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Fire Baer

PAGriz said:
Go back and watch the games. Vika played a lot in 2 and half games filling in for a player that was being disciplined. He played very little besides that.
Ahead of Olson; why? Olson's stats were racked up by his dominant play in ST, not LB.
 
Grisly Fan said:
Missoula223 said:
Grisly Fan said:
Missoula223 said:
What should the coaches do differently?
Not a clue but certainly something different because whatever they are doing isn't working. Other teams, even clearly less talented teams, manage to be ready to go while the Griz appear to still be sleeping and they fall behind. Somehow (the three lost games excepted) they wake up and start playing. You can blame the players if you wish but it is a team problem and the coach(es) own the team's performance.

PR is right. You are clueless as to what it takes to play and coach a football team. In Hauck's 2nd year they are 9-3 with a home playoff game. You couldn't imagine what goes into getting a team to simply win 9 games. How many hours a week do you work? 40/50? Coaches put in 90+ easily to win 9 games and still get bitched at by dumbass fans like you. Upsets happen every week at every level. No coach can avoid it.
OK, here's a clue. Clearly last year the Griz didn't finish games. They lost several winnable games in the 4th quarter. Something had to be done and it was. Incredible emphasis was placed on finishing -- and it has seemed to pay off -- however maybe so much emphasis that the team lacks focus on starting? It isn't a zero sum game. Good teams can finish. Great teams start AND finish. Harken back to the DD days. In his junior and senior years he played very little in many 4th (and several games played only about half of the 3rd) quarters because the Griz started and continued to play so well. They really didn't have to worry about finishing all that great. A lot of 2's and 3's got experience that paid off in subsequent years.


Funny that you expect me to know what the coaches need to differently when there is no possible way for me to know what goes on in practice or in the training sessions. I find it amusing that you seem to believe absolutely nothing can be done to change the poor early game performance. Hopefully you don't coach the game.

And, yeah, I'm the "dumbass" but you are the one who has to resort to name calling.

That doesn't answer my question. I asked what they needed to change and you said not a clue. So you addressing the difference between good and great teams means nothing because you offer no solutions.

"there is no possible way for me to know what goes on in practice or in the training sessions." This is my exact point. You talk shit because the slow starts are due to a lack of "coaching," but you just said you have no idea what the real problems are. You talk shit without a clue of what's going on in the game, in meetings, in practice, in anything. That's ignorance.

Where did I say there's nothing that can be done about poor early game performance?
I coached college for 15 years, and will likely coach high school next year. Surprisingly I never got fired, but fair weather fans like you made it less difficult to get out of the profession.

Try to address specific plays and games. What plays did Idaho State hit us on? What fronts were we in? What were we seeing from an offensive standpoint that we had to adjust to?

You don't know the game, but talk negatively when things aren't perfect, and have no idea as to why.
 
Grisly Fan said:
Missoula223 said:
Grisly Fan said:
Missoula223 said:
What should the coaches do differently?
Not a clue but certainly something different because whatever they are doing isn't working. Other teams, even clearly less talented teams, manage to be ready to go while the Griz appear to still be sleeping and they fall behind. Somehow (the three lost games excepted) they wake up and start playing. You can blame the players if you wish but it is a team problem and the coach(es) own the team's performance.

PR is right. You are clueless as to what it takes to play and coach a football team. In Hauck's 2nd year they are 9-3 with a home playoff game. You couldn't imagine what goes into getting a team to simply win 9 games. How many hours a week do you work? 40/50? Coaches put in 90+ easily to win 9 games and still get bitched at by dumbass fans like you. Upsets happen every week at every level. No coach can avoid it.
OK, here's a clue. Clearly last year the Griz didn't finish games. They lost several winnable games in the 4th quarter. Something had to be done and it was. Incredible emphasis was placed on finishing -- and it has seemed to pay off -- however maybe so much emphasis that the team lacks focus on starting? It isn't a zero sum game. Good teams can finish. Great teams start AND finish. Harken back to the DD days. In his junior and senior years he played very little in many 4th (and several games played only about half of the 3rd) quarters because the Griz started and continued to play so well. They really didn't have to worry about finishing all that great. A lot of 2's and 3's got experience that paid off in subsequent years.


Funny that you expect me to know what the coaches need to differently when there is no possible way for me to know what goes on in practice or in the training sessions. I find it amusing that you seem to believe absolutely nothing can be done to change the poor early game performance. Hopefully you don't coach the game.

And, yeah, I'm the "dumbass" but you are the one who has to resort to name calling.

Everyone believes that UM should be better at starting more games faster. My gripe is with posters who admit that they don't have a clue, blaming the slow starts on coaching without offering any solutions and, again, with admitting that they have no clue what's going on. Why do those posters feel it's necessary to blame the coaches order to have a discussion or provide their views. I assume 223's view is similar.

Also, UM didn't finish games last year because they didn't have the depth or talent. This year, they do. So, things are better.
 
PlayerRep said:
Grisly Fan said:
Missoula223 said:
Grisly Fan said:
Not a clue but certainly something different because whatever they are doing isn't working. Other teams, even clearly less talented teams, manage to be ready to go while the Griz appear to still be sleeping and they fall behind. Somehow (the three lost games excepted) they wake up and start playing. You can blame the players if you wish but it is a team problem and the coach(es) own the team's performance.

PR is right. You are clueless as to what it takes to play and coach a football team. In Hauck's 2nd year they are 9-3 with a home playoff game. You couldn't imagine what goes into getting a team to simply win 9 games. How many hours a week do you work? 40/50? Coaches put in 90+ easily to win 9 games and still get bitched at by dumbass fans like you. Upsets happen every week at every level. No coach can avoid it.
OK, here's a clue. Clearly last year the Griz didn't finish games. They lost several winnable games in the 4th quarter. Something had to be done and it was. Incredible emphasis was placed on finishing -- and it has seemed to pay off -- however maybe so much emphasis that the team lacks focus on starting? It isn't a zero sum game. Good teams can finish. Great teams start AND finish. Harken back to the DD days. In his junior and senior years he played very little in many 4th (and several games played only about half of the 3rd) quarters because the Griz started and continued to play so well. They really didn't have to worry about finishing all that great. A lot of 2's and 3's got experience that paid off in subsequent years.


Funny that you expect me to know what the coaches need to differently when there is no possible way for me to know what goes on in practice or in the training sessions. I find it amusing that you seem to believe absolutely nothing can be done to change the poor early game performance. Hopefully you don't coach the game.

And, yeah, I'm the "dumbass" but you are the one who has to resort to name calling.

Everyone believes that UM should be better at starting more games faster. My gripe is with posters who admit that they don't have a clue, blaming the slow starts on coaching without offering any solutions and, again, with admitting that they have no clue what's going on. Why do those posters feel it's necessary to blame the coaches order to have a discussion or provide their views. I assume 223's view is similar.

Also, UM didn't finish games last year because they didn't have the depth or talent. This year, they do. So, things are better.

Agreed. Appreciate the big picture. If there are faults with coaching, they will either deal with it, or be fired. But griping about it, when you have no idea what is going on, does nobody any good.

There are always things that can be better, but when a team exceeds expectations, which this team has, wouldn't good coaching be apart of that?
 
Sorry, I haven’t been keeping up and I seen y’all were 10 pages in and I was wondering if we decided to fire Baer yet or are we still discussing it?
 
alabamagrizzly said:
Sorry, I haven’t been keeping up and I seen y’all were 10 pages in and I was wondering if we decided to fire Baer yet or are we still discussing it?

Most of us have moved on to the weather. Which, if you haven't heard, could get as low as 41 degrees maximal temperature.
 
MontanaJack2006 said:
alabamagrizzly said:
Sorry, I haven’t been keeping up and I seen y’all were 10 pages in and I was wondering if we decided to fire Baer yet or are we still discussing it?

Most of us have moved on to the weather. Which, if you haven't heard, could get as low as 41 degrees maximal temperature.

Ya but that’s a northern states 41. That’s waaaaaaay colder then a southern 41. (Actually it’s the opposite but who really cares.)
 
kemajic said:
PAGriz said:
Go back and watch the games. Vika played a lot in 2 and half games filling in for a player that was being disciplined. He played very little besides that.
Ahead of Olson; why? Olson's stats were racked up by his dominant play in ST, not LB.

Thats demonstrably false. He played in a lot of different down and distance situations but was a regular on the field on 3rd downs.
 
Hello, I am new to this thread, and I have a question: So is Baer fired or not?

One more question if I may: Why is "down and distance" so damn hard for Peter Christian?

Thank you. I'll hang up and listen.
 
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