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Fire Gregorak

Like the cogent comment by the color man on the ESPN said about QB Ross's continual escape route up the middle and lack of defensive adjustments by the Griz coaching staff....
"Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it"
 
I am just an armchair QB, haven't played the game since junior high.

Despite my lack of football player/coaching pedigree, I do know this: if your D gives up 42 points in a game, more often than not, your team will lose !!!

While I think Gregorak should be retained as DC and that he has a lot of potential, he and his coaches plus MD need to do a thorough review soon on how to improve the D, to include fundamentals like tackling. Our D this year was inconsistent at best.
 
I don't think the Griz have fired a coach for reasons related to onfield performance for at least 28 years. I know coaches who quit and coaches who found better paying jobs, but actually fired? Even Ron Richards stayed on payroll after losing the OC job two weeks into the season.
Fired? That doesn't make any sense. What kind of DC would step into that job knowing the head coach might be gone in a year?
The only way a DC would walk into that situation is if he was a candidate for the head coaching job, or if he thought he would move on to a new team with the current head coach. The latter isn't happening. I can think of only one other DC who would come in as a possible head coaching candidate-- and no, that coach isn't Ty.
 
PlayerRep said:
GrizzleMoose said:
PlayerRep said:
GrizzleMoose said:
Obviously it is the player who is responsible for making tackles. However, PR, it is very clear when the defense as a whole struggles with making tackles, breaking down, over pursuing, and over all poor pass coverage technique ( ie. swiveling your hips, positioning, and turning to face the ball) that fundamentals are lacking. I don't care if you are playing pop warner or in the nfl, if you don't focus on fundamentals and technique, you won't be successful. This whole blame game that Division I players should already know how to tackle, therefore we shouldn't have to work on it is a bunch of bs. Fundamental are the name of the game at all levels. Without them, you will have an average team at best. I coach different levels of youth basketball, baseball, and football. Yo can never underestimate fundamentals. When I have a player make a mistake or are fundamentally weak, I don't blame the player, I blame myself, the coach. And by the way PR, I have played the game. Players are going to make mistakes, it is part of the game. It is the coaches job to teach that player proper technique and skills to make that player better and to limit the mistakes. I am guessing that you are ( were) one of those athletes that felt you didn't need to work on fundamentals and already "knew" it alll. It is pretty easy to spot a team that is fundamentally weak, that is.l a coaching issue.

I'm all for fundamentals and know they are important, but swiveling hips has nothing to do with tackling. Sorry, I don't believe you could have played the game at any decent level, or on defense, with the comments you just made. UM has tackled poorly at times, and quite well at times. That is not an indication of poor coaching of tackling.

PR. Please note that my statement about swiveling of the hips is in regards to proper pass coverage technique and had nothing to do with tackling. If you are unaware that swiveling of the hips is a "fundamental" in pass protection then I question your claim to playing at a " decent level". Please read the entire response before responding with your drivel. Carry on.

Got it. Yes, related to coverage. Now, can you admit that what you posted about tackling is wrong? Also, swiveling hips is not a major component of college secondary play. Doesn't surprise me that you don't know that.

Bwaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Copper Griz said:
I never played the game at a "high level". Watched a lot of football and I remember watching the Seahawks practice in Cheney one year. Granted, it was summer prep for preseason, but they did some crazy drills. They had receivers actually catching from a machine that slung ball after ball at them. Receivers know how to catch, why would they do that? They had DB's running drill after drill on technique and pass coverage? Why would they do that? They are in the NFL. They should know technique for the love of God? My sarcastic and smart ass point is this. TG is ultimately responsible for the performance of the players on the field, not just schemes. The defense was exposed against good teams - period. Although it is a tough pill to swallow, the defense just was not that good. Not all TG's fault, but they better get busy recruiting and it would probably be a good idea to practice some tackling. We had three very talented linebackers this year and at least one of them had terrible technique (unless head down diving and whiffing is considered good technique). To say practicing fundamentals in college is not important or the coaches responsibility is ridiculous. I sure as hell hope the offensive line coaches don't have this philosophy of "they should already know this since they are playing for a D1 program."

