Great article on spread offenses with quotes from Stitt

[SoldierGriz]

People want "winning" football. I personally don't care WHAT offense we run.

Exactly.

I generally agree. Did either of you guys miss Air Read when BH shifted to a more pro set offense? Winning continued but the philosophy changed. I missed the five-wide and the excitement of the pass first game. I also enjoyed the excitement of the Oregon spread offense that Pflu brought, even though we experienced both winning and losing with the system.

I liked them both. Air read was damn exciting and they won a bunch of games. BH teams were tough as hell and got better and better as the season progressed which made that brand exciting as well...

 

[grizatwork]

Stitt is no Belichick.

Neither was Belichick for many years. He had the luxury of developing into the where he is now with probably the most supportive ownership in all of sports and arguably the best quarterback of all time.

 

[get'em_griz]

Stitt is no Belichick.

Neither was Belichick for many years. He had the luxury of developing into the where he is now with probably the most supportive ownership in all of sports and arguably the best quarterback of all time.

Great coaches aren't just suddenly great coaches. Nick Saban, like Belichick, didn't have great results either when he first started his head coaching career, and now he's the best coach in all of college football.

1995, Michigan State: 6-5-1
1996, Michigan State: 6-6
1997, Michigan State: 7-5
1998, Michigan State: 6-6
1999, Michigan State: 9-2

The anti-Stitt crowd would have been the same ones to hate on Saban in his early years and then hop on the band wagon when he started dominating.

 

[grizatwork]

Stitt is no Belichick.

Neither was Belichick for many years. He had the luxury of developing into the where he is now with probably the most supportive ownership in all of sports and arguably the best quarterback of all time.

Great coaches aren't just suddenly great coaches. Nick Saban, like Belichick, didn't have great results either when he first started his head coaching career, and now he's the best coach in all of college football.

1995, Michigan State: 6-5-1
1996, Michigan State: 6-6
1997, Michigan State: 7-5
1998, Michigan State: 6-6
1999, Michigan State: 9-2

The anti-Stitt crowd would have been the same ones to hate on Saban in his early years and then hop on the band wagon when he started dominating.

I agree 100% which is why I said Belichick was no Belichick.

 

[AZDoc]

I've always been entertained by spread offense. I like the dynamic playmakers in the open field concept. I like the speed concept. I even like hurry up, and have for years. If you look over time, it's taken a while for a true spread to win the big games. Oregon was/has been an excellent example of this. Win a lot of games and then lose to the slower paced team. Their lack of defense was their Achilles Heel. Clemson had a good defense the last couple years, which I think is the key. Need a solid defense to go with spread offense, that's how spread teams win. Oregon showed cannot do it by outscoring opponents every game.
I like the makeup of this Griz team, albeit a little young/inexperienced in some areas of depth/importance (o line). I think that if the line plays better than last season, QB play is solid, we will be pleasantly surprised with the results, even without Belichick and Tom Brady.

 

[fanofzoo]

If I were a Griz fan (and I think Brint talked about different offensive formations this spring), I would hope Stitt realizes that it may be to his favor to have more players in the backfield on passing downs to help protect instead of on the line of scrimmage. Its easier to pick up and/or recognize blitzes from the backfield instead of looping back from an "off-tackle" formation. The Griz receivers have speed and will get open quickly if given time. You don't need to always have four receivers on the line of scrimmage to create mismatches. Stitt is a smart offensive mind but he doesn't need to overthink his personnel. He has good tight ends on the roster who can help block, not only in the run game, but also in the passing game.

We don't got no stikin TE's.

 

[VimSince03]

If I were a Griz fan (and I think Brint talked about different offensive formations this spring), I would hope Stitt realizes that it may be to his favor to have more players in the backfield on passing downs to help protect instead of on the line of scrimmage. Its easier to pick up and/or recognize blitzes from the backfield instead of looping back from an "off-tackle" formation. The Griz receivers have speed and will get open quickly if given time. You don't need to always have four receivers on the line of scrimmage to create mismatches. Stitt is a smart offensive mind but he doesn't need to overthink his personnel. He has good tight ends on the roster who can help block, not only in the run game, but also in the passing game.

We don't got no stikin TE's.

You do though. The Griz have very good tight ends on the roster. I mean if it helps you sleep at night you can call them by Stitt's system name of "H-receiver".

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Personally, I get more excited and jacked about my team when watching them run right at an opponent all game long and seeing the demoralizing effect on the opponent when they simply have no answer, and by Q3 they have seemingly lost their will to even fight it. Its like watching Royce Gracie back in the day take on opponents who, at a glance, looked like they could tear him apart, but by the end of the fight Royce had left no doubt that his slow, plodding, and often boring approach was far superior and, for that matter, completely demoralizing.


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[sdk.catfish]

For those of you still hoping that we have a "Little Nicky" (Saben) in disguise coaching the Griz you might want to take a look at this list http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1074112-the-50-most-overrated-coaches-in-college-football-history. Little Nicky the movie is much more entertaining than the end of last season. Some pretty good coaches, with some moderate successes listed, but in the end they were judged mediocre - some more than others. Few coaches can escape average coaching stints in lesser programs and morph into legends. Most coaches, while doing what they love, don't achieve any where close to the success of Nick Saben. Could happen but the odds are slim. I happen to believe that Stitt's offense and overall head coaching ability is spawn of the devil and those of you who believe in him are living in sin :evil: .

 

[AZGrizFan]

People want "winning" football. I personally don't care WHAT offense we run.

Exactly.

I generally agree. Did either of you guys miss Air Read when BH shifted to a more pro set offense? Winning continued but the philosophy changed. I missed the five-wide and the excitement of the pass first game. I also enjoyed the excitement of the Oregon spread offense that Pflu brought, even though we experienced both winning and losing with the system.

I liked them both. Air read was damn exciting and they won a bunch of games. BH teams were tough as hell and got better and better as the season progressed which made that brand exciting as well...

Again, I don't care (and have never cared) what offense was run. I am a fan of winning. do I think Stitt will get there? Yes, I do....but fans' ADD is not conducive to an AD having any sort of patience with a coaching staff these days...

 

[krammer]

this is what I understood the article to say regarding Alabama, which I believe to be true......they spread to run ....that means saben is smart enough to change and make teams honest.....these last few years show that they have been the most successful program,,,,heck they not only run 22 and 12 package, but a 22 and 32 package on short yardage.....because their lineman are big and physical just like we could be in our league (fcs)....only difference is we don't choose to do it. oh wait, we run a 32 package with a qb sneak and lineman in the backfield....frustrating !!!!!

 

[sdk.catfish]

by AZGrizFan » Wed May 03, 2017 6:07 pm

Again, I don't care (and have never cared) what offense was run. I am a fan of winning. do I think Stitt will get there? Yes, I do....but fans' ADD is not conducive to an AD having any sort of patience with a coaching staff these days...

AZ - I actually agree with your post and another that you had on another thread which happens to be a first. Here is to becoming BFF's. But............. Athletic Directors don't have the luxury of waiting forever and already, prior to the 17 season, we have some posters saying just wait until 2018 for the breakout season. This is exactly what they said in 15 and 16. If Stitt wants to pass 80% of the time and run 20% I don't care either but those 20% better achieve the goal of getting first downs,keep the defense honest and score enough points to win. I have brought this up before but college football is not about tradition or of character development or anything else honest and moral and rightous . It is about making money and to do that you need to provide the elements within the program that accomplish that. I love Stitt's recruiting philosophy and the diligence he and the coaching staff go through to bring quality recruits into the program. But can he coach big-time winning football? I hope this year provides clarity on that aspect and that there is some sort of fan consensus at the end of the 2017 season on whether he measures up or doesn't.

 

[fanofzoo]

Must have running game for Woody said "when you pass the ball three things can happen and two are bad".
Although living here I have come to like that passing game even without having one, now. This is football people, "me will beat you" usually wins so what is so hard to understand, stitt. Get some running backs that are bigger than carnival ride requirements.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Does anybody remember how badly we were losing when DD came in and pulled off the then miracle comeback? Air Read was air dud until it had a next level QB of DD's caliber. He could easily score 50 with this offense if he could stay off his back. (And that's not opinion that's fact). I'm looking forward to this o- line jelling over the summer and one of the QB's taking over. Don't forget DD was not able to claim the starting job in fall camp.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Must have running game for Woody said "when you pass the ball three things can happen and two are bad".
Although living here I have come to like that passing game even without having one, now. This is football people, "me will beat you" usually wins so what is so hard to understand, stitt. Get some running backs that are bigger than carnival ride requirements.

1. Incomplete
2. Punch a student athlete in the neck after a pick, and then turn on your own player before being restrained by a staffmember because you are too much of a baby to accept anything less than the perfect result thus proving that you are the original snowflake to never coach again.
3. Complete

 

[fanofzoo]

I know, I know, legends die easy. Don't forget the USC player he went after. But he had an O line !

 

[Gaeilge1]

Unquestionably the best quote from Bob Stitt in this article is not the one you all are focused on but rather this one,

"Stitt says he'd be content to either run or throw on every play for an entire game."

WELL, YEAH!!! :shock:

Kind of sums up the Stitt coaching philosophy. The guy should run for President!

 

[Ursa Major]

Must have running game for Woody said "when you pass the ball three things can happen and two are bad".
Although living here I have come to like that passing game even without having one, now. This is football people, "me will beat you" usually wins so what is so hard to understand, stitt. Get some running backs that are bigger than carnival ride requirements.

1. Incomplete
2. Punch a student athlete in the neck after a pick, and then turn on your own player before being restrained by a staffmember because you are too much of a baby to accept anything less than the perfect result thus proving that you are the original snowflake to never coach again.
3. Complete

:lol: :lol: :lol: Wecome back CDA!!!

 

[HookedonGriz]

Unquestionably the best quote from Bob Stitt in this article is not the one you all are focused on but rather this one,

"Stitt says he'd be content to either run or throw on every play for an entire game."

WELL, YEAH!!! :shock:

Kind of sums up the Stitt coaching philosophy. The guy should run for President!

Meaning he would run on every play if that is what D gone him or he would pass every single play if that is what D gave him. His point was it's all how the D chooses to defend. Think you read too much into that one.

 

[uofmman1122]

Unquestionably the best quote from Bob Stitt in this article is not the one you all are focused on but rather this one,

"Stitt says he'd be content to either run or throw on every play for an entire game."

WELL, YEAH!!! :shock:

Kind of sums up the Stitt coaching philosophy. The guy should run for President!

Meaning he would run on every play if that is what D gone him or he would pass every single play if that is what D gave him. His point was it's all how the D chooses to defend. Think you read too much into that one.

That's not even a quote. It's the author's awful and ambiguous writing that makes it hard to understand and sound stupid.