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Good, Bad, Ugly - EWU
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mtgrizrule
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Ugly: I can no longer stomach reading through most egriz threads these days. Why?
Ugliest: Some of our fans on egriz.
Ugliest: Some of our fans on egriz.
CV Griz Fan
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Bad- Stitt punting on 4th down while down 19 points at the 5 min mark. Sure the Griz were deep in their own territory but why punt? You just surrendered the win with that decision.
GoldenEagle
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Your strength of schedule improved.
G-BEARS said:
It isn't blasphemy. It just isn't borne out in the numbers, which makes it an opinion. And when it's an opinion not borne out by the numbers, it's bound to be questioned.
G-BEARS said:
So, you are using the numbers, which show the kicker has missed a ton of extra points, to support saying he has played poorly (at least in kicking points)? Seems fine and supported to me. Who would possibly disagree with the statement that the kicker has missed way to many extra points?
Now let's see you use stats, or anything concrete other than your opinion, to show that BG has been playing poorly. Again, we don't want your opinion. Back up your view with something tangible.
UMGriz75
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It's frustrating to see how well the offense is doing on actually moving the ball, but comparing that to tangible results.PlayerRep said:
In the two recent games, Our Offense put up 1,081 yards against our opponents' combined offense of 860 yards. But, we scored 50 points, they scored 80.
Our Defense kept our opponents' combined yardage of 860 yards well below their typical game yardages of 920 yards. But, our Defense kept their combined scores to 80 which is exactly their average scores against all of their opponents this season. Like of the Offense, the kids seem to be doing the job on the field, but we can't keep the other guys out of the end zone.
Of course, looked at another way, NAU and EWU were able to score the same number of points against our Defense with 860 yards of play that usually takes them 920 yards to achieve. We made it easy for them.
The average scores of EWU and NAU opponents this season is 57 points per game. We scored 50. We are not the best that those two teams have faced. We are not even average. We are below average. It's not for lack of talent on the field.
RayWill
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UMGriz75 said:
Yeah, have to agree here. Watched multiple Ewu games. NO CO, UC DAVIS, MSU all were able to perform at a higher level against them. MT was not able to execute. The game plan was there ( wide open receivers etc) but the execution was way off (dropped passes, blown coverage etc)
Difference was those teams capitalized on the opportunity when presented where UM was unable to do so.
And I am all for that kind of statistical and other analysis. I have also said in the past that I am not sold on the offense, at least yet, in part because it seems to lead to too much inconsistency and seems prone to mistake. I have also said that the defense is also prone to mistakes that can lead to big plays for the opposing team. Baldwin also said this after the game and was quoted on it. My views were only impressions and based on watching games and looking at results from afar. Don't know if my impressions are correct or would be borne out by stats.
Throw the stats out the window. The highest ranked team we have beat is uni at 29th.
St Francis....50
Suu............33
Sac St.........98
Miss. Valley...125
Uni.............29
We should have big numbers. The positive going forward is msu is 74. Northern Co is 30. Isu..76
With Northern Colorado on the road it will be close. Choate is preparing for UM as we speak. The 4 year seniors on that team haven't beat the Griz and I'm sure Newell and Brekke would love nothing more than to beat us (I highly doubt they can).
The stats show everything but the truth......the truth is Stitt better get these kids ready to play 60 minutes of football for three games or we may end with a train wreck.
St Francis....50
Suu............33
Sac St.........98
Miss. Valley...125
Uni.............29
We should have big numbers. The positive going forward is msu is 74. Northern Co is 30. Isu..76
With Northern Colorado on the road it will be close. Choate is preparing for UM as we speak. The 4 year seniors on that team haven't beat the Griz and I'm sure Newell and Brekke would love nothing more than to beat us (I highly doubt they can).
The stats show everything but the truth......the truth is Stitt better get these kids ready to play 60 minutes of football for three games or we may end with a train wreck.
Good offense was able to start fast and control time of possession initially and first score.
Bad allowing EWU's best WR to get behind DBs. 15 yard PI looks pretty good compared to long pass completions.
Ugly DBs being beat for big plays and TDs, long plays killed UM player moral. Defense not prepared for quick snaps. Injuries. Not getting the 50/50 balls in air or fumbles. First half score after controlling the ball well.
Congratulations to EWU their players executed very well, hats off to Baldwin for a well coached game.
Hope the DBs can work out some of the coverage issues or take a PI when beat instead of big chunk plays.
Not complaining about the player more the officials, looked like JC got hit in earhole with the crown of the helmet, with injury timeout isn't targeting able to be called by replay or does it have to be called on the field or is it not targeting because RB is a runner and defensive player has right to hit helmet to helmet with the crown of the helmet or was it not helmet to helmet. Did not have problem with how EWU defensive players played thought officials dropped the ball.
Griz are now cornered with their backs against the wall, we will see how they respond. Go Griz!
Bad allowing EWU's best WR to get behind DBs. 15 yard PI looks pretty good compared to long pass completions.
Ugly DBs being beat for big plays and TDs, long plays killed UM player moral. Defense not prepared for quick snaps. Injuries. Not getting the 50/50 balls in air or fumbles. First half score after controlling the ball well.
Congratulations to EWU their players executed very well, hats off to Baldwin for a well coached game.
Hope the DBs can work out some of the coverage issues or take a PI when beat instead of big chunk plays.
Not complaining about the player more the officials, looked like JC got hit in earhole with the crown of the helmet, with injury timeout isn't targeting able to be called by replay or does it have to be called on the field or is it not targeting because RB is a runner and defensive player has right to hit helmet to helmet with the crown of the helmet or was it not helmet to helmet. Did not have problem with how EWU defensive players played thought officials dropped the ball.
Griz are now cornered with their backs against the wall, we will see how they respond. Go Griz!
Diesel said:
PGM the hit to helmet was the initial contact before being driven into the turf. Good picture of facemask penalty that didn't get called. Helmet being pulled down over his eyes. I'm not saying it was a dirty play or officials caused Griz to lose, just saying they had a long time to look at play that caused injury. Question of replay being able to call a targeting on play if it isn't called on the field, maybe targeting has to be called on field then automatic review or not reviewable w/o call on field.
mtgrizrule said:
Oh come on dude. Is it really anything that new? Seriously, what were you expecting??
And have you ever visited other fan boards where a historically very successful program is struggling? Makes this board look tame. Check out the Golden Domers' fan sites sometime after a tough loss for a good definition of apoplectic. It's really quite funny
