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F-OFF Sam Herder aka, SH@tTY HERO ZERO SPORTS...

mthoopsfan said:
Sam and Rob, how about a bet over whether the selection committees D2 games? Anyone else?

Your grasp of the English language continues to amaze. What's the bet Mr. Ivy League?
 
retiredpopo said:
Mousegriz said:
That would make hoopsfan super happy if the postseason polls have Griz at 12. Big improvement from 14th or 15th last year.

we will be a lot higher than 12 post season. I meant I figured we might be 12 this week based on herder having us 19.

Sounds like you and hoops should get together and offer up a bet that people can understand. What's "a lot " higher than 12th?
 
Can we just outlaw betting in any thread in the football forum and create a betting room where these guys can have their pissing matches???
 
mthoopsfan said:
riverdweller said:
Good one... Bison fans have no reason to think of the griz since they last played in 2022... nice try troll.

Remember this is eGRiz.

Most Bison fans know UM has a great program, even thought the Bison have had a better team. Not as many Bison know that I represented Fargo’s main publicly traded tech company, Great Plains Software, the Founder and CEO of which was Doug Bergum, the current ND Governor. Ha. After the sale to MSFT, Bergum became hood friends with MSFT’s then CFO, a UM grad. The former MSFT guy had a fundraiser for Bergum in Seattle last week. All of
you who don’t care should put me on Foe or stop reading my posts. Ha, again.

Okay, bub. Free time is over.

Translation: I’m important. Ha. Literally nobody knows that I played a tiny role in this thing. Ha. My role was very insignificant. Ha. And it makes me sad that people don’t pay attention to me. Ha. Maybe if I make it sound important, then people will like me. Ha.
 
mthoopsfan said:
garizzalies said:
Colter and Herder are essentially clones (clowns?) with the exact same business model—to troll the biggest FCS fanbase (The Griz) for clicks.

Remember when Colter turned his bubcatz pod into a Griz fan bash fest? He tried to flip it onto The Griz and called us all “jealous losers”. He down played and excused DUIs and tried to blame Griz fans. Unbelievable. He will never live that down.

Have you ever seen the face BH makes whenever Colter gets to ask one of his horrendously dumb questions? It looks like anger, constipation, and grief all at once.

Colter is way more knowledgeable and way less biased than Herder. They are not even in the same ballpark, or on the same planet.
I hold a different opinion and I believe the coach does too and not just because of the left-handed constipation look.

Did you ever listen to the entire pod at issue?
 
Here’s what the FCS playoff selection committee told me in writing today:

"Division 2 games are not automatically removed from a team’s resume, but do become a point of evaluation when comparing teams under consideration."

Herder said this in his article last week discussing the Griz and Davis:

"Both teams have three D1 wins right now (the playoff committee does not count D2 wins).

In a 2022 article, Herder said this:

“For teams looking to to position themselves in the playoff seeds or earn an at-large bid, non-D1 wins are not included on the playoff resumes.”

How can someone who writes on FCS for a living be so off, and off on the same thing so often? Herder is a really week, doesn't have a clue, and can't be trusted.
 
retiredpopo said:
mthoopsfan said:
Sam and Rob, how about a bet over whether the selection committee considers D2 games? Anyone else?

must be lawyer speak as I don't know what you are conveying....If you are saying the D2 win will impact the Griz, the way it is written it says "may" impact the selection which is completely different than "does" impact the selection. Again not sure what you are saying, you need to dumb it down for guys like me who did not get further than the 8th grade.

The FCS selection committee considers D2 games, contrary to what Herder, Rob and a bunch of dummies have said.
 
Mousegriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
Sam and Rob, how about a bet over whether the selection committees considers D2 games? Anyone else?

Your grasp of the English language continues to amaze. What's the bet Mr. Ivy League?

My grasp of the English language is good. My proofreading isn't. Want to bet on whether the selection committee considers D2 games? I say the committee does consider them. Put up or shut up.
 
This is a repeat post, but I don't want it buried. So here it is again.

Here’s what the FCS playoff selection committee told me in writing today:

"Division 2 games are not automatically removed from a team’s resume, but do become a point of evaluation when comparing teams under consideration."

Herder said this in his article last week discussing the Griz and Davis:

"Both teams have three D1 wins right now (the playoff committee does not count D2 wins).

In a 2022 article, Herder said this:

“For teams looking to to position themselves in the playoff seeds or earn an at-large bid, non-D1 wins are not included on the playoff resumes.

I sent the ncca the 2022 Herder quote. Note how the committee's response to me specifically addressed and shot down his statement about D2's not being on playoff "resumes".

How can someone who writes on FCS for a living be so off, and off on the same thing so often? Herder is a really week, doesn't have a clue, and can't be trusted.
 
mthoopsfan said:
This is a repeat post, but I don't want it buried. So here it is again.

Here’s what the FCS playoff selection committee told me in writing today:

"Division 2 games are not automatically removed from a team’s resume, but do become a point of evaluation when comparing teams under consideration."

Herder said this in his article last week discussing the Griz and Davis:

"Both teams have three D1 wins right now (the playoff committee does not count D2 wins).

In a 2022 article, Herder said this:

“For teams looking to to position themselves in the playoff seeds or earn an at-large bid, non-D1 wins are not included on the playoff resumes.

I sent the ncca the 2022 Herder quote. Note how the committee's response to me specifically addressed and shot down his statement about D2's not being on playoff "resumes".

How can someone who writes on FCS for a living be so off, and off on the same thing so often? Herder is a really week, doesn't have a clue, and can't be trusted.

