mthoopsfan
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That’s a very nice and accurate post. And realistic.
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G5 presidents to meet about leaving Power 5 schools.
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mthoopsfan
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The locker room wants to go to the FCS national championship game and win it. A number of those guys chose FCS over FBS. I talked to a number of them about that very subject this summer. Frisco or bust.
MikeyGriz
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No there's not, because at the fbs level, some of those guys wouldn't be in the locker room.
For years I’ve argued ad nauseam that UM needed to drastically increase its student fees, which are ridiculously low. The state of Montana also has to decide whether we would like our top college athletics teams to fade into obscurity or not, and to adequately fund them if we want them to remain competitive and relevant in todays college football environment. Funding issues could be solved in Helena. If it’s important to Montanans, we can find the funding, perhaps with a ballot initiative for a small tax increase to fund our premier universities for a transition to a higher level.What conference?
Mountain West's average athletic budget must be up around $50 million. UM's is $25 million.
" Air Force ranks first at $76.5 million, followed by San Diego State at $65 million, UNLV at $64 million and Colorado State at $61 million.
- Notably, Boise State ranks one spot below the Bulldogs, pulling in $50.5 million in revenue.
- San Jose State is the lowest revenue grossing team in the conference at $39 million."
See the amounts of state funds the MW schools get? Do you think the Montana BOR is going to pony up that kind of money? Look like UM gets $7 million from the State. https://knightnewhousedata.org/fcs/university-montana
State/university money
1. Hawaii, $27,678,753
2. Colorado State, $22,262,693
3. Nevada, $20,505,326
4. Utah State, $19,833,536
5. Fresno State, $18,877,397
6. UNLV, $18,787,735
7. Wyoming, $18,723,995
8. San Diego State, $15,306,426
9. New Mexico, $14,950,688
10. San Jose State, $14,830,300
11. Boise State, $12,832,861
Average, $18,599,065
Median, $18,787,735
Mountain West student fees average over $5 million. Would UM and its students go for that? Looks like gets about $1 million of student fees now.
Inside the numbers: Where the Wolf Pack excels in making money and where it lags
We review Nevada's seven main revenue streams and compare those numbers to the Wolf Pack's Mountain West contemporaries.nevadasportsnet.com
mthoopsfan
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At least in the past, students rejected higher athletic fees.
"University of Montana students roundly rejected a proposed $52 annual increase in athletics fees to raise money to make improvements to the school’s athletics facilities and to build a new art annex.
Students voted 764 for and 1,442 against increasing the athletics fee from $92 a year to $144, which is what students at Montana State are paying.
The University of Montana student government approved the 56 percent fee increase on April 14. Sen. Patrick Rhea appealed the decision to an independent review committee, which found the Associated Students of the University of Montana overstepped its authority in approving the fee increase. ASUM then scheduled a special election."
UM Students Reject Athletics Fees Increase - Flathead Beacon
MISSOULA – University of Montana students roundly rejected a proposed $52 annual increase in athletics fees to raise money to make improvements to the school’s athletics facilities and to build a new art annex. Students voted 764 for and 1,442 against increasing the athletics fee from $92 a year...
flatheadbeacon.com
Why do the cats get 3 million dollars more than we do?
mthoopsfan
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I don't know, but I wonder if MSU just allocates more of the overall budget it gets from the State, to athletics? I don't know if BOR approves its university budget allocation line by line, or not.
GU was in pretty intensive talks with the Big 12 a year ago to join for BB. They don’t even have FB, nor many of the sports Big 12 programs have. So, I find it a bit dubious to think we couldn’t join a G5 conference for football only, just like Davis and Poly do in the BSC. I guess I don’t know why flying the FB team to Fort Collins or Boise would be any different than Greeley or Pocatello, money wise. In other words, I don’t think we need more money to move up; I just think we need more desire. That’s all.
mthoopsfan
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So pay coaches same? Don’t increase recruiting budget? Don’t add fbs scholarships in football, and then in other women's sports? Don’t give AD a raise? Don’t add staff to cover 2 conferences? Don’t add more fbs-allowed coaches and staff? Don’t “divert” donations to NIL? Don’t provide cost of living stipends? Expect local businesses to keep donations up even though there will be fewer home games?
What teams-schools play sports in Mountain West, but not football?
mthoopsfan
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Coaching salaries for Boise St. $10 million.
Montana $4 million.
2013.
Montana $4 million.
2013.
Well I would hope so since that's what they're playing for. But you completely missed the point of my post so....
mthoopsfan
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mthoopsfan
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What was your point?
The point was exactly what the post said: that everyone in the GRIZ locker room believes UM would be competitive in the MWC
mthoopsfan
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Okay. However, that is not what you "said" in the post. You may have thought that, but you didn't say it. You didn't even mention the MW, or any other conference. I don't think everyone in the locker room thinks UM would be competitive in the MW. Many believe UM would have to upgrade, probably significantly, to be competitive.
BrownBear9501
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Elaborate on what you mean by UM having to upgrade significantly to be competitive in the MWC….as I see it, right now there is no team in the MWC that Griz football couldn’t be competitive with.
mthoopsfan
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Talent wise. Some players told me that when I was with them this summer. Maybe you have better info than a half dozen players.
No, don’t do any of that shit in year one. I don’t know the coaches as well as you, but I doubt any of them would demand 5x pay in the first year or walk. Just go, and try our hand in the big boy division in CFB.
oldrunner
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The G5 would be the only ones without a playoff system when the P4 pull away from the NCAA. The G5 probably want to be prepared for that. Also, the successful bowl games don't really want The majority of the G5 programs. I'm sure that the NCAA, if they want to remain relevant, will need to take a long hard look at how everything has changed on them. Some are thinking that the NCAA will not be around much longer.
Things, they are a changing.
Things, they are a changing.
Hoops watcher
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If the P4 pull out of the NCAA and have their own exclusive version of March Madness the NCAA is done. No one will pay a billion dollars a year to air that event. Not to mention the tourney shares paid to the big boys are chump change compared to football TV rights so it sure won't stop the P4.
