Fire Baer

[argh!]

in 2017 stitt had banks, buss, and strahm as starting linebackers. is olsen better than them now? sure. was he as a sophomore? i'm not so sure. until buss got hurt, he was said to be nfl-bound. banks had tons of tackles. strahm, while i personally didn't like some of his antics, was also considered quite good. so stop with the bs about 'stitt not realizing what he had'. you don't have enough evidence for that, because you'd have to compare the sophomore olsen to those others, who were pretty darn good.

Strahm was overrated, did not have Olson's speed and was totally exposed by a weak MSU team. Even Vika was ahead of Olson on the depth chart. There is plenty of evidence; do you want to compare Vika to Olson today? Olson was the best LB in UM history as soon as he took the field as a junior, so he could not compete as a soph? I played the position and watch the position every game. What is it that makes you so expert, other than your defensive bias for Stitt/Semore?

gawd you are a clown. i'm just giving some possible reasons why others played over olsen. if you remember, there were a lot of guys given the boot by stitt, but olsen obviously wasn't. what is true is that a lot of teams passed on him out of high school, so i guess that automatically means all those other coaches were idiots, as per your logic. what were his measurables in 2017? did he gain weight/strength later? i don't know. do you? also, are you saying buss, banks, and strahm were bad? greenie frequently defended strahm, maybe ask him?

I have never dissed Stitt for not starting Olson ahead of those 3 backers. All 3 were very good.

yes, i know you didn't, and that you previously commented that the three were very good. every now and again you show that you know a bit about the game, as it is currently played. my comment was aimed at kem.

 

[Washgrizfan1]

My concern with this thread is why is anyone feeling the need to post one negative thing about Vika. He is literally the most respected, liked and looked up to Grizzly in the program right now. His willingness to do anything the coaching staff has asked of him is one of the biggest reasons why the Griz have the type of team chemistry and bond they have right now. Everybody sees and respects what Vika and, I'll add, Coby Eaton have done for this program. Vika literally is revered inside that lockerroom, smh.

Did anyone post anything negative about Vika?

 

[kemajic]

My concern with this thread is why is anyone feeling the need to post one negative thing about Vika. He is literally the most respected, liked and looked up to Grizzly in the program right now. His willingness to do anything the coaching staff has asked of him is one of the biggest reasons why the Griz have the type of team chemistry and bond they have right now. Everybody sees and respects what Vika and, I'll add, Coby Eaton have done for this program. Vika literally is revered inside that lockerroom, smh.

Did anyone post anything negative about Vika?

The only thing posted was that Vika was not a good a LB as Olson. My guess is Vika is fine with that analysis.

 

[argh!]

My concern with this thread is why is anyone feeling the need to post one negative thing about Vika. He is literally the most respected, liked and looked up to Grizzly in the program right now. His willingness to do anything the coaching staff has asked of him is one of the biggest reasons why the Griz have the type of team chemistry and bond they have right now. Everybody sees and respects what Vika and, I'll add, Coby Eaton have done for this program. Vika literally is revered inside that lockerroom, smh.

Did anyone post anything negative about Vika?

The only thing posted was that Vika was not a good a LB as Olson. My guess is Vika is fine with that analysis.

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

 

[kemajic]

My concern with this thread is why is anyone feeling the need to post one negative thing about Vika. He is literally the most respected, liked and looked up to Grizzly in the program right now. His willingness to do anything the coaching staff has asked of him is one of the biggest reasons why the Griz have the type of team chemistry and bond they have right now. Everybody sees and respects what Vika and, I'll add, Coby Eaton have done for this program. Vika literally is revered inside that lockerroom, smh.

Did anyone post anything negative about Vika?

The only thing posted was that Vika was not as good a LB as Olson. My guess is Vika is fine with that analysis.

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

 

[argh!]

Did anyone post anything negative about Vika?

The only thing posted was that Vika was not as good a LB as Olson. My guess is Vika is fine with that analysis.

