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UMGriz75 said:
I think the point is we would be damned if we did and damned if we didn't.
UMGriz75 said:
So are you now trying to compare ISU to NDSU....
UMGriz75
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I think the actual fact is, we know how it turned out doing it their way, even though this was predicted as a reasonable probability with this QB. They claimed otherwise, based on "knowledge." They were obviously, disastrously, wrong.PDXGrizzly said:
This is how they respond, by claiming that in the alternative, that what didn't happen would have.
As though they know that with the same certainty for which that they promoted the first outcome which proved so wrong. You know, when you really get it wrong, your alternative scenario must be right! Right? Despite what everyone saw today, these guys are just never wrong.
And note these same fellows now also resort to the sordid defense that this really wasn't a very good Griz team. The coach just needs to get a quality Griz team put together someday. Because "Coach."
Note their contradictions and hypocrisies. You will encounter them again.
UMGriz75 said:
funny thing is that I never said anything about Gus being a good QB....but I stand by the fact that Simis is not a better QB within this system right now....put those stats in your pipe and smoke it...
Speaking in "what-ifs" is a fools game. It serves no one any good.
As for Simis, he will forever be the cat in Schroedinger's box. He is either a scrub or a hero unless someone sees him do it. Since no one did, he exists as both and we, as fans, can bitch and moan about what he might have done right or what he might have screwed up.
In the end, it's all mindless conjecture. We can say "I wish Stitt played someone in the wildcat" or "Brady should have been benched," but in the end, what does it change?
As for a "not a very good team" defense... I think we were a lucky team whose luck was surpassed by another's skill. The ISU game showed us the Griz had luck and the next few games were played like the Griz had fate on their side. I think we were lucky and our luck ran out.
As usual, Go Griz!
As for Simis, he will forever be the cat in Schroedinger's box. He is either a scrub or a hero unless someone sees him do it. Since no one did, he exists as both and we, as fans, can bitch and moan about what he might have done right or what he might have screwed up.
In the end, it's all mindless conjecture. We can say "I wish Stitt played someone in the wildcat" or "Brady should have been benched," but in the end, what does it change?
As for a "not a very good team" defense... I think we were a lucky team whose luck was surpassed by another's skill. The ISU game showed us the Griz had luck and the next few games were played like the Griz had fate on their side. I think we were lucky and our luck ran out.
As usual, Go Griz!
UMGriz75
Well-known member
And since we can't know that, despite his record number of touchdown passes and season record long pass, and the huge contributions made by Jamaal and Hendo when he was passing, we can always just say that it never happened, and that therefore Gus was the better QB despite his performances. You know, your theory that what happened didn't, and what didn't happen, "would have." Stick to your fantasy leagues. Maybe it works there.grizindabox said:
havgrizfan said:
Sorry COMMA, but who the feck are you exactly that you can post that kind of sh*t QUESTION MARK? You post on here like your word should be taken as gospel HYPHEN- and yet give no reason for people to believe it. You're wrong fairly often, then you post crap like this after a really bad loss and fail to qualify it in any way.
So you put period in all caps SEMICOLON; Wow. That's some seriously serious emphasis, which means NADA to anyone reading this tripe. You must be an insider. Seriously, make it make sense, or at least try.
Ummmm, followed by a demonstrably bad opinion COMMA, and ending with your punctuation in all caps before said punctuation is an epic fail.
Just my opinion EXCLAMATION POINT!
Colonelhick
Active member
Gresch Jensen might be a big factor in the rotation next year. I don't think he will beat out Brady by any means, but Chalich, Pflug, Prater and Simis might take a back seat to Jensen. He looks like the real deal and we will be lucky to have him on board for the future. For those who haven't seen his highlight reels, take a look on Hudl and Max Preps. He is bigger than Pflug and it will be interesting to see which one wins the battle to play.
Ya, that's going to be a fun battle to watch in the next few years. I will be very surprised if Stitt doesn't redshirt Jensen next year though. From what I saw at the spring game in Helena, Willy is very composed, mobile, and accurate with the ball. I think he will press for the starting roll next year. Either way, as this year proved, it doesn't hurt to have several QBs.
GrizRanger
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I think all the Griz QB’s who played this year showed some good and some bad. However, I don’t see a championship QB among any of the QBs that played this year (Gus, Simis, Challich, Lucas). That does not mean that they can’t improve and become championship QB’s, but from what I have seen so far, Griz coaches need to keep looking for a championship QB to lead this team.
A championship QB needs many skills, including ability to understand offenses, read defenses, throw accurately, be elusive and mobile under pressure, be a leader, tough/resilient, etc. It is difficult to find young men with all these qualities. I don’t think any of the Griz QB’s who played this year consistently displayed the necessary mix of these characteristics.
Dickenson, Ochs, and Johnson, are among former Griz QB’s who displayed a good mix of such characteristics. We are still looking for the next guy IMO.
A championship QB needs many skills, including ability to understand offenses, read defenses, throw accurately, be elusive and mobile under pressure, be a leader, tough/resilient, etc. It is difficult to find young men with all these qualities. I don’t think any of the Griz QB’s who played this year consistently displayed the necessary mix of these characteristics.
Dickenson, Ochs, and Johnson, are among former Griz QB’s who displayed a good mix of such characteristics. We are still looking for the next guy IMO.
UMGriz75
Well-known member
At Mines, Stitt wasn't much into running offenses; he's never coached to a running game. He had QB's that never ran the ball. Couldn't find any record, though, of anything like a -17 yd performance seen yesterday. He likes the pass. It's always been 3:1, even 4:1 passing. The results varied.Montana37 said:
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