GRIZ/NAU semifinal game thread

[Potomac Griz]

The still photo shows .4 seconds on the clock, and the guy in the blue shirt almost at the free throw line, with the ball about to be inbounded. I don't know the rule on a technical in that situation, but it seems odd that it would be okay for a player not in uniform to be that far out on the court. Is a player not in uniform who is sitting on the bench a "fan"? Agreed that he didn't interfere with the play.

It happens all the time around this time of year on a last second shot in college basketball. It's not uncommon. I've never seen a technical foul called in that case that I can remember. Like I said earlier usually the refs stop play to either wave everyone off the court (trust me I've seen worse than one or two run onto the court), or check to make sure they have the right amount of time on the clock.

That said can't be doing that shit! DeCuire sure chewed some ass (and rightfully so) after that.

 

[Potomac Griz]

Not to mention Gregory traveled AND pushed off on his "game winning" drive. Good Lord. The refs might as well wear maroon and grey stripes.

Meth...not even once.

Two steps is not a travel on a layup. Pick up ball, one two, lay it up. No travel. And push off? Just how high are you?

 

[fanofzoo]

Yep it was Edmonds.
Travis let him have at after he dove back to the bench.

Your coach should not let him see the floor for the rest of the year after that rookie mistake. Makes you wonder how some of these guys even pass their classes.

And this advice comes to you by way of the lowest academic entry standards of any BSC school.

 

[MT Jack]

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The picture obviously shows that the player was on the court and the clock was not at zero.

Yup. If the clock was at zero then NAU wouldn't have been able to inbound for the 3/4 court heave at the end. But, alas, it isn't why NAU lost. The Griz outrebounded and outhustled NAU tonight. They deserved the win. I'll put my tinfoil hat and conspiracy theory back in storage for tonight.

I was more irritated at Northern Colorado's 35 free throws in the semifinals in 2011. That was a complete hose job.

And a good evening, Griz nation. I enjoy visiting with your basketball fans much more than your football fans. Have fun tomorrow night. I'm jealous.

 

[racesla]

Not to mention Gregory traveled AND pushed off on his "game winning" drive. Good Lord. The refs might as well wear maroon and grey stripes.

Really. Dude your pathetic.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

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The picture obviously shows that the player was on the court and the clock was not at zero.

Yup. If the clock was at zero then NAU wouldn't have been able to inbound for the 3/4 court heave at the end. But, alas, it isn't why NAU lost. The Griz outrebounded and outhustled NAU tonight. They deserved the win. I'll put my tinfoil hat and conspiracy theory back in storage for tonight.

I was more irritated at Northern Colorado's 35 free throws in the semifinals in 2011. That was a complete hose job.

And a good evening, Griz nation. I enjoy visiting with your basketball fans much more than your football fans. Have fun tomorrow night. I'm jealous.

Well said. The refs didn't cost the game tonight. They just screwed up the flow with irregular and inconsistent foul calls on everybody.

 

[Ursa Major]

As the game ended and the refs started trotting swiftly to the exit (at the end of the NAU bench), the NAU coach charged out on the court (in a south by southeast direction) at the Black ref (who was probably just the closest ref to him). The ref veered wider out on the court by a step or so and kept moving--to try to avoid the coach. The NAU coach may have brushed or bumped him slightly, or perhaps the ref veered wide enough to avoid any contact. The NAU coach continued moving towards the area where the coaches shake hands in front of the scorers table. The 2 coaches were immediately (or relatively quickly) very close to each other. Couldn't tell if they were in each others faces, but that's the way it looked to me. People behind the coaches, or at least behind DeCuire seemed to be crowding behind the coaches (or just DeCuire) perhaps moving him forward. I heard from a UM official that the NAU coach pushed DeCuire, but I couldn't or didn't see that. I heard an NAU athletic department person say that the coach was irked by the ending of the game, and in particular the failure to call a technical on UM--because after Gregory's bucket, the UM player (not in uniform) was way out on the court). I was told that DeCuire pulled or pushed the kid back to the bench.

I can't wait to see the video. I talked to several people who watched or were trying to watch the video after the game at the main ref monitor, but they seemed to have differing views of what occurred. None of what I said above was based on anything that any of those people told me, unless the one UM official had seen the monitor and the push.

That short bald ref is so bad, and always is bad, that he goofs up games by making so many bad, wrong or marginal calls. He was horrible tonight, and horrible last night. The Big Sky needs to get rid of him. He's an equal "employer" bad ref, not discriminating against either team. Both teams have every right to be irked at about 12 or 15 of his calls tonight. The other 2 guys were fine, or even good tonight, and my impression is that the Black ref is consistently a good ref.

How come I think that if the NAU coach was the Griz coach I wouldn't be hearing about the south by southwest direction and how innocent he was???

 

[Potomac Griz]

Yup. If the clock was at zero then NAU wouldn't have been able to inbound for the 3/4 court heave at the end. But, alas, it isn't why NAU lost. The Griz outrebounded and outhustled NAU tonight. They deserved the win. I'll put my tinfoil hat and conspiracy theory back in storage for tonight.

I was more irritated at Northern Colorado's 35 free throws in the semifinals in 2011. That was a complete hose job.

And a good evening, Griz nation. I enjoy visiting with your basketball fans much more than your football fans. Have fun tomorrow night. I'm jealous.

I'll agree he was on the court early ( a couple other fans were too). Happens a lot though in college BB. Cal had their entire student section rush the court a second too early last year.. Montgomery was pushing them off the court and everything. Very rare to have a T called in that situation. Refs (and PA announcer sometimes) just try to get everything under control and then continue with the game.

That said, hell of a game by NAU. Even though your coach got a bit over-emotional at the end of the game I hope nothing comes of all of that. Sounds like he stopped by to shake DeCuire's hand during the interviews later. It was a tough, physical, very tense game. He's a hell of a coach and appears to be a tremendous recruiter. Hopefully the fan he beaned with the clipboard isn't injured

And I also agree that screwjob you guys got in 2010-2011 against UNC was the worst I've ever seen.

 

[racesla]

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The picture obviously shows that the player was on the court and the clock was not at zero.

Yup. If the clock was at zero then NAU wouldn't have been able to inbound for the 3/4 court heave at the end. But, alas, it isn't why NAU lost. The Griz outrebounded and outhustled NAU tonight. They deserved the win. I'll put my tinfoil hat and conspiracy theory back in storage for tonight.

I was more irritated at Northern Colorado's 35 free throws in the semifinals in 2011. That was a complete hose job.

And a good evening, Griz nation. I enjoy visiting with your basketball fans much more than your football fans. Have fun tomorrow night. I'm jealous.

Have a good one.

 

[first11]

The guy's way out on the court. Assume that merits a technical. I wonder if any ref say the guy. The Black ref appears to be looking at the inbound pass from the baseline. Are any other refs in the still shot? They may have turned to run down the court.

No technical, as the fan didn't directly interfere or impact the play (stated by Bob Messerole(sp?)) to Mick on the radio feed. Also, UM player left bench after the clock hit zero.

If the "incident" occurred elsewhere with our Griz in NAUs shoes we'd all be screaming for justice.....

 

[Ursa Major]

Yep it was Edmonds.
Travis let him have at after he dove back to the bench.

Your coach should not let him see the floor for the rest of the year after that rookie mistake. Makes you wonder how some of these guys even pass their classes.

At ewu? Draw a Pirate...

 

[Potomac Griz]

The guy's way out on the court. Assume that merits a technical. I wonder if any ref say the guy. The Black ref appears to be looking at the inbound pass from the baseline. Are any other refs in the still shot? They may have turned to run down the court.

No technical, as the fan didn't directly interfere or impact the play (stated by Bob Messerole(sp?)) to Mick on the radio feed. Also, UM player left bench after the clock hit zero.

If the "incident" occurred elsewhere with our Griz in NAUs shoes we'd all be screaming for justice.....

Some might but many wouldn't. Like I said that happens VERY frequently in college basketball. Look at Cal vs Arizona last year. Entire student section flooded the court. I've probably seen 20 incidents worse than what happened against NAU in the past few years watching college basketball. Don't remember a single T getting called for that. Just ref's clearing the court, PA announcer sometimes telling people to get their asses back in the seats, things calming down eventually and then play resuming.

Besides...it's not NAU fans that are pissed off, it appears be an EWU fan, a Sac fan and our own Debbie Downer.

 

[mtgrizrule]

What a terrific game and atmosphere!!! I decided to sit in general admission. The student turnout was good. Most of the football team was there.