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

oh gawd, whining 'pc police' when somebody interprets a comment by you as seeming condescending towards a player. it is obviously long past time to change the batter.

 

[PlayerRep]

Too many posters on this board confuse knowledge with condensation and confidence with arrogance.

And it's a message board, so within reason, everyone gets to say what they want.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Did anyone post anything negative about Vika?

The only thing posted was that Vika was not as good a LB as Olson. My guess is Vika is fine with that analysis.

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

I also know what hindsight is. Were you braying about Olson during his sophomore year about how he should be starting? Because every armchair QB out there can say NOW how he should have been, based on his last two years. But projecting 2018-19 Olson onto 2016-2017 is a fool’s errand....

I’m guessing you were also on here last year complaining about how little Jace Lewis was used in the previous two years? Because after his breakout this year, it’s obvious he must have been underutilized last year and the year before...

 

[EverettGriz]

Good grief already.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Is anyone else getting Google ads in the actual body of posts? I just stared at an ad for an HMO for about 5 minutes wondering what I was missing because it made it look like EG posted it.

 

[PlayerRep]

The only thing posted was that Vika was not as good a LB as Olson. My guess is Vika is fine with that analysis.

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

I also know what hindsight is. Were you braying about Olson during his sophomore year about how he should be starting? Because every armchair QB out there can say NOW how he should have been, based on his last two years. But projecting 2018-19 Olson onto 2016-2017 is a fool’s errand....

I’m guessing you were also on here last year complaining about how little Jace Lewis was used in the previous two years? Because after his breakout this year, it’s obvious he must have been underutilized last year and the year before...

Do you not wonder why Olson was not more known on the Griz D when he was a sophomore? I can't imagine that he went from being a 3d stringer to almost an all-American in just one off-season. He did have some stats as a sophomore, I see to recall.

 

[SoldierGriz]

The only thing posted was that Vika was not as good a LB as Olson. My guess is Vika is fine with that analysis.

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

I also know what hindsight is. Were you braying about Olson during his sophomore year about how he should be starting? Because every armchair QB out there can say NOW how he should have been, based on his last two years. But projecting 2018-19 Olson onto 2016-2017 is a fool’s errand....

I’m guessing you were also on here last year complaining about how little Jace Lewis was used in the previous two years? Because after his breakout this year, it’s obvious he must have been underutilized last year and the year before...

So, it's not possible Kem paid attention? Perhaps he observed Olson's wight room work and weight gains. Perhaps he watched Spring ball and scrimmages. Perhaps he talked to parents and other boosters who pay attention. Perhaps DO's potential was clear and obvious to those who know anything about the game.

These things certainly allow Kem to know things about how DO would play even before taking a single snap, correct? Isn't that evidence or even proof?

 

[Cuervohola]

Is anyone else getting Google ads in the actual body of posts? I just stared at an ad for an HMO for about 5 minutes wondering what I was missing because it made it look like EG posted it.

No. Block ads... Privacy Badger.

All I see here is Backyard Taphouse, which I don't mind.

 

[argh!]

Too many posters on this board confuse knowledge with condensation and confidence with arrogance.

And it's a message board, so within reason, everyone gets to say what they want.

i'm really not sure too many on egriz confuse condensation with anything but what it is, water droplets forming on a cold surface when the air is humid and comes in contact with it.

too many do, however, consider their own opinion to be fact, and arrogantly denigrate those who have a different opinion, without having anything to back up what they say.

 

[argh!]

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

I also know what hindsight is. Were you braying about Olson during his sophomore year about how he should be starting? Because every armchair QB out there can say NOW how he should have been, based on his last two years. But projecting 2018-19 Olson onto 2016-2017 is a fool’s errand....

I’m guessing you were also on here last year complaining about how little Jace Lewis was used in the previous two years? Because after his breakout this year, it’s obvious he must have been underutilized last year and the year before...

