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Grizfrom68 said:
I guess that I derailed the conversation.

I am still uncertain who is the better coach between Hauck, Vigen and Polasek.

They have all been very successful, and season to season one of them has been more successful than the other, within the sample size available.

George Wendt would still say that the best coach is “Ditka.”
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If all three were interviewing for the same job, Bobby would be the third choice, and they would probably decide to keep looking.
 
Merry Christmas! I think this quote below from Teddy Roosevelt has remained one of my favorites ever. I was first introduced to it by my Infantry battalion commander, many years ago. It is something I have relied upon to help keep me from being too harsh when observing others efforts. I hope it is something that you can appreciate:

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

- Teddy Roosevelt
 
mthoopsfan said:
I said “24 or so” months. I also looked at 27 months. I will later show how far off your lying stats are. Had I wanted to look only at 2 seasons or 2 years, I would have said that. You are dishonest and not to be trusted.
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I am always honest. You are the one who is consistently dishonest and cannot be trusted. You were the one who picked last 24 months. You get called out for it all the time. You can pick whatever time period you want and whatever statistic you want and the result is the same. Hauck is the worst coach of any of the blue blood FCS programs currently and quite frankly it isn’t even close.
 
5280Griz said:
I am always honest. You are the one who is consistently dishonest and cannot be trusted. You were the one who picked last 24 months. You get called out for it all the time. You can pick whatever time period you want and whatever statistic you want and the result is the same. Hauck is the worst coach of any of the blue blood FCS programs currently and quite frankly it isn’t even close.
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No, I picked 24 OR SO months. You can't even be honest about that. Do you want to bet $100 on whether I said "24 or so" months. Put up or shut up, you pussy.

Yes, I will show that Griz over past 3 years has beaten the Dakota and MV schools, and Cats haven't. Hauck is a better coach than all of them.
 
mthoopsfan said:
No, I picked 24 OR SO months. You can't even be honest about that. Do you want to bet $100 on whether I said "24 or so" months. Put up or shut up, you pussy.

Yes, I will show that Griz over past 3 years has beaten the Dakota and MV schools, and Cats haven't. Hauck is a better coach than all of them.
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I’m still waiting on your data.
 
mthoopsfan said:
No, I picked 24 OR SO months. You can't even be honest about that. Do you want to bet $100 on whether I said "24 or so" months. Put up or shut up, you pussy.

Yes, I will show that Griz over past 3 years has beaten the Dakota and MV schools, and Cats haven't. Hauck is a better coach than all of them.
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I’m not a Bears fan, but is he really better than Ditka? 😄
 
Ursus Horriblis said:
Merry Christmas! I think this quote below from Teddy Roosevelt has remained one of my favorites ever. I was first introduced to it by my Infantry battalion commander, many years ago. It is something I have relied upon to help keep me from being too harsh when observing others efforts. I hope it is something that you can appreciate:

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

- Teddy Roosevelt
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You should perhaps read the whole speech instead of taking a small section of it out of context like which is typically done with it and you’ll have different perspective of what it means.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Maybe you don’t know what is going on, but many of us do.

Who’s caught up with UM on NIL? How do you think UM has been able to keep Gubner, Bergan and Gillman? With no NIL? You have no clue what some Griz players have been offered by other schools. My good friends and I do.
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Like I’ve said previously. The problem seems to be with boosters like you. The Griz are FAR behind the cats. Sorry you can’t see that. Would hope with someone with so much pull as you claim could help set this team on a better course. We are losing to our neighbors consistently. I would hope you could use your weight to figure out where we are deficient compared to MSU and use this place to try to gain more funding support. People want to see a trajectory that is promising with the intention of beating the Cats, winning the Big Sky and playing for national championships.
 
HikeGlacier said:
You should perhaps read the whole speech instead of taking a small section of it out of context like which is typically done with it and you’ll have different perspective of what it means.
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So why not enlighten all of us plebes, oh savvy sage of the innertubes?
 
Couple of points between hauck 1.0 and 2.0.....

1.0 hauck could be a prick, players were dieing to play at the "mecca?" Probobly some of the best facilities in FCS at the time. He had his choice.
2.0 MSU and many others now have very competitive facilities and UM has lost some shine but is still great.

1.0 MSU fan base and boosters sucked. Enough said.
2.0 MSU boosters and support have excelled while some of the UM fanbase and sponsors are split on Bobbie.

1.0 NIL and portal have changed the landscape. Bobbie had way more to offer for a drop down than MSU could.
2.0 MSU is holding its own on the portal and growing talent, using the portal for gaps. Bobbie has been trying to build a new and better team each year and the freshman and sophomore are losing interest in um.

Instate recruiting. 1.0 all UM. 2.0 more MSU.
 
GriznMN said:
NDSU - Chris Klieman
SDSU - Jimmy Rogers
UM - Don Read
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Chris Klieman and Jimmy Rogers had a higher rate of success but I would argue Bohl and Steigelmeier were better because they both built the culture that Klieman and Rogers continued.
 
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