For all the Bobby Hauck lap dogs

[kemajic]

For the 2nd year In the last three we're down to our 3rd string QB. The fact we're winning at all is a f***[*] miracle.o

Have you even considered the fact that the reason our QBs are getting injured is because we pass the ball 50+ times a game and they are eating turf twice as often as teams with balanced attacks?

How imbalanced are we? Would be interesting to see. Have you already seen the total plays divided out between runa and pass?

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Have you even considered the fact that the reason our QBs are getting injured is because we pass the ball 50+ times a game and they are eating turf twice as often as teams with balanced attacks?

How imbalanced are we? Would be interesting to see. Have you already seen the total plays divided out between runa and pass?

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

Travesty! What coach can change this right fucking now? Please tell us. Thanks in advance.

 

[kemajic]

How imbalanced are we? Would be interesting to see. Have you already seen the total plays divided out between runa and pass?

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

Travesty! What coach can change this right f***[*] now? Please tell us. Thanks in advance.

It could change in a real hurry if he runs out of QBs.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Have you even considered the fact that the reason our QBs are getting injured is because we pass the ball 50+ times a game and they are eating turf twice as often as teams with balanced attacks?

How imbalanced are we? Would be interesting to see. Have you already seen the total plays divided out between runa and pass?

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.
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You are completely missing the point. Whitefishbear stated that our qbs are injured because we throw too many times per game, 50+ per him, and actually stated it was a fact. Turns out we are balanced in passing vs rushing attempts. Just about as balanced as possible

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Have you even considered the fact that the reason our QBs are getting injured is because we pass the ball 50+ times a game and they are eating turf twice as often as teams with balanced attacks?

How imbalanced are we? Would be interesting to see. Have you already seen the total plays divided out between runa and pass?

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

I actually would expect there to be more passing yards than rushing yards for a team with balanced attempts. Wouldnt you?

 

[kemajic]

How imbalanced are we? Would be interesting to see. Have you already seen the total plays divided out between runa and pass?

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

You are completely missing the point. Whitefishbear stated that our qbs are injured because we throw too many times per game, 50+ per him, and actually stated it was a fact. Turns out we are balanced in passing vs rushing attempts. Just about as balanced as possible

I'm not missing the point at all; trying to bring better facts to the point. Futile rushing attempts do not dictate defensive scheme. Impactful rushing does. If you can't hurt the defense with your rushing game, they can play the pass more and come after the QB more. Which they do to us. We can hurt teams with our passing game, not our rushing game, and you get after teams like that by putting pressure on the QB. Not so much if you have a dangerous rushing game.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

Travesty! What coach can change this right f***[*] now? Please tell us. Thanks in advance.

It could change in a real hurry if he runs out of QBs.

No name. OK. So, this just complaining without a proposed solution?
They oughta do something about those damned tip jars at the car wash. For that matter, why on Earth is a burger sandwich $6.29 at Hardee's? I got it for $2.79 in my day, and it was better. Something should be done. Not sure what.

 

[kemajic]

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

Travesty! What coach can change this right f***[*] now? Please tell us. Thanks in advance.

It could change in a real hurry if he runs out of QBs.

No name. OK. So, this just complaining without a proposed solution?
They oughta do something about those damned tip jars at the car wash. For that matter, why on Earth is a burger sandwich $6.29 at Hardee's? I got it for $2.79 in my day, and it was better. Something should be done. Not sure what.

Quite a contribution. Too late for poor humor.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Travesty! What coach can change this right f***[*] now? Please tell us. Thanks in advance.

It could change in a real hurry if he runs out of QBs.

No name. OK. So, this just complaining without a proposed solution?
They oughta do something about those damned tip jars at the car wash. For that matter, why on Earth is a burger sandwich $6.29 at Hardee's? I got it for $2.79 in my day, and it was better. Something should be done. Not sure what.

Quite a contribution. Too late for poor humor.

So, what coach can change this right f***[*] now? Please tell us. Thanks in advance.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

You are completely missing the point. Whitefishbear stated that our qbs are injured because we throw too many times per game, 50+ per him, and actually stated it was a fact. Turns out we are balanced in passing vs rushing attempts. Just about as balanced as possible

I'm not missing the point at all; trying to bring better facts to the point. Futile rushing attempts do not dictate defensive scheme. Impactful rushing does. If you can't hurt the defense with your rushing game, they can play the pass more and come after the QB more. Which they do to us. We can hurt teams with our passing game, not our rushing game, and you get after teams like that by putting pressure on the QB. Not so much if you have a dangerous rushing game.

Ok. Can you give me an example of impactful running like a ypc number? Can you give me a couple of team we have played that you comsider to have impactful running attacks?

 

[PlayerRep]

My view is that there is probably some correlation between QB injuries and the number of passes, number of runs by QB's, and quality of pass protection (i.e. sacks, qb hits/hurrys, etc.). It's not percentage or balance; it's number of plays. A team that runs more plays per game. increases the first 2 categories, and perhaps the 3d category if there are lots of passes, which lead to sacks.

 

[AZGrizFan]

That’s your opinion and that’s cool. I just disagree that he should be run out of town. You may not have said the Hauck stuff but there is many on this board that think he will save the program. And I would rather wait until the end of 2018 to have the Griz make that decision.

I understand all the angst, because of the past Griz performance but many fcs programs would enjoy a 19-13 record. I guess Griz fans are just spoiled.

I could be wrong, but really believe that the next three games and next year will be special, but then again I have never been a chicken little. (Not saying you are). Just my personality

For the 2nd year In the last three we're down to our 3rd string QB. The fact we're winning at all is a f***[*] miracle.o

Have you even considered the fact that the reason our QBs are getting injured is because we pass the ball 50+ times a game and they are eating turf twice as often as teams with balanced attacks?

Two completely false statements in one sentence. Well done.


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[garizzalies]

I agree with micky mantle on this. Simply counting the number of plays and calling it balanced does not show the full picture. Hell, many of those plays go into the books as runs but were called passing plays because the qb scrambled. And aren’t sacks counted as runs? While the rbs and wrs get subbed, the qb is in on all 80 plays. This offense sinks or swims based on the qb. Thus Ds have learned to key on him more than a typical O. I believe the O asks too much of the qb and as a result we’ve seen our starter go down now about 6 times in 2.5 years? A couple of times may be a fluke but I think we’re beyond that. I have very little faith that a qb could play out the entire year. We have not even come close to that yet

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

So is your point that Stitt should call many more rush plays in an attempt to have balanced results? Or should a coach attempt to have a run/pass balance in play selection ?

 

[whitefishbear]

How imbalanced are we? Would be interesting to see. Have you already seen the total plays divided out between runa and pass?

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Good work CMT. Now they'll come back and say "I didn't mean balanced, i Meant we need to be smash-mouth" lol

Thanks. It was interesting to see other teams threw the ball more than us. EWU threw 65 times to our 51. Understandably they were behind early but caught up early 2nd half. Still threw 14 more balls than we did. Stitt focused recruiting on receivers early on and I think that leads people to believe we are a pass heavy team but we really arent. We are about as balanced as possible.

Nice little selective stat inclusion for weak-assed teams who have no ability to run the football, and thus will never win a national championship. And save your "EWU won a NC" excuse. They had Taiwan Jones that season, who skewered us for 200+ rushing yards and was a 4th round draft pick by the NFL as a RB.

Why don't you show us the run/pass ratio of Alabama or North Dakota State?

 

[kemajic]

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

So is your point that Stitt should call many more rush plays in an attempt to have balanced results? Or should a coach attempt to have a run/pass balance in play selection ?

No recommendation; it is what it is. We are not good enough at running the ball to change the balance and have a chance to win. Just countering the BS argument that we have a balanced attack. We are a passing team and our offense seems to be tough on QBs.

 

[whitefishbear]

Here is what I found on ESPN. Pass-Run: 48-41 wsu, 38-39 und, 35-39 isu, 38-48 psu, 51-45 ewu, 35-34 Savannah, 31-33 UW, 41-35 Valpo. For totals of- 317-314. Pretty balanced.

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

You are completely missing the point. Whitefishbear stated that our qbs are injured because we throw too many times per game, 50+ per him, and actually stated it was a fact. Turns out we are balanced in passing vs rushing attempts. Just about as balanced as possible

I'm not missing the point at all; trying to bring better facts to the point. Futile rushing attempts do not dictate defensive scheme. Impactful rushing does. If you can't hurt the defense with your rushing game, they can play the pass more and come after the QB more. Which they do to us. We can hurt teams with our passing game, not our rushing game, and you get after teams like that by putting pressure on the QB. Not so much if you have a dangerous rushing game.

It is obvious that you did play the game!

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

So is your point that Stitt should call many more rush plays in an attempt to have balanced results? Or should a coach attempt to have a run/pass balance in play selection ?

No recommendation; it is what it is. We are not good enough at running the ball to change the balance and have a chance to win. Just countering the BS argument that we have a balanced attack. We are a passing team and our offense seems to be tough on QBs.

I think they run well enough. My issue is the lack of formations, which I think is the biggest issue with Stitt's offense. Just like people want a defense to give a QB different looks, how about giving the defense some different looks.

 

[whitefishbear]

I agree with micky mantle on this. Simply counting the number of plays and calling it balanced does not show the full picture. Hell, many of those plays go into the books as runs but were called passing plays because the qb scrambled. And aren’t sacks counted as runs? While the rbs and wrs get subbed, the qb is in on all 80 plays. This offense sinks or swims based on the qb. Thus Ds have learned to key on him more than a typical O. I believe the O asks too much of the qb and as a result we’ve seen our starter go down now about 6 times in 2.5 years? A couple of times may be a fluke but I think we’re beyond that. I have very little faith that a qb could play out the entire year. We have not even come close to that yet

Your post is 100% accurate. It is comical how posters try to spin what should be obvious to anyone......that when teams do not have to account for a running game, they can tee-off on sacking the QB, which obviously significantly increases his chances of injury.

 

[whitefishbear]

Balance is determined by impact, not attempts.

Opponent/Passing Yards/Rushing Yards

EWU/358/180
PSU/284/170
ISU/360/159
UND/442/162
WSU/368/108
Total/1839/779
Ave./368/156

Pretty much not balanced.

So is your point that Stitt should call many more rush plays in an attempt to have balanced results? Or should a coach attempt to have a run/pass balance in play selection ?

No recommendation; it is what it is. We are not good enough at running the ball to change the balance and have a chance to win. Just countering the BS argument that we have a balanced attack. We are a passing team and our offense seems to be tough on QBs.

I think they run well enough. My issue is the lack of formations, which I think is the biggest issue with Stitt's offense. Just like people want a defense to give a QB different looks, how about giving the defense some different looks.

Don't you understand that every play Stitt runs is a trick play, and thus as unpredictable as hell for a defense? :clap: