solicit interaction and support from former Lakes football alumni and Lancer supporters. :clap: Don't tell him, but I think Coach Miller is an outstanding individual. :thumb: Of course, he may feel that I'm an agitator; he may be right, but nothing good comes from apathy. ;)

C'mon Man! It's "exceptionAL coach" not "exception coach".

Great post PR, I hate when people make alot of spelling errors.
Fucking lawyers :roll:
 
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