Well that is pretty interesting. I have no shame and can apologize when I’m wrong. I’m very surprised to hear this as I’ve had a few email or Twitter convos with some of the committee players over the years and it always sounded like a Non D1 game was never considered at all. Thanks for the update.
 
HookedonGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
This is a repeat post, but I don't want it buried. So here it is again.

Here’s what the FCS playoff selection committee told me in writing today:

"Division 2 games are not automatically removed from a team’s resume, but do become a point of evaluation when comparing teams under consideration."

Herder said this in his article last week discussing the Griz and Davis:

"Both teams have three D1 wins right now (the playoff committee does not count D2 wins).

In a 2022 article, Herder said this:

“For teams looking to to position themselves in the playoff seeds or earn an at-large bid, non-D1 wins are not included on the playoff resumes.

I sent the ncca the 2022 Herder quote. Note how the committee's response to me specifically addressed and shot down his statement about D2's not being on playoff "resumes".

How can someone who writes on FCS for a living be so off, and off on the same thing so often? Herder is a really week, doesn't have a clue, and can't be trusted.

Well that is pretty interesting. I have no shame and can apologize when I’m wrong. I’m very surprised to hear this as I’ve had a few email or Twitter convos with some of the committee players over the years and it always sounded like a Non D1 game was never considered at all. Thanks for the update.

I didn't notice what, if anything, you said on the subject, and believe you are one of the best posters on egriz. Yes, it is interesting, but it's not surprising to me because I read statutes, regs, and documents for a living for 45 years, and I read the selection criteria and everything else I could find on the subject (5 times or more). And we lawyers had to be right in analyzing every single one of those things. And it was clear to me that the selection criteria didn't say or even hint D2's wouldn't be considered, although they said and implied that DI wins were important. The rules have been updated, and they say that DI wins are important. I think DI wins were always important.

Here is the basic premise of the criteria:

"1. The committee shall select the best teams available on a national at-large basis to complete the bracket. Per NCAA Bylaw 31, the basic criteria used in the selection of at-large participants are (1) won-lost record, (2) strength of schedule, and (3) eligibility and availability of student-athletes for the NCAA championship;"

My view is that, for bubble teams, a win over no. 1 D2 Ferris would help the bubble team, in each of (1) and (2) above, and would compare favorably to another bubble team who had played a weak FCS team. I don't know what SOS the committee uses, but I assume it would include all games, including D2's. SRS may no longer be in the criteria.

I will post more later on the subject, as I have more information.
 
Hoops Translator: By golly, you were right again Hoops. No one should ever bet against you on something like this.
 
From another thread:

Griziron wrote: ↑
Haslem was asked about how D2 games factor in to playoff selection during the UCD pregame radio show. I believe he is the chair of the selection committee this year. He said that the D2 results could be considered in evaluating and comparing teams. The example he used was if SDSU (which played a D2) and UM ended up with the same overall record, the committee would compare the D2 results along with the overall strength of schedule. He didn't discuss how two teams with the same number of wins, but with one of them having a D2 win while the other had all D1 wins, would be compared.

Hoops:

Interesting. I was not aware of that. Well, he would have been up to speed on the subject, as he would have seen my email to the committee ahead of his interview. My email analyzed the criteria/rules, in a semi-lawyer fashion, and set forth my views. Truax, last year's committee chair, had told him that I had contacted Truax on this first, a little bird told me. My impression is that the committee would look at overall SOS, including the D2. And while the committee would like DI wins, they would look deeper at the actual teams played and would not decide on form over substance (i.e. the team with the most DI wins gets selected, even though the D2 was better than some of the DI teams the first team played). The committee wants the best teams; they don't want the teams that have won the most DI games (just like they don't do that now). Thx.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Hoops Translator: By golly, you were right again Hoops. No one should ever bet against you on something like this.

Translation: Oooooo! I hate that rabbit. Dagnabbit, I swear I was right. Now, all you long-eared galoots clear outta here. Any one-a-you lily-livered, bow-legged varmints care to slap leather with me?
 
mthoopsfan said:
Mousegriz said:
Your grasp of the English language continues to amaze. What's the bet Mr. Ivy League?

My grasp of the English language is good. My proofreading isn't. Want to bet on whether the selection committee considers D2 games? I say the committee does consider them. Put up or shut up.

The committee has to consider D2 games....losses more than wins.
 
Hoops Translator said:
mthoopsfan said:
Hoops Translator: By golly, you were right again Hoops. No one should ever bet against you on something like this.

Translation: Oooooo! I hate that rabbit. Dagnabbit, I swear I was right. Now, all you long-eared galoots clear outta here. Any one-a-you lily-livered, bow-legged varmints care to slap leather with me?
A man well versed in Yosemite Sam. BROTHER!!! :thumb: :lol: :clap:
https://yosemitesamquotes.com/yosemite-sam-sayings/
 
This Herder youngin' sure seems to give lots of you a bad case of gas. Experience teaches us lessons. If you are tired of hitting the same chuckhole in the road.........go around it..........avoid it. Avoidance Therapy. I don't dislike him, as I've never read his shtuff. :thumb: Worked for me. :lol:
From Google:
What is avoidance therapy?
Does Avoidance Coping Work or Just Cause More Stress?
Published: December 5, 2022. Avoidance coping strategies involve avoiding stressful situations, experiences, or difficult thoughts and feelings as a way to cope. 1, 2. While avoidance provides short-term relief, overusing it can cause more stress.Feb 5, 2022
 
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