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Gradney/Meyer - Then & Now

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7.) Trevin Gradney - Billings West (6’0”, 170 lbs.)

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• UM signee - CB
• 2018 1st Team All-State AA – CB
• 2017 2nd Team All-State AA – CB
• 2018 2nd Team All-USA Today Montana – DB
• 2018 GFT Super-State – DB
• 2018 Badlands selection - CB
• 2018 Shrine Game alternate – CB
• 46 total tackles (26 solo); 4 interceptions; 9 PBUs; 4 TFLs (senior year)
• 41 total tackles; 5 interceptions; 15 PBUs; 4 FFs; 4 TFLs (junior year)
• 24 career PBUs; 9 career interceptions
• 2018 State Track Placer – 2nd in 400M (49.55)
• 2018 State Track Qualifier – 200M
• 2nd ranked CB

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/8393148/5c04785db534360878f50801

On Gradney: Trevin burst onto the scene in the fall of 2017 with an excellent junior campaign that saw him breakup 15 passes and collect five interceptions. The spring 2018 track season led to Trevin experiencing more success, finishing second to future Griz RB Drew Turner in the 400M dash at State AA with an impressive 49.55 race time (yes Drew is fast). Based off his junior football film and production in track, Trevin became a top in-state recruit heading into the summer prior to his senior year. By the end of summer 2018, he had two in-state offers from the Griz and Cats, eventually choosing the Griz to be his future home this past fall. As a football player, he primarily plays CB but he dabbled on the offensive side of the ball as a part-time WR his senior year. Anyway, corner is his future position at the next level. Trevin has a long, athletic frame with long legs, long arms, and a high waist similar to that of a long distance runner. Despite that size, he's an easy mover with loose hips and a fluid backpedal. Trevin's 400M skills are prevalent in coverage as he effortlessly runs with receivers downfield. He's an intelligent player with a knack for finding the ball in coverage where he will usually play the ball, not the man. Trevin has excellent ball skills as it was fairly difficult to feather touch throws over him downfield (see 1:53 and 3:51 in highlight). He's an instinctual player who rarely squanders opportunities to take the ball away in his coverage. His length naturally helps him overwhelm receivers in contested catch situations. Trevin's awareness also stands out on film. He has quick plant-and-drive ability to peel off his man and play the ball. Trevin's pattern recognition is outstanding as he rarely gets fooled or lost in coverage. He shows the ability to "set up" quarterbacks into throwing his way by giving some space before breaking on the throw. AA teams schemed away from him his senior year because of his sticky coverage. As a run defender, he will get the job done...even if it isn't pretty. Basically, he gives what he's got as a hitter and tackler and shows the necessary willingness to hold contain on edge runs. However, there are things to fix/improve. Trevin is going to be matched up against bigger receivers in college due to his length and sticky coverage on deep routes. This will also lead to physical battles in press coverage where Trevin will have to improve. For a kid with his length, he rarely executed jamming receivers at the line when lined up in press and did not consistently bully receivers on the boundary when opportunities were present. Instead, he showed a tendency to open his hips up much too early in press. On several occasions, he could've had his receiver dead to rights at the line but instead allowed a free release. When Trevin got matched up against bigger kids like Anthony Jones or Ryan Simpson, he made it much harder on himself to win those battles. Trevin will learn to do a better job of squeezing the receiver to the sideline while running with them downfield. He'll need to improve his tackling as his technique is rather sloppy. Again, Trevin does get the job done in the run game but he will be required to improve under Coach Hauck. He's more of a finesse corner than "grabby" or physical. Like I said above, he likes to play the ball, not the man. Trevin's performance in the State AA title game highlighted his strengths and weaknesses all in one game as he had an up and down night against Anthony Jones. In the play referenced above (3:51), Trevin gives little resistance in press coverage and gives Anthony a clean release. After getting beat, he gets late safety help from Lucas Gibb and recovers adequately to knock the ball away on an underthrown ball downfield. Overall, Trevin's long-speed is college ready. The tools are clearly there to be an early starter. He has the athleticism and awareness to fit into any type of coverage or scheme. He is a long-armed ball-hawk who understands how to maximize his length to disrupt the catch and take it away. He is armed with route anticipation, ball skills, and college length that teams covet in a press-man corner. Right now, Trevin is more comfortable in zone but developing press skills takes time. If his development goes as planned, Trevin will be a corner you can "leave on an island" in no time at the next level.

