FCS will remain, well, FCS

[PlayerRep]

I would change the rule and allow teams to play DIII football (no scholarship) and DI basketball, and set a minimum for scholarships or aid equivalent.

I don't think there will be any changes to football classification until the NCAA basketball tournament payouts are changed. The large conferences have picked the low hanging fruit with TV contracts, now they will want to the basketball money to drive out the low budget schools, or schools that don't make the large investment in all sports programs.

I wonder how many non-scholarship FCS programs would go for that? A few I imagine. Do non scholarship FCS schools have to sweat Title IX at all?

Yes, non-schollie schools have to deal with Title IX. They look at the various factors, including participants and resources allocated.

 

[Cats2506]

I would change the rule and allow teams to play DIII football (no scholarship) and DI basketball, and set a minimum for scholarships or aid equivalent.

I don't think there will be any changes to football classification until the NCAA basketball tournament payouts are changed. The large conferences have picked the low hanging fruit with TV contracts, now they will want to the basketball money to drive out the low budget schools, or schools that don't make the large investment in all sports programs.

I wonder how many non-scholarship FCS programs would go for that? A few I imagine. Do non scholarship FCS schools have to sweat Title IX at all?

Yes, scholarships are only a small part of title IX, its all about equity of opportunity.

also "non-scholarship" is a bit of a misnomer, most of these teams do in fact have many players on scholarship and are still limited by the NCAA division limits (except the service academies) but their scholarships are not based on athletics, they are based on academics and "needs". Most of these schools have higher academic standards that must be met and of course require the players families to submit quite a bit of financial data to qualify for the needs based scholarships. The reason they are playing FCS is that they are exceeding the NCAA scholarship limits of DII.

 

[kemajic]

The reason they are playing FCS is that they are exceeding the NCAA scholarship limits of DII.

The reason most (e.g., Pioneer Conf.) is because they want to play D1 Bball and to do so they must play D1 footbal.

 

[Cats2506]

The reason they are playing FCS is that they are exceeding the NCAA scholarship limits of DII.

The reason most (e.g., Pioneer Conf.) is because they want to play D1 Bball and to do so they must play D1 footbal.

It doesn't happen often but you have a valid point, but most pioneer conf teams do have too many scholarship players to qualify for DII

 

[Spanky]

All of the conversation regarding moving up, and now, some to move down is moot. With our current administration, there isn't any interest in progress..only staying the same. Fullerton ( Mr. Bobcat ) seems to have considerable influence over Engstrom which isn't a suprise as Engstrom's interest is only keeping his job. Sadly, this is a time of no progress for UM, and there isn't any sign that it won't continue as Engstrom has no supervision from the Board of Regents or the Governor.

 

[PlayerRep]

I would change the rule and allow teams to play DIII football (no scholarship) and DI basketball, and set a minimum for scholarships or aid equivalent.

I don't think there will be any changes to football classification until the NCAA basketball tournament payouts are changed. The large conferences have picked the low hanging fruit with TV contracts, now they will want to the basketball money to drive out the low budget schools, or schools that don't make the large investment in all sports programs.

I wonder how many non-scholarship FCS programs would go for that? A few I imagine. Do non scholarship FCS schools have to sweat Title IX at all?

also "non-scholarship" is a bit of a misnomer, most of these teams do in fact have many players on scholarship and are still limited by the NCAA division limits (except the service academies) but their scholarships are not based on athletics, they are based on academics and "needs". Most of these schools have higher academic standards that must be met and of course require the players families to submit quite a bit of financial data to qualify for the needs based scholarships. The reason they are playing FCS is that they are exceeding the NCAA scholarship limits of DII.

Nothing in the above paragraph is accurate. It's completely wrong.

 

[Cats2506]

I would change the rule and allow teams to play DIII football (no scholarship) and DI basketball, and set a minimum for scholarships or aid equivalent.

I don't think there will be any changes to football classification until the NCAA basketball tournament payouts are changed. The large conferences have picked the low hanging fruit with TV contracts, now they will want to the basketball money to drive out the low budget schools, or schools that don't make the large investment in all sports programs.

I wonder how many non-scholarship FCS programs would go for that? A few I imagine. Do non scholarship FCS schools have to sweat Title IX at all?

also "non-scholarship" is a bit of a misnomer, most of these teams do in fact have many players on scholarship and are still limited by the NCAA division limits (except the service academies) but their scholarships are not based on athletics, they are based on academics and "needs". Most of these schools have higher academic standards that must be met and of course require the players families to submit quite a bit of financial data to qualify for the needs based scholarships. The reason they are playing FCS is that they are exceeding the NCAA scholarship limits of DII.

Nothing in the above paragraph is accurate. It's completely wrong.

A couple of years ago several of us had a fairly long conversation with Coach Ash about how the "non-scholarship" leauges work. What I posted is how it works in the Pioneer League and specifically at Drake. Everything that I have said is accurate and Chief Runs to Sniff Jocks doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

[kemajic]

To answer the question, I'd fix it by eliminating it. You're either DI, or you're not.

Hard to disagree. FCS as DI is foolery. There is a far larger gap from the midpoint of FCS to the midpoint of FBS than there is from the midpoint of FCS to the midpoint of DII. It was much simpler before D1AA came along. College Division (small college - DII) and University Division (major college - DI).

Reverse the expansions of the playoffs. There are not 24 small college teams capable of winning; it only extends an already long season for underfunded programs. Cut it in half; eliminate auto-bids. Best 12 give it a go. Cannot find an example where a team not in the top 12 won a NC.

As a result, NC game mid-December.