Expectations for this season?

[kemajic]

Let's not forget Bobby in his first season took a program running on all cylinders, fresh off of a runner-up, a championship, and an 11-3 season,and lost at home to a DII, lost to the Cats, lost to a WIU team, gave us our sole loss to Idaho State in recent times, beat a much worse (albeit FBS) Idaho program at home, while boasting one of the best Griz QBs of all time (for part of the season). In a much, much worse Big Sky conference.

Running on all cylinders, really? UM had lost three of its last four to finish 2002 and graduated both QBs that had played at all. He was left with Jeff Disney as Ochs was not ready to play until midseason.
So can the hyperbole and selective memory. And describe the real evidence you have that the BSC was "much worse" in 2003 than 2018. Oh, we now have UNC....

Since you did such a fine job of picking at BH's first head coaching year, you missed most of the highlights. Like a 9-3 regular season with a 2 OT loss in the playoffs (It was not a 24 team field then). The four losses were by a total of 14 points, two of them in 2 OTs. +133 point diferential. Blowout wins vs. SHS, PSU and at NAU and SacSt. Not bad for a rookie. Now he has a little experience, like going 32-1 vs. BSC competition from '06-'09. I'll take my chances in 2018 behind this guy.

 

[4theluvofgriz]

If Jensen is so great, why didn't any FBS or even FCS teams want to sign him? After all, he was a "freshman All-American" right? The Bobcat QB signed with Oregon, a top 10 FBS team at that time, but no FBS team wanted Jensen, with 3 years to play??? Go figure. Willie Pflug....or won't he Pflug....that is the question. I think won't he Pflug is more likely.

I believe wash st and some others did want him but he would have to sit out a year and not play and then only have 2 to play 2. JUCO was more attractive and he found a great one. With all that being, he didn’t want to look over his shoulder and thought he deserved to be the guy so he moved on. I’m over it and everyone else should be too. The Griz team is most certainly over it.

According to my buddy, a big WSU booster, they never actually offered him a position. I think that rumor was just that..... a rumor.

 

[Silenoz]

Let's not forget Bobby in his first season took a program running on all cylinders, fresh off of a runner-up, a championship, and an 11-3 season,and lost at home to a DII, lost to the Cats, lost to a WIU team, gave us our sole loss to Idaho State in recent times, beat a much worse (albeit FBS) Idaho program at home, while boasting one of the best Griz QBs of all time (for part of the season). In a much, much worse Big Sky conference.

Running on all cylinders, really? UM had lost three of its last four to finish 2002 and graduated both QBs that had played at all. He was left with Jeff Disney as Ochs was not ready to play until midseason.
So can the hyperbole and selective memory. And describe the real evidence you have that the BSC was "much worse" in 2003 than 2018. Oh, we now have UNC....

Since you did such a fine job of picking at BH's first head coaching year, you missed most of the highlights. Like a 9-3 regular season with a 2 OT loss in the playoffs (It was not a 24 team field then). The four losses were by a total of 14 points, two of them in 2 OTs. +133 point diferential. Blowout wins vs. SHS, PSU and at NAU and SacSt. Not bad for a rookie. Now he has a little experience, like going 32-1 vs. BSC competition from '06-'09. I'll take my chances in 2018 behind this guy.

Yeah and how'd our last four games go last season? One of the worst drubbings in decades, a Cat Griz game where we get pushed around and give up 4th and a million and 3rd and a million, and beat another team because their QB gets ejected in the first quarter? If we weren't running on all cylinders in 2003 I don't what the hell to call the state of things as of today. BH 1.0 was handed the keys to the Caddy. BH 2.0 has a pretty big re-build, in an FCS and Big Sky landscape that has vastly changed.

And yeah we lost to WIU, at home, in the playoffs, where we're supposed to be invincible. Now we get them on the road. And a fringe top 10 team to open the season as opposed to a DII. Anyone who isn't optimistic about 7 wins being best case scenario is kidding themselves. We're picked 7th for a reason.

Can the hyperbole? Yeah, okay.

 

[Grizzoola]

Let's not forget Bobby in his first season took a program running on all cylinders, fresh off of a runner-up, a championship, and an 11-3 season,and lost at home to a DII, lost to the Cats, lost to a WIU team, gave us our sole loss to Idaho State in recent times, beat a much worse (albeit FBS) Idaho program at home, while boasting one of the best Griz QBs of all time (for part of the season). In a much, much worse Big Sky conference.

Now he has a program and school going through all sorts of shit for the last 6 seasons, two valley teams, a Bobcat team that has embarrassed us two years in a row and should only be better, a Cal Poly program that gives us fits every damn time we play them, Southern Utah, improved Sac State, etc.

This is the challenge for BH's homecoming: Can he take a mediocre MT program and make it the program he had when he left it? His stint at UNLV gives me pause that he will in 1 or even 2 years turn this program around. He couldn't turn that program around, even getting beat by two BSC teams & winning one against UNC by only 1 point. I can't understand it. I do believe it's because that program was not getting the support that the Griz program will. I'm sure he knows that, now, and I'm sure w/ a little time, he'll get the Griz back to their winning ways, NC or not.

 

[kemajic]

Let's not forget Bobby in his first season took a program running on all cylinders, fresh off of a runner-up, a championship, and an 11-3 season,and lost at home to a DII, lost to the Cats, lost to a WIU team, gave us our sole loss to Idaho State in recent times, beat a much worse (albeit FBS) Idaho program at home, while boasting one of the best Griz QBs of all time (for part of the season). In a much, much worse Big Sky conference.

Running on all cylinders, really? UM had lost three of its last four to finish 2002 and graduated both QBs that had played at all. He was left with Jeff Disney as Ochs was not ready to play until midseason.
So can the hyperbole and selective memory. And describe the real evidence you have that the BSC was "much worse" in 2003 than 2018. Oh, we now have UNC....

Since you did such a fine job of picking at BH's first head coaching year, you missed most of the highlights. Like a 9-3 regular season with a 2 OT loss in the playoffs (It was not a 24 team field then). The four losses were by a total of 14 points, two of them in 2 OTs. +133 point diferential. Blowout wins vs. SHS, PSU and at NAU and SacSt. Not bad for a rookie. Now he has a little experience, like going 32-1 vs. BSC competition from '06-'09. I'll take my chances in 2018 behind this guy.

Yeah and how'd our last four games go last season? One of the worst drubbings in decades, a Cat Griz game where we get pushed around and give up 4th and a million and 3rd and a million, and beat another team because their QB gets ejected in the first quarter? If we weren't running on all cylinders in 2003 I don't what the hell to call the state of things as of today. BH 1.0 was handed the keys to the Caddy. BH 2.0 has a pretty big re-build, in an FCS and Big Sky landscape that has vastly changed.

And yeah we lost to WIU, at home, in the playoffs, where we're supposed to be invincible. Now we get them on the road. And a fringe top 10 team to open the season as opposed to a DII. Anyone who isn't optimistic about 7 wins being best case scenario is kidding themselves. We're picked 7th for a reason.

Can the hyperbole? Yeah, okay.

You make some very shaky assumptions. 1. The UM tailoff last year was due to the talent returning this year, certainly not the coaching which was shown the door. 2. BH is the same coach in 2018 that he was in 2003. 3. Jeff Disney was a Cadillac driver. All are dead wrong.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Let's not forget Bobby in his first season took a program running on all cylinders, fresh off of a runner-up, a championship, and an 11-3 season,and lost at home to a DII, lost to the Cats, lost to a WIU team, gave us our sole loss to Idaho State in recent times, beat a much worse (albeit FBS) Idaho program at home, while boasting one of the