This is exactly what I am trying to get PR to understand. Good post Copper. I think PR has his head so far up the coaching staff's ass to offer any sort of criticism in fear that he may not be able to attend anymore team lunches. This whole idea that they should already know how to do things fundamentally correct so the coaches should not work on it is absolutely ridiculous. Fundamentals are taught and practiced at all levels and should be. Maybe Gregorak has the same philosophy as PR and that is why the d had so many issues the last two years.
 
Copper Griz said:
I never played the game at a "high level". Watched a lot of football and I remember watching the Seahawks practice in Cheney one year. Granted, it was summer prep for preseason, but they did some crazy drills. They had receivers actually catching from a machine that slung ball after ball at them. Receivers know how to catch, why would they do that? They had DB's running drill after drill on technique and pass coverage? Why would they do that? They are in the NFL. They should know technique for the love of God? My sarcastic and smart ass point is this. TG is ultimately responsible for the performance of the players on the field, not just schemes. The defense was exposed against good teams - period. Although it is a tough pill to swallow, the defense just was not that good. Not all TG's fault, but they better get busy recruiting and it would probably be a good idea to practice some tackling. We had three very talented linebackers this year and at least one of them had terrible technique (unless head down diving and whiffing is considered good technique). To say practicing fundamentals in college is not important or the coaches responsibility is ridiculous. I sure as hell hope the offensive line coaches don't have this philosophy of "they should already know this since they are playing for a D1 program."

Which backer had terrible tackling technique?
 
I am not calling for anyone being fired. Funny thing, we did have a spy on the quarterback on occasion. We did the same thing against MSU. We used Biennaman as a spy. Great plan. Use your 290 pound DT as a spy. Genius.
 
PlayerRep said:
Grizo406 said:
Didn't think I'd miss Colt Anderson as much as I do.

But, after today's game, I REALLY miss #19!

Speaking of 19, did you know Hermanson had 19 tackles today?
Did you know the CC QB ran for 123 yards?

Of more concern were the tackles not made.
 
What does "playing at a high level" exactly mean? For me it means playing in the NFL and I don't think any posters on here have played at that level. I played for a very good high school football coach that has won 4 state titles and was a runner-up 3 times. Every practice from the first of the season to the last, we would be drilled on proper blocking and tackling fundamentals. We thought it was redundant as players, but looking back we never gave up any big plays on defense and on offense we very seldom had big yard loss plays. We won a lot of games, because we had more talent, but in the playoffs our fundamentals and careful execution is what allowed us to beat as talented or more talented teams.

I don't know whether TG should be fired or not (not there every day and seeing what is being done), but it is clear there is some lack of tackling fundamentals being taught or emphasized. And it really showed in the CC game.
 
PlayerRep said:
Make Gregorak the head coach next year.

That would be the worst hire in the HISTORY OF UM! Great guy, but with all the returning talent he had on D he couldn't do crap with it
 
Grizbacker1 said:
PlayerRep said:
Make Gregorak the head coach next year.

That would be the worst hire in the HISTORY OF UM! Great guy, but with all the returning talent he had on D he couldn't do crap with it

You and I obviously don't agree. Don't think you follow football close enough to know either.
 
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
Grizo406 said:
Didn't think I'd miss Colt Anderson as much as I do.

But, after today's game, I REALLY miss #19!

Speaking of 19, did you know Hermanson had 19 tackles today?
Did you know the CC QB ran for 123 yards?

Of more concern were the tackles not made.

Rarely will you win a game where your safety has to make 19 tackles. :| :|
 
PlayerRep said:
Grizbacker1 said:
PlayerRep said:
Make Gregorak the head coach next year.

That would be the worst hire in the HISTORY OF UM! Great guy, but with all the returning talent he had on D he couldn't do crap with it

You and I obviously don't agree. Don't think you follow football close enough to know either.

Breske is shaking his head on the poor defensive performance that the Griz had this year. As to your little condescending comment about "following football close enough" I will simply say I am not a name dropper wanna be insider like you are. You are showing a lot of signs that you took too many shots to the head at Dartmouth. See a Dr.
 
PlayerRep said:
Grizbacker1 said:
PlayerRep said:
Make Gregorak the head coach next year.

That would be the worst hire in the HISTORY OF UM! Great guy, but with all the returning talent he had on D he couldn't do crap with it

You and I obviously don't agree. Don't think you follow football close enough to know either.

Says the guy who thinks there is a conference called the Pac-10......


:lol:
 
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