11.) Ryder Meyer – Fairfield (5'9”, 170 lbs.)

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• UM signee – S
• 2x Class B All-State
• 2016 Class B 2nd Team All-Conference - DB
• 2018 1st Team All-USA Today Montana – DB
• 2018 GFT Super-State – DB
• 2018 Badlands selection - S
• 2018 Shrine Game selection – S
• 112 total tackles; 3 interceptions; 2525 total offensive yards; 43 total touchdowns (senior year)
• 44-2 career record as a four-time letter winner book-ended by State B titles in 2015 & 2018 (semifinal losses in 2016 & 2017)
• Voted 2017-2018 Basketball Team Defensive MVP by teammates
• 2018 State Track Qualifier – 100M
• 2018 Finalist - U.S. Army/Pro Football Hall of Fame Award for Excellence (based on athletic, academic, & civic achievements of students)
• 3rd ranked S

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/6408078/5bf8de8015f6760cfc1549c9

On Meyer: Ryder only experienced two losses during his four years of varsity football and those happened in the 2016 and 2017 Class B semifinals. He played in the secondary each year and moved from WR to QB for his final two years. Ryder is a high character kid who plays every down with the same level of grit and urgency. He’s what you want from a team captain/leader and leads by example with his fearless, physical play. Ryder began to get on in-state program’s radar his junior season when he played QB and FS for the Eagles. As a QB, he never really threw the ball well but like the true competitor he is, he made it work. Ryder excelled as a slash-and-dash runner who was hard to tackle in the open field because of his agility and toughness. He was productive as a QB and was a major reason for Fairfield’s offensive success in 2017 and 2018. But Ryder’s best position has always been free safety. His football intelligence from the safety position is up there with the best safeties Montana has produced the last five years. He’s quick to diagnose what an offense doing and is rarely caught out of position because of his play recognition pre-snap. When Ryder reads run, he comes downfield with vigor and straight-up thumps ballcarriers. For a kid his size, he is a forceful hitter and washes out plays to the sideline with a “smack” at the finish. Ryder’s pursuit speed is adequate as his strides are fluid and powerful. He takes consistently optimal angles in pursuit whether it’s in run support or helping in coverage. As stated above, he rarely has to gamble because he diagnoses plays really well pre- and post-snap. There are numerous examples on his junior and senior tape where he easily sniffs out reverses, play-action bootlegs, and counters. On top of that, his tackling is excellent so those trick plays usually lose yards when he’s in pursuit. His lateral agility also helps his tackling ability as its hard to shake him. In pass coverage, he sticks his foot in the ground and accelerates to squeeze routes approaching his cover area. Ryder has good speed to range over the top on deep throws and bring down running backs in the flat starting from his free safety position. He doesn’t give up a ton of extra yards in his coverage if the ball is caught in front of him. Ryder is patient in pattern recognition but not too patient to let plays expose him. He trusts what he sees, plays with an edge, and is very strong for his size. Ryder always surprised bigger kids with his physicality and he laid out a bunch of dudes that were much bigger than him. As for things to improve, he doesn’t have too many issues. The obvious deficiency is his lack of length and overall frame to play safety in college. He could struggle to handle size when covering down field or supporting the run at the next level. Ryder also doesn’t have top, straight-line speed so that may hurt him in coverage or in pursuit. But really that is about it. His agility, first-step, instincts, speed/burst, and tackling technique are all pluses. Ryder’s will to compete and play-demeanor should earn him playing time early in his career, especially on special teams. An easy comparison for Ryder is current Griz safety Robby Hauck. They almost have the exact same playing style. Everyone got to see how Robby overcame his size limitations his first year in Missoula so Ryder should be seeing the field sooner than later for the Griz.

Above are my two high school breakdowns written in on January 31, 2019. Fast forward 4 years and the Griz have two in-state players in the secondary making waves for the defense. Everything I saw in high school is showing up on film in college. Really happy for these two!
 
brewskis said:
You hit the nail on the head with these two!

I've had some clear misses but I'm pretty proud of these two!

My final top 20 for 2019:

1.) Ryan Lonergan - TE (Bozeman)
2.) Garrison Poetzl - DL (Billings Senior)
3.) Jesse Owens - ATH (Billings West)
4.) Chrishon Dixon - ATH (Billings Central)
5.) Holden Sampson - OL (Helena High)
6.) Ryan Tirrell - LB (Missoula Loyola)
7.) Trevin Gradney - CB (Billings West)
8.) Joe Olson - RB (Bozeman)
9.) Alex Johnson - LB/S (Helena High)
10.) Blake Counts - RB (Kalispell Flathead)
11.) Ryder Meyer - S (Fairfield)
12.) Marcus Wehr - OL/DL (Billings Central)
13.) Blake Thelen - QB (Great Falls High)
14.) Brody Grebe - LB/DE (Roundup)
15.) Connor Paul - OL (Billings West)
16.) Lucas Gibb - S (Billings West)
17.) Landers Smith - ATH (Charlo)
18.) Alaric Greil - DL (Helena Capital)
19.) Anthony Jones - WR (Kalispell Flathead)
20.) Kris Brown - QB (Bozeman)

Other notables:

22.) Ryan Simpson - WR (Bozeman)
24.) Rylan Ortt - ATH (Missoula Sentinel)
39.) Justus Perkins - OL (Bozeman)

Ryan Lonergan has been healthy but Treyton Pickering and Derryk Snell literally never get hurt and are better blockers than Ryan so he's been #3 behind those two for his third year running now. Will be the guy his senior season though.

Garrison Poetzl still has one of the best interior defensive line tapes I've seen from a Montana kid. Never worked out and left the UM roster after one season.

Jesse Owens went from UM football (where he was the scout team offensive player of the year I think) to MSU for basketball one year and then home to Billings to play basketball for Rocky Mountain. Jesse was Junior Bergen before Junior Bergen as return specialist and offensive weapon!

Dixon elected to play basketball for hometown MSU-Billings and entered the transfer portal in 2021. Not sure what happened after that but a really talented corner on the football field.

Sampson has been good enough for the two deep since his redshirt freshman season but MSU has developed and recruited so well he likely will never break the starting lineup unless there is an injury at center.

Ryan Tirrell had great high school film but I got the most guff with his ranking at #6...mostly negative. They thought the only reason he'll play at UM was because of nepotism being Hauck's nephew. I got that comment a lot from UM fans as well which was surprising so maybe there were inter-Missoula high school football politics at play. Anyway, Ryan is now a starter and he looks phenomenal. I think he has a shot at All-Big Sky this year actually. Sorry haters!

Gradney oozed potential in high school but he just had to develop a bit at the college level. He now has flipped games for UM in his first three starts.

Joe Olson got hurt before ever walking on MSU's campus and never got ahead in the RB depth battle. Off the roster within a year and a half. He and Blake Counts had one of the best RB years ever in the state as both competed for 2,000 rushing yards. Very Bonds vs. Sosa of them. It was fun to watch.

Alex was a clear tweener coming out of high school and never really found his spot in college. He worked his way up the depth chart and was the 4th LB in the rotation in 2021 but he got beat out in 2022 and was relegated to mostly special teams. Decided to graduate last year and he'll be an incredible teacher of young kids!

Blake has been the lead back at Montana Tech since his true freshman season and he'll go for some records this fall for the Orediggers.

Already discussed Meyer above but I'm not surprised by what he's doing despite still being undersized. Bobby Hauck will find an undersized safety every year if he has to and make them into a productive player.

Marcus Wehr decided to pull a 180 in 2022 and convert himself into an offensive lineman. By spring ball in 2022, he was starting at RT and he's yet to give up the spot. Prior to injuring himself last year against UNC, he was on pace for All Big Sky honors and is currently one of the highest graded players on MSU's offense. He's a beast!

Thelen decided to walk away from MSU and go get some starting time at Montana Tech. He's currently in his second year starting at Tech and will get to play his final year competing for All-Frontier honors.

Brody Grebe was just a misevaluation by me. I ranked him 14th saying he lacked top-end speed and he then almost ran a sub :11 100m dash at about 215 lbs. at the State C meet while long jumping over 21 feet and throwing the shot over 50 ft. A big whoops by me!

Connor Paul was a block at guard for Billings West and decided to go play for University of Mary in Bismark, ND. He has been a 4-year starter since his true freshman season in 2019 and not many kids can say that. Playing his final season for former Griz Shann Schillinger!

Gibb was a great safety in high school and decided to attend Duke for school.

Landers Smith has dealt with some injuries and getting beat out on the depth chart for Tech. But he's a RB entering his redshirt junior season for the Orediggers being a backup to Blake Counts. Landers was a freak show in high school for Charlo. Glad he's stuck it out at Tech.

Greil committed to Tech but only made it a few years. Had the build to be a solid DL.

Jones also committed to Tech and played as a true freshman at WR. Covid year happened and he wasn't on the roster anymore.

Kris Brown has played about as much as anyone on this list minus Marcus Wehr and Brody Grebe in college. His career at UM has been much discussed but Kris has done nothing but compete and try to develop within the offense he's given. If I would've re-ranked this, Kris would comfortably be in the Top 10. He's a solid backup QB and is definitely talented enough to compete at the FCS level.

Simpson, Ortt, and Perkins all were undervalued by me. Simpson has worked himself into the two-deep at WR, Ortt is arguably one of the best safeties in the conference, and Perkins is entered his 3rd season as the starting center for MSU.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Actually a hell of a class....

I was told I was a Bobcat homer for this class even though UM received 5 of the Top 11 so you can't win 'em all I guess. A lot wanted Owens as the #1 but it was hard to argue against Lonergan. But right now the top 10 players are Marcus Wehr, Brody Grebe, Trevin Gradney, Rylan Ortt, Ryan Tirrell, Ryder Meyer, Justus Perkins, Ryan Lonergan, Kris Brown, and Ryan Simpson (no order).

Griz commits:

2.) Garrison Poetzl - Billings Senior (6'4", 250 lbs.)
3.) Jesse Owens - Billings West (5’9”, 175 lbs.)
6.) Ryan Tirrell - Missoula Loyola (6'2", 205 lbs.)
7.) Trevin Gradney - Billings West (6’0”, 170 lbs.)
11.) Ryder Meyer – Fairfield (5'9”, 170 lbs.)
20.) Kris Brown – Bozeman (6’4”, 210 lbs.)
22.) Ryan Simpson – Bozeman (6’6”, 190 lbs.)
30.) Noah Ambuehl – Great Falls Central Catholic (6’3”, 220 lbs.)
45.) Dillon Botner – Whitefish (6’6”, 225 lbs.)

Bobcat commits:

1.) Ryan Lonergan - Bozeman (6'4", 220 lbs.)
5.) Holden Sampson - Helena High (6’3”, 250 lbs.)
8.) Joe Olson - Bozeman (6’0”, 195 lbs.)
9.) Alex Johnson - Helena High (6’2”, 185 lbs.)
12.) Marcus Wehr – Billings Central (6’3”, 220 lbs.)
13.) Blake Thelen – Great Falls High (6’3”, 185 lbs.)
14.) Brody Grebe – Roundup/Melstone (6’2”, 205 lbs.)
23.) Tanner Trafton – Lewistown (6’5”, 190 lbs.)
24.) Rylan Ortt – Missoula Sentinel (6’2”, 185 lbs.)
36.) Logan Gilliard – Bigfork (6’3”, 210 lbs.)
39.) Justus Perkins – Bozeman (6’1”, 240 lbs.)
 
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