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GRIZ at sac (Men GAMEDAY!!)

I would submit that the 18 point disparity in points off free throws was horrible but the bigger reffing damage was making sure that Gfeller, the hottest player on the court, and Bruenig, the best big man on the court, would get the fouls that limited playing time and wouldn't be around at the end. Atrocious officiating! :roll:
 
62GRIZ said:
I would submit that the 18 point disparity in points off free throws was horrible but the bigger reffing damage was making sure that Gfeller, the hottest player on the court, and Bruenig, the best big man on the court, would get the fouls that limited playing time and wouldn't be around at the end. Atrocious officiating! :roll:

Reading between the lines of DeCuire quote from the game write up in the Missoulian
it appears that he was not all that happy with the officiating either.

The Griz were hindered all night by foul trouble. Leading scorer Martin Breunig fouled out with 2:08 to play with 11 points, six below his average. Brandon Gfeller, who hit six 3-pointers and led the Griz with 20 points, followed him to the bench moments later. Fabijan Krslovic and Jack Lopez finished with four fouls apiece. The Griz were called for 25 fouls; Sac State 14.

"Don't foul so much," DeCuire said of what he told his team. "I don't know what to tell them, to be honest. I'll have to look at the tape. We don't play an aggressive style of defense; we play gaps, we don't hand check, we're not out pressuring the ball. I don't know how we foul someone (25) times."


I am thinking that is about as much as he can say without getting suspended by our wonderful BSC Commissioner.
 
It is good to see Sac State compete. With that said, I will be rooting they do not take 1st. I don't want to see the embarrassment they will have for the conference tournament. Even EWU would be better. Ideally, I prefer GRIZ, MSU, or Weber State are the host cities. NAU, SUU, Idaho, UND have alright venues.
 
mtgrizrule said:
It is good to see Sac State compete. With that said, I will be rooting they do not take 1st. I don't want to see the embarrassment they will have for the conference tournament. Even EWU would be better. Ideally, I prefer GRIZ, MSU, or Weber State are the host cities. NAU, SUU, Idaho, UND have alright venues.


On the contrary, if it isn't Montana, I actually hope it is Sac. The league deserves the embarrassment. Foolerton needs to stand in front of a microphone (except he's a pussy and will send poor Jon Kasper instead) and explain why a DI conference championship is being played in the Heritage Ballroom at the Best Western Hotel in Roseville. He needs to call ESPN and tell them they better bring their small cameras, because the doors into the Heritage aren't real wide.

Then he needs to promptly resign so they can hire someone with more intelligence and skills -- perhaps a 7th grader of average IQ?-- to actually run this league like a real DI conference.
 
EverettGriz said:
mtgrizrule said:
It is good to see Sac State compete. With that said, I will be rooting they do not take 1st. I don't want to see the embarrassment they will have for the conference tournament. Even EWU would be better. Ideally, I prefer GRIZ, MSU, or Weber State are the host cities. NAU, SUU, Idaho, UND have alright venues.


On the contrary, if it isn't Montana, I actually hope it is Sac. The league deserves the embarrassment. Foolerton needs to stand in front of a microphone (except he's a pussy and will send poor Jon Kasper instead) and explain why a DI conference championship is being played in the Heritage Ballroom at the Best Western Hotel in Roseville. He needs to call ESPN and tell them they better bring their small cameras, because the doors into the Heritage aren't real wide.

Then he needs to promptly resign so they can hire someone with more intelligence and skills -- perhaps a 7th grader of average IQ?-- to actually run this league like a real DI conference.

:clap:
 
mtgrizrule said:
putter said:
Up 13 and choke it away. Piss poor calls didn't help but really.....Montana has been terrible at the line for years now.

Wrong, last season and maybe the prior the season, the GRIZ were very high in FT% nationally. A lot of questionable calls on both sides this game. Terrible officiating. GRIZ should have not let them back into the game. Too many uncharacteristic turnovers. Should have never lost that game. Congrats to Sac State.


grizrule: i feel free-throw percentages are deceiving. here's why.

say you have five one-and-ones. you convert both ends of three, and miss the front ends of two. so you make six of eight free throws, and your percentage is a respectable 75%. but being the front end of a one and one, the two misses mean you've lost a potential four points. now if you look at it my way, that you've made six of a potential ten, your percentage drops to 60%. i don't have the exact figures for last night's game, but if the friz made eight of 14 free throws--57%--but missed the front end of three one and ones, by my book they shot less than 50%.

free-throw shooting has killed this team. we'd be sitting with wins over cal, boise state and sac state if we'd just been able to make free throws at critical times.
 
citay said:
mtgrizrule said:
putter said:
Up 13 and choke it away. Piss poor calls didn't help but really.....Montana has been terrible at the line for years now.

Wrong, last season and maybe the prior the season, the GRIZ were very high in FT% nationally. A lot of questionable calls on both sides this game. Terrible officiating. GRIZ should have not let them back into the game. Too many uncharacteristic turnovers. Should have never lost that game. Congrats to Sac State.


grizrule: i feel free-throw percentages are deceiving. here's why.

say you have five one-and-ones. you convert both ends of three, and miss the front ends of two. so you make six of eight free throws, and your percentage is a respectable 75%. but being the front end of a one and one, the two misses mean you've lost a potential four points. now if you look at it my way, that you've made six of a potential ten, your percentage drops to 60%. i don't have the exact figures for last night's game, but if the griz made eight of 14 free throws--57%--but missed the front end of three one and ones, by my book they shot less than 50%.

free-throw shooting has killed this team. we'd be sitting with wins over cal, boise state and sac state if we'd just been able to make free throws at critical times.

Citay, I agree. THIS YEAR's GRIZ have killed themselves at the FT line. I cannot and will not dispute that. I was referencing the prior 2 years. Hell the FT shooting won a few games for us the last few seasons. FT shooting was terrific the last few years under Wayne Tinkle.
 
Griz outplayed Sac.

25 FG to 19, 50% to 46%.
11 3Ptrs 6, 52% to 40%.

Free throws?
53% to 76%. Sac were definitely the better shooters from the line, but the numbers, 8 Griz points to 26 Sac points? Seriously? Sac scored 26 points out of 34 attempts while the Griz had 8 out of 15?

Sac stayed in the game only because of free throw points; otherwise it would have been a blowout in favor of the Griz actually playing basketball, as opposed to the collegiate version of playing H-O-R-S-E with bigger words.

Griz season average on Free Throws is 70%. Sac is 74%. Upcoming Eagles are 74%. Not that much different.

I'd rather have our FG and 3pt record than their FT record; but you can't beat 34 engraved invitations to score points as were handed out by the Refs last night. Of course, that put our best shots in foul trouble. So, we lose points, and lose point-making potential.

Yeah, we could've won the game with just one well-placed shot, or just shooting free throws at our normal season percentage, and that's frustrating as hell.
 
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