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Feds to Begin Investigation

mondayamqb said:
Curious. Did the DOJ read the internal investigative reports authored by the City Police and the University? If so, what in those reports produced a red flag or provided insufficient or troublesome information that would require further independent investigation by DOJ? Of the recommended changes in procedures,what did the DOJ find inadequate? It seems to me that all agencies acted appropriately in reviewing their actions, admitted mistakes, and have set new policies which provide resources for immediate confidential help and protection for future rape or assault victims, improved communication and information sharing among all agencies, and require mandatory rape awareness training for all students as a part of the registration process. So, why is the DOJ here? Did some staffer have time on his/her hands and looked at figures from every town in the good old US of A and decide we've got a problem in Missoula that we'd better take a look at. I don't think so. Someone (no conspiracy theories, please) requested this investigation. I think the DOJ should be asked the questions behind the question. Who made the request. What specific fault (s)did they find that required their additional attention? Will it be as open and transparent as the local reports have been and why did the Missoulian know about the investigation before the City, County, and University received letters. This post is limited to the who and why of the DOJ's intrusion. Previous discussion about the various individuals should not be rehashed. Who will be strong enough to ask these questions: CNN, Fox, Missoulian, KUFM, Baucus, Tester, Rehberg--and will DOJ give a straight answer or will they do the old dippy doo? I think we deserve to know.


DOJ doesn't have to or won't answer questions. I'm guessing you are questioning Fed overreach which is what they do these days. And no it's not partisan, Dubya's crowd did the same with post 9/11 security measures.

The erosion of individual rights continues unabated while we allow the Federal Government to get away with it. Pretty sad really and I'm not a tea party guy, my hero is Nat Hentoff, the last great free speech advocate and he certainly wasn't a Republican. Politics has sadly infiltrated the Fed Gov including the DOJ. Our halcyon days as a nation are numbered if we continue to allow this. Just look at medical weed, Holder said it's ok then BAM, folks are going to prison. Most likely because of polls that would help the incumbent. A sad state of affairs if you ask me.
 
Grizinmyyard said:
Umm...

I have been reading all of the posts from experts on this forum since the announced investigation news conference.

First of all, I must say Fred Van Valkenberg looked to be a little flushed in a red faced sort of way in the Missoulian. Kinda looked like he was on trial, or is that just my take?

He sure sounded like a belligerent defendant to me. Just my take again.

I am sure that the DOJ had their reasons for this investigation. Maybe the fact that the women who reported sexual assaults through University channels and were blown off, might have something to do with it? Maybe the fact that Muir was quoted saying that 80% of reported sexual assaults were false reports might have something to do with it?

And finally, why would anyone believe that just because all agencies involved said that they had corrected their problems would anybody believe them? I guess that the feds didn't.

All I want, is to see all of the facts out in the open. You can disagree, but in my opinion I don't think we have seen much of that yet.

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if you already have not seen this:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/crime/2012/05/03/pkg-wian-feds-investigate-montana-college-rapes.cnn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Aside from the circumstances, I think the whole thing (investigation) is rather funny. her we have a group of people who support a political ideology that gives power to the Federal Government, who suddenly are outraged when that power is turned towards them.....

If I were Fred, I would certainly be wondering about the merits of my prepared statement. It was a little in your face. I just don't think its a good idea to PO the feds....
 
Playaa-RaPE isnt afraid of the Feds. I bet you $1000 he is a perfect gentleman to them.......before he tries a reach around without kissing them first.

You guys are idiots if you dont believe me.


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ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Playaa-RaPE isnt afraid of the Feds. I bet you $1000 he is a perfect gentleman to them.......before he tries a reach around without kissing them first.

You guys are idiots if you dont believe me.


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Alphie, can we meet for a beer at a quiet tavern somewhere? I'd love to push in your stool.
 
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