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Griz Offense Sucks

kemajic said:
mcg said:
AZGrizFan said:
527 yards of total offense. The coaches didn't throw the 2 picks into double (and triple) coverage. The coaches didn't give up a punt return for a TD to Kupp.

Yep. The whole "we've got great players but the coaches won't let 'em play" line of thought is horse s**t.
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

There is no doubt the coaches made errors yesterday. But there is also no doubt that the team with better players won. The "it's the coaches fault" line of thought excuses the players from accountability, and I think that is not correct. Part of the problem is that the players simply aren't good enough. There are certainly lot's of reasons for that, but I don't think you can simply assume that with different coaches this team would be BSC champions.
 
kemajic said:
mcg said:
AZGrizFan said:
527 yards of total offense. The coaches didn't throw the 2 picks into double (and triple) coverage. The coaches didn't give up a punt return for a TD to Kupp.

Yep. The whole "we've got great players but the coaches won't let 'em play" line of thought is horse s**t.
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

None of those things mean "our offense sucks". Now, the COACHES may suck... :lol:
 
kemajic said:
EverettGriz said:
kemajic said:
EverettGriz said:
Look, I love and respect Jordy. But he isn't the same player this year, and his decision making has been very questionable at times, particularly today. The two picks were inexecusable. And they both came when UM had all the momentum.
Yes, 15 TD passes vs. 4 ints are really, really bad numbers.
No one is saying he sucks, Kem. But you can't aruge those two INTs today were terrible decisions. Take those away and the Griz likely win that game. And you can in no way attribute them to the staff. That's what's being said here. Disagree if you wish, but don't purposely misintrepret what others are saying.
Not misinterpreting anything. Every QB has ints; if you're going to pick at a JJ weakness, this is the wrong place. In your game of "what if" add the obscene ref call on the TD and the Burke drop and we "likely win that game." With the ints. 4 for the whole year.

Interestingly, you're both right. The INT's were terrible decisions, and yet but for a bad call and a missed pass we win that game. Even WITH the INT's.
 
mcg said:
kemajic said:
mcg said:
AZGrizFan said:
527 yards of total offense. The coaches didn't throw the 2 picks into double (and triple) coverage. The coaches didn't give up a punt return for a TD to Kupp.

Yep. The whole "we've got great players but the coaches won't let 'em play" line of thought is horse s**t.
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

There is no doubt the coaches made errors yesterday. But there is also no doubt that the team with better players won. The "it's the coaches fault" line of thought excuses the players from accountability, and I think that is not correct. Part of the problem is that the players simply aren't good enough. There are certainly lot's of reasons for that, but I don't think you can simply assume that with different coaches this team would be BSC champions.
WTF are you guys talking about (not you kem)? JJ is undeniably the 3rd greatest QB in school history. Let that sink in a little bit and then re-read some of your BS.
 
mcg said:
kemajic said:
mcg said:
AZGrizFan said:
527 yards of total offense. The coaches didn't throw the 2 picks into double (and triple) coverage. The coaches didn't give up a punt return for a TD to Kupp.

Yep. The whole "we've got great players but the coaches won't let 'em play" line of thought is horse s**t.
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

There is no doubt the coaches made errors yesterday. But there is also no doubt that the team with better players won. The "it's the coaches fault" line of thought excuses the players from accountability, and I think that is not correct. Part of the problem is that the players simply aren't good enough. There are certainly lot's of reasons for that, but I don't think you can simply assume that with different coaches this team would be BSC champions.


I thought all of the pundits on here told us that we have the best players in the conference?
 
garizzalies said:
mcg said:
kemajic said:
mcg said:
Yep. The whole "we've got great players but the coaches won't let 'em play" line of thought is horse s**t.
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

There is no doubt the coaches made errors yesterday. But there is also no doubt that the team with better players won. The "it's the coaches fault" line of thought excuses the players from accountability, and I think that is not correct. Part of the problem is that the players simply aren't good enough. There are certainly lot's of reasons for that, but I don't think you can simply assume that with different coaches this team would be BSC champions.
WTF are you guys talking about (not you kem)? JJ is undeniably the 3rd greatest QB in school history. Let that sink in a little bit and then re-read some of your BS.

Huh?
 
kemajic said:
mcg said:
AZGrizFan said:
527 yards of total offense. The coaches didn't throw the 2 picks into double (and triple) coverage. The coaches didn't give up a punt return for a TD to Kupp.

Yep. The whole "we've got great players but the coaches won't let 'em play" line of thought is horse s**t.
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

And this was all after Mick said the players had the best week of practice so far this season...maybe the coaches just didn't have a good week? If so I would hate to see a "bad" week of practice.
 
We can't forget that the Griz lost their two best offensive linemen before the season started (with no other returning O line starters) and also lost Henderson (the best player on the team in my opinion). All three of these guys received all conference honors last year. They are also playing a true freshman at R tackle because another tackle (Theibes) was injured. Not that surprising that they would have some problems on offense. The Griz are still on track to go 8-4 (hopefully) which is what I and others thought their record would be even without the injuries. I hope the Griz make the playoffs but as long as they beat the cats I will be satisfied.
 
garizzalies said:
mcg said:
kemajic said:
mcg said:
Yep. The whole "we've got great players but the coaches won't let 'em play" line of thought is horse s**t.
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

There is no doubt the coaches made errors yesterday. But there is also no doubt that the team with better players won. The "it's the coaches fault" line of thought excuses the players from accountability, and I think that is not correct. Part of the problem is that the players simply aren't good enough. There are certainly lot's of reasons for that, but I don't think you can simply assume that with different coaches this team would be BSC champions.
WTF are you guys talking about (not you kem)? JJ is undeniably the 3rd greatest QB in school history. Let that sink in a little bit and then re-read some of your BS.

Please, the hyperbole is blinding me! 3rd best huh? Ever heard of DD, Ochs, Ah Yat, Pease, Miller, Moringhweh (sp)?
 
monte is a character said:
garizzalies said:
mcg said:
kemajic said:
But the coaches did waste two timeouts in the second half and caused two delay of game penalties with late signals. The coaches also called a run up the gut for the two point conversion. Every coach does that, right?

There is no doubt the coaches made errors yesterday. But there is also no doubt that the team with better players won. The "it's the coaches fault" line of thought excuses the players from accountability, and I think that is not correct. Part of the problem is that the players simply aren't good enough. There are certainly lot's of reasons for that, but I don't think you can simply assume that with different coaches this team would be BSC champions.
WTF are you guys talking about (not you kem)? JJ is undeniably the 3rd greatest QB in school history. Let that sink in a little bit and then re-read some of your BS.

Please, the hyperbole is blinding me! 3rd best huh? Ever heard of DD, Ochs, Ah Yat, Pease, Miller, Moringhweh (sp)?

I think he was referring to passing yards and TDs. JJ is behind Ah Yat and Super Dave. He passed Bergquist (sp?) who was the former number 3.
 
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