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GRIZ HC job

AG1, feel free to add some names, and why? Mr Titleist can add to the list too. He is right about missing out on Doreen. We cannot have that one back.

I honestly feel, whenever it is we hire a new coach, Engstrom's handling of Pflu will be a huge detriment. I am sure we cannot expect to have a new man in place, until after we know the results from the NCAA.
 
I will take anyone that isnt on a list on egriz.

As for the Pflu firing it will have less than zero effect on a HC. If a guy has himself in the position to take a D1 HC job he will take any contract he can get simply out of ego then use it as a stepping stone to bigger and better things. Look at what we have now.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
I will take anyone that isnt on a list on egriz.

As for the Pflu firing it will have less than zero effect on a HC. If a guy has himself in the position to take a D1 HC job he will take any contract he can get simply out of ego then use it as a stepping stone to bigger and better things. Look at what we have now.

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I agree, and you are right. The job is a stepping stone job. The ideal candidate would be someone wanting to stay put in Montana, and be committed to the program. Realistically speaking someone willing to be the man for 5 to 7 years. That is the reality we have for this program.
 
MrTitleist said:
I didn't read this but skimmed the coaches names.. why are we so compelled to stay within the good ol' boy network? Why can't we look outside of someone w/ UM/Montana connections?

I didn't bother to read after that pathetic list. So many are so damned close minded. Breske would be the only one I'd even consider. Open it up truly national search
 
My short list would include:

Bob Nielson (Minnesota Duluth)
Matt Mitchell (Grand Valley State)
Tim Beck (Pittsburg State) Go Gorillas!
 
My guess is our new head coach will be one that has head coaching experience and has a good track record all around (clean wins and a clean program) and we may have never heard of the man. Perhaps an assistant at a large program? Naw, take a big pay cut to come? Nope.

My best guess right now is that Mick will step down right after the season and begin his retirement. And I think after all the investigations are over and complete this will be the time to find a great new coach.

Further, I can't think of a name previously mentioned that will be the man.
 
The only name on that list that wouldn't have to take a six figure pay cut to coach at UM is the very unqualified Johnathan Smith.
If you're just going to throw out names of past Griz or coaches you're familiar with, why not Andy Thompson, or Justin Gaines, or Carl Franks?
 
Griz2k said:
My short list would include:

Bob Nielson (Minnesota Duluth)
Matt Mitchell (Grand Valley State)
Tim Beck (Pittsburg State) Go Gorillas!
The problem with any of those coaches or the coach from Valdosta for that matter is the old "they don't know how to recruit in the West" issue that UM always falls back on.

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grizfnz said:
Griz2k said:
My short list would include:

Bob Nielson (Minnesota Duluth)
Matt Mitchell (Grand Valley State)
Tim Beck (Pittsburg State) Go Gorillas!
The problem with any of those coaches or the coach from Valdosta for that matter is the old "they don't know how to recruit in the West" issue that UM always falls back on.

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I dont know if that's a real good argument. Most teams recruit the west, at least California, and more and more Arizona. Seems like most coaches retain a coach from the previous staff for continuity, as well.
 
PTGrizzly said:
mtgriz said:
Beau Baldwin - always been impressed by his teams at CWU and EWU.

Why on earth would he leave EWU to come here right now?
Maybe the same reason Mike Kramer left Eastern to go to MSU when they were down and eastern was near the top of the conference.
 
Mark Helfrich.

Hey, a guy can dream, right? :lol:

In all honesty, I'd love to see Robin back, but that's not gonna happen.

Honestly if Hauck got fired this year, I bet he'd love to come back, but he might look to be an assistant somewhere bigger, instead.

Whoever it is, though, I'd like to keep the uptempo spread O, instead of having to change ala 2010 overnight.
 
grizfnz said:
Griz2k said:
My short list would include:

Bob Nielson (Minnesota Duluth)
Matt Mitchell (Grand Valley State)
Tim Beck (Pittsburg State) Go Gorillas!
The problem with any of those coaches or the coach from Valdosta for that matter is the old "they don't know how to recruit in the West" issue that UM always falls back on.