So, it's not possible Kem paid attention? Perhaps he observed Olson's wight room work and weight gains. Perhaps he watched Spring ball and scrimmages. Perhaps he talked to parents and other boosters who pay attention. Perhaps DO's potential was clear and obvious to those who know anything about the game.

These things certainly allow Kem to know things about how DO would play even before taking a single snap, correct? Isn't that evidence or even proof?

but according to his posts here, he's personally done none of that, or at least not said so. moreover, the weight gain was mainly between the year he played less, and when he became a starter. oh, and how often has someone done well in spring ball, but not so much during actual games?

 

[SoldierGriz]

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

I also know what hindsight is. Were you braying about Olson during his sophomore year about how he should be starting? Because every armchair QB out there can say NOW how he should have been, based on his last two years. But projecting 2018-19 Olson onto 2016-2017 is a fool’s errand....

I’m guessing you were also on here last year complaining about how little Jace Lewis was used in the previous two years? Because after his breakout this year, it’s obvious he must have been underutilized last year and the year before...

So, it's not possible Kem paid attention? Perhaps he observed Olson's wight room work and weight gains. Perhaps he watched Spring ball and scrimmages. Perhaps he talked to parents and other boosters who pay attention. Perhaps DO's potential was clear and obvious to those who know anything about the game.

These things certainly allow Kem to know things about how DO would play even before taking a single snap, correct? Isn't that evidence or even proof?

but according to his posts here, he's personally done none of that, or at least not said so. moreover, the weight gain was mainly between the year he played less, and when he became a starter. oh, and how often has someone done well in spring ball, but not so much during actual games?

Don't know. Seems some just have a knack for projecting things like improvement before a single snap is taken. I assume Kem has a knack for it. I'm told it is possible by paying attention, watching things, and talking to people...mostly important people like parents and boosters. Those people have evidence and proof.

 

[PlayerRep]

Didn't Kem play linebacker for the Griz?

How many of you other experts played linebacker for the Griz or follow Griz football like Kem does?

 

[Grisly Fan]

Beyond any shadow of any doubt the slow starts to the first quarter of nearly every game doomed the Griz. You knew it would catch up to them eventually. They got behind to a team playing with a whole lot more emotion and then started to press. The perfect formula for disaster. I cannot understand why the Griz have such bad starts to games. THAT is a coaching problem.

 

[PlayerRep]

Beyond any shadow of any doubt the slow starts to the first quarter of nearly every game doomed the Griz. You knew it would catch up to them eventually. They got behind to a team playing with a whole lot more emotion and then started to press. The perfect formula for disaster. I cannot understand why the Griz have such bad starts to games. THAT is a coaching problem.

That is a player execution problem. You don't have a clue and obviously never played the game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

no, you wrote, in what comes off as condescending, "do you want me to compare olson to vika today?". spin it how you want, but that sounds like an unnecessary comment to me.

Man, is that ever a stretch. The head of the PC police. Many of the comments in this thread are unnecessary but for the defensive Semore supporters. Anyone that knows anything about football and LB play knows that Olson was underutilized until Hauck/Baer came to town.

I also know what hindsight is. Were you braying about Olson during his sophomore year about how he should be starting? Because every armchair QB out there can say NOW how he should have been, based on his last two years. But projecting 2018-19 Olson onto 2016-2017 is a fool’s errand....

I’m guessing you were also on here last year complaining about how little Jace Lewis was used in the previous two years? Because after his breakout this year, it’s obvious he must have been underutilized last year and the year before...

So, it's not possible Kem paid attention? Perhaps he observed Olson's wight room work and weight gains. Perhaps he watched Spring ball and scrimmages. Perhaps he talked to parents and other boosters who pay attention. Perhaps DO's potential was clear and obvious to those who know anything about the game.

These things certainly allow Kem to know things about how DO would play even before taking a single snap, correct? Isn't that evidence or even proof?

ISWYDT :lol: