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Get Rid of Engstrom!

Fiscal year is july 1. I assumed day's contract ends 6/30 and he will get paid until then.
 
Not knowing all of the facts I will reserve judgement on Mr. Engstrom. I am however, just like all of the rest of the Griz Nation left scratching my head about how this was done.
 
Grizmayor said:
argh! said:
Tokyogriz said:
Hysterical Witch Hunt

FU Royce.

FIRE ROYCE and enough of the god damn witch hunt people. UM didnt cause these issues rape, etc is the fault of AMERICAN society and we all hold the blame.

Sincerely eat shit Royce. I look forward to UM getting the holy living shit sued out of them for wrongful termination.

he just did his job the way it is supposed to be done. you need to calm down.
+1
+6.93 8-)
 
Grizinmyyard said:
Not knowing all of the facts I will reserve judgement on Mr. Engstrom. I am however, just like all of the rest of the Griz Nation left scratching my head about how this was done.

Currently I do not have a problem with how it was done, and not sure why people do.
 
grizindabox said:
Grizinmyyard said:
Not knowing all of the facts I will reserve judgement on Mr. Engstrom. I am however, just like all of the rest of the Griz Nation left scratching my head about how this was done.

Currently I do not have a problem with how it was done, and not sure why people do.

The only thing I have a problem with was that it wasn't done sooner. :o
 
grizindabox said:
Tokyogriz said:
Pflus current contract ends in december 2012 he was fired not released at the end of his contract.

I believe you are incorrect, as I seem to recall that the contracts are based on the academic year and not the calender year.

Don't doubt Tokyogriz. He's writing letters. The Constitution is at stake here! :roll:
 
Spanky said:
75....harsh comments from someone not having all of the facts. Engstrom made a decision, more than likely, with the approval of his management. Let's see how this plays out as more details are revealed over the next few months. In the meantime, we beat state once again and make the play-offs. Business as usual....


Engstrom didn't consult or even inform his senior vice president who sits in the office next to him. He didn't discuss the situation with O'Day or Pflu. Who do you consider Engstrom's "management" to be?
 
HighLineGRIZ said:
I think people need to settle down and let some things play out before the all get huffy and puffy about all of this. The guy knew his decision would be wildly unpopular. Pflu and Jim have lawyered up and Engstrom and the powers at be will be having to explain themselves. I expect more information to come to light and things to potentially to get even uglier, but at this point all parties are doing exactly what they should be doing by keeping their mouths shut and keeping their emotions at check. One thing I will never understand is "fans" crying for the University harshly being sued. That isn't a good scenario for the University or for the coaches and players who remain with the program. The best scenario for everybody is for Jim and Robin to get what they are fairly owed and for everybody to move on and support whoever is brought into replace them. Sourgrapes don't help anybody.

I don't think Engstrom knew his decision would be wildly unpopular. I don't think he had a clue about the firestorm he is dealing with now. Nothing more is going to come to light, as a reason for the firings.
 
grizindabox said:
Grizinmyyard said:
Not knowing all of the facts I will reserve judgement on Mr. Engstrom. I am however, just like all of the rest of the Griz Nation left scratching my head about how this was done.

Currently I do not have a problem with how it was done, and not sure why people do.

I know you out of state folks don't hear all the local Missoula media news. A couple of the tv and print media have stated that O Day and Pflugrad had clauses in their contracts that required notice if they were to be fired. From what I hear they had no notice.

To me that screams lawsuits. Since I am still a tax paying Montanan, that concerns me. No matter how you cut it, a bungled firing by Engstrom will cost me money.

Not a problem for you. Great. Some of the rest of us don't see anything but lawyers in our future, not so great.
 
PlayerRep said:
Spanky said:
75....harsh comments from someone not having all of the facts. Engstrom made a decision, more than likely, with the approval of his management. Let's see how this plays out as more details are revealed over the next few months. In the meantime, we beat state once again and make the play-offs. Business as usual....


Engstrom didn't consult or even inform his senior vice president who sits in the office next to him. He didn't discuss the situation with O'Day or Pflu. Who do you consider Engstrom's "management" to be?

His "senior vice president" has his own problems at this point.
 
Grizinmyyard said:
grizindabox said:
Grizinmyyard said:
Not knowing all of the facts I will reserve judgement on Mr. Engstrom. I am however, just like all of the rest of the Griz Nation left scratching my head about how this was done.

Currently I do not have a problem with how it was done, and not sure why people do.

I know you out of state folks don't hear all the local Missoula media news. A couple of the tv and print media have stated that O Day and Pflugrad had clauses in their contracts that required notice if they were to be fired. From what I hear they had no notice.

To me that screams lawsuits. Since I am still a tax paying Montanan, that concerns me. No matter how you cut it, a bungled firing by Engstrom will cost me money.

Not a problem for you. Great. Some of the rest of us don't see anything but lawyers in our future, not so great.

They weren't fired. Their contracts aren't being renewed. Expect a severance settlement, and life goes on.
 
Player....Engstrom's management or superiors are the individuals he is responsible to for his decisions. I don't believe that he made the decision without consulting with them.
 
Spanky said:
Player....Engstrom's management or superiors are the individuals he is responsible to for his decisions. I don't believe that he made the decision without consulting with them.

PR is just bummed that his gravy train is over. He was a parasite at UM, anyhow. :shock:
 
NorthwestFresh said:
Grizinmyyard said:
grizindabox said:
Grizinmyyard said:
Not knowing all of the facts I will reserve judgement on Mr. Engstrom. I am however, just like all of the rest of the Griz Nation left scratching my head about how this was done.

Currently I do not have a problem with how it was done, and not sure why people do.

I know you out of state folks don't hear all the local Missoula media news. A couple of the tv and print media have stated that O Day and Pflugrad had clauses in their contracts that required notice if they were to be fired. From what I hear they had no notice.

To me that screams lawsuits. Since I am still a tax paying Montanan, that concerns me. No matter how you cut it, a bungled firing by Engstrom will cost me money.

Not a problem for you. Great. Some of the rest of us don't see anything but lawyers in our future, not so great.

They weren't fired. Their contracts aren't being renewed. Expect a severance settlement, and life goes on.

You must be a lawyer, right?
It is a fine line between a lawsuit and a settlement. Either way someone walks off with some taxpayer cash.
 
Spanky said:
Player....Engstrom's management or superiors are the individuals he is responsible to for his decisions. I don't believe that he made the decision without consulting with them.

He didn't consult his vp Jim Foley. Seems like a glaring omission to me.
 
PlayerRep said:
Spanky said:
Player....Engstrom's management or superiors are the individuals he is responsible to for his decisions. I don't believe that he made the decision without consulting with them.

He didn't consult his vp Jim Foley. Seems like a glaring omission to me.

For such a smart guy, you consistently miss the obvious.
 
Oh, and PR, now might be a good time to just stay silent, and start corroborating your stories with your access points that are still at UM. The NCAA just might be coming to town, and may have already started asking questions. :shock:
 

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