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Ya, I've heard that one to, but I don't put too much stock into it. Recruiting is recruiting.
 
Griz2k said:
My short list would include:

Bob Nielson (Minnesota Duluth)
Matt Mitchell (Grand Valley State)
Tim Beck (Pittsburg State) Go Gorillas!
Just my thoughts exactly. Get a winner and it doesnt matter where in the country thet are coaching. Look at chip kelly as the example.
 
I believe that the HC position will not be opened until the NCAA investigation has been completed. What coach would want to enter a HC position while there is a unknown risk of having to lead a sanctioned program? That is why Delaney was hired for two years!

Hauck should not be rehired as it was the players that he was responsible for recruiting that caused the problems in the first place.


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MrTitleist said:
You mean Hauck recruited Jordan Johnson and Nate Montana?

Jeez, don't you know how this works? Any and all problems with players are Hauck's fault even if he didn't technically recruit them, coach them, or ever meet them.

Five years from now when a player gets a speeding ticket, and the florio hits the fan over it, Griz Nation will be up in arms yelling "GOD DAMMIT HAUCK!!"

The fact that he rubbed some fans the wrong way with his attitude means he'll be forever to blame for all future incidence involving law enforcement....probably for all sports here at the U of M.

Oh...and I agree on the Doeren comments above from various people. I was really hoping he would be the one chosen after Hauck left for UNLV. A little out of our reach now though :(
 
You know, my candidate makes no objective sense (fortunately not required on eGriz), but I do have reasons: Akey, from UI.

Here's why.
He has a rep for "cleaning up a program." (Did not follow that news closely, so I have no idea whether or not that's deserved, but people claim it's true. ;) )

He gives a really good "coach-speak" interview on TV. (Very important! 8-) )

He, and his staff, were really good at recruiting 1-AA talent to a mediocre (being charitable) set of 1-A facilities, and a total s**thole stadium. (Plus to WaGriz. :thumb: ) They even managed to sucker in the occasional top-tier recruit.

The $$$ would not be that bad, and the outside possibilities are way better.

For him, he could compete for a national championship ... which he might get as an assistant coach at some 1-A program, but seems pretty unlikely at this stage of his career.

His team could compete for a real national championship.

See? Perfect candidate. :lol:
 
Potomac Griz said:
Jeez, don't you know how this works? Any and all problems with players are Hauck's fault even if he didn't technically recruit them, coach them, or ever meet them. ... The fact that he rubbed some fans the wrong way with his attitude means he'll be forever to blame for all future incidents involving law enforcement....probably for all sports here at the U of M. :(
Have to agree with your overall point that, somehow, some people seem to figure Hauck is to blame for all that's now wrong with Griz football right now.

I never met Coach Hauck, personally, but his public statements (as printed in the media) mostly "rubbed me the wrong way," and his video presence was beyond annoying. In fact, his whole demeanor was, to put it charitably, "off-putting." But the way some here on eGriz carry a grudge against him is simply beyond understanding. Were some of his recruits "thugs"? Seems like .. although not notably worse than some undergraduate non-athletes. Did he hide/ignore transgressions? Perhaps, although that seems a bit fuzzy. Certainly he crushed offenders that blatantly made him look bad. Selfish, but human.

The opposing point of view says that Hauck had many redeeming qualities, once you got to know him. But from what I read and saw on TV, I could not stand the guy. And nothing since, at UNLV, has particularly changed my mind.

But c'mon people: GET OVER IT. Hauck is not the sole, all-encompassing reason we're in the current mess. And unless he, personally, put your life in the s***ter, show a bit more human charity than to hope (as many seem to) that the rest of his coaching career will be total crap. At least show some compassion for the athlete and fans .. who deserve better. 'Nuf said.
 
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