Riley Bradshaw was terrific in the 1st half with 10 quick points off the bench. He was the main reason why the GRIZ were up at the half, and why the GRIZ bench outplayed NAU's bench. Both teams played great defense. I was surprised the GRIZ continued to let Yakou beat them over and over in the 1st half.

The 2nd half the GRIZ continued to play tough defense, and rebounding improved a lot. Mario Dunn was amazing on the boards. The GRIZ contained Yakou much better most of the 2nd half. I was surprised DeCuire put Breunig on him. Breunig surprisingly enough stayed with him pretty well defending him off the dribble. There are not many 6'7" plus players who can contain a PG.

Kemp played well for the minutes he got. He is so much better offensively now. He is not so rushed any longer. He has learned to let the game come to him.

Enough cannot be said of Jordan Gregory. He is closing out his career as well as a SR can. The guy is clutch down the stretch, no matter how much he struggles rest of the game. He is smart. He always plays harder than anyone on the court. He is as confident of a player as there is. He sent the game to OT against Weber State. He won the game against NAU with a clutch 3 pointer, followed by the game winning driving lay in. On the game winning play, Travis made a brilliant coaching move. One that could have back fired had NAU wanted to get the ball back with more time on the clock. Travis used Kemp simply to set a pick to inbound the ball to Gregory, then another pick at half court that gave Gregory the space needed for his lay in. I was surprised NAU did not take a chance on fouling Kemp on the inbounds to force him to make 2 FTS with 8 seconds on the clock still. Granted, Kemp likely would have made 1 of 2, but NAU would have gotten the ball back with plenty of time to win the game.

Speaking of winning the game. I was glad Weisner fouled Yakou to send him to line instead of allowing NAU to have a possible game winning 3 pointer.

I enjoyed sitting in GA with the students. It was damn fun. After the game, I did not see how the scrum was initiated, but it looked damn heated. The players and staff have to be commended for not allowing it to get more out of hand. The GRIZ owe an unsuited player a world of thanks during that scrum. Jordan Gregory was way too worked up. He was forcing his way into the scrum. He was damn fired up and wanted a piece of someone. Fortunately, Jermaine Edmonds saw what I did, too. Edmonds hustled his ass right behind Gregory, bear hugged him from behind, picked Gregory off the ground, and hauled Gregory to the far end of the court by the students. Gregory was trying to get out. Edmonds would not let him go until NAU cleared the court. While holding Gregory back, he told Gregory something like, we need you man, it is not worth it. Even after he let Gregory go, he blocked Gregory from going back toward NAU. Gregory finally noticed he was now in front of the students, and went bezerk celebrating with them. Shortly after that, Travis Decuire greeted the students with high fives, hugs, and arm waiving. He got those students pumped up after the game, thanked them, and told them be back for the EWU game. Travis was pretty damn worked up as well. It was fun watching DeCuire and Gregory interact with the students after the game.

I am pretty pumped myself. GO GRIZ!!!!

 

[Potomac Griz]

The GRIZ owe an unsuited player a world of thanks during that scrum. Jordan Gregory was way too worked up. He was forcing his way into the scrum. He was damn fired up and wanted a piece of someone. Fortunately, Jermaine Edmonds saw what I did, too. Edmonds hustled his ass right behind Gregory, bear hugged him from behind, picked Gregory off the ground, and hauled Gregory to the far end of the court by the students. Gregory was trying to get out. Edmonds would not let him go until NAU cleared the court. While holding Gregory back, he told Gregory something like, we need you man, it is not worth it. Even after he let Gregory go, he blocked Gregory from going back toward NAU. Gregory finally noticed he was now in front of the students, and went bezerk celebrating with them. Shortly after that, Travis Decuire greeted the students with high fives, hugs, and arm waiving. He got those students pumped up after the game, thanked them, and told them be back for the EWU game. Travis was pretty damn worked up as well. It was fun watching DeCuire and Gregory interact with the students after the game.

GoldStandardGriz posted a great video of that. You can see Gregory jawwing at NAU as Edmonds hauls him away. Gregory kind of jumps up and Edmonds just carries him away

You can see Krslovic playing peacemaker a bit in that video too.

Here was the video he posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxeY7gAnqxg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also captures DeCuire celebrating with the students. Love how fired up he gets for these games.

 

[PlayerRep]

Derek Buerkle put this one up on twitter, shot from under the Griz basket.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=777376072316217&id=387541767966318&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FPs6H0J2cpF&_rdr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you want to see the NAU coach trying to confront the Black ref, look at the left side of the screen as the camera pans to the left after the missed long shot to end the game. You will see the NAU coach moving forward (but not running) and in the path of the ref who is trotting/ running off the court. The coach sort of jumps and moves both of his arms down in any angry manner in front the ref, who then jumps/veers right to get away from the coach. The coach then moves to his left (sort of in the south by southwest direction I mentioned previously) towards the ref, but the ref gets around the coach. Doesn't look like there was any contact. The coach then continues forward towards DeCuire.

 

[George Ferguson]

Fullerton has already stated no discipline at all for TD. Still considering discipline for Murphy.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

The GRIZ owe an unsuited player a world of thanks during that scrum. Jordan Gregory was way too worked up. He was forcing his way into the scrum. He was damn fired up and wanted a piece of someone. Fortunately, Jermaine Edmonds saw what I did, too. Edmonds hustled his ass right behind Gregory, bear hugged him from behind, picked Gregory off the ground, and hauled Gregory to the far end of the court by the students. Gregory was trying to get out. Edmonds would not let him go until NAU cleared the court. While holding Gregory back, he told Gregory something like, we need you man, it is not worth it. Even after he let Gregory go, he blocked Gregory from going back toward NAU. Gregory finally noticed he was now in front of the students, and went bezerk celebrating with them. Shortly after that, Travis Decuire greeted the students with high fives, hugs, and arm waiving. He got those students pumped up after the game, thanked them, and told them be back for the EWU game. Travis was pretty damn worked up as well. It was fun watching DeCuire and Gregory interact with the students after the game.

GoldStandardGriz posted a great video of that. You can see Gregory jawwing at NAU as Edmonds hauls him away. Gregory kind of jumps up and Edmonds just carries him away

You can see Krslovic playing peacemaker a bit in that video too.

Here was the video he posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxeY7gAnqxg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also captures DeCuire celebrating with the students. Love how fired up he gets for these games.

Looks to me that Edmonds made up for running onto the court early! :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

Breunig up front and center in the melee, but seems not to raise arms or push or anything. "Chatting" with a tall NAU player. Bradshaw to his right, close to the action. Kemp and Weisner step in close, but Kemp then is not up front and keeps Gregory away. Eventually, DeCuire moves/pushes Bradshaw aside. Something happens to the left off screen, and Kemp closer to that action. Weisner steps in that direction too, but stays back and seems to be jawing a bit. Lopez seen at one point not doing anything.

 

[PlayerRep]

Not to mention Gregory traveled AND pushed off on his "game winning" drive. Good Lord. The refs might as well wear maroon and grey stripes.

Actually, the tv video clearly shows that Gregory didn't travel or push off. Not even close. You are a total idiot.

 

[BelierPeaux]

I apologize for my earlier comment regarding the post-game scrum. I was totally wrong and I need to put the rumors to rest. My friend happened to be sitting at the EWU media table and she saw the whole thing. Here's what happened.

Decuire shouted at one of the refs during one of the stoppages toward the end of the game. Murphy took exception to something he said and approached Decuire. Their disagreement apparently escalated because they approached each other angrily. It looked like they were getting really heated but then Murphy broke it off and started walking back toward his players. Right as he did so Decuire launched an atomic lougie that nailed Murphy just below his shoulder. Murphy didn't notice but one of the assistants saw the whole thing and told his coach. During the next timeout Murphy tried to exact revenge by shooting a snot rocket at Decuire, but he missed and instead hit a gentleman in a wheelchair right in his open mouth who, rather than wincing in disgust, defiantly waived his arms in celebration which only made Murphy angrier. So when the Jacks eventually lost, it all boiled over for Murphy. Decuire came to shake hands but Murphy thrust his finger into Decuire's chest and said "f*** her right in the pussy," to which he rightly took offense. There was an ensuing fracas involving some of the coaches and players, but it was quickly halted and everyone cleared the floor.

And I should say that nobody threw any punches. That was totally off-base speculation when I said that. So again, sorry for my earlier comment and I hope this helps clear things up.

All is forgiven. I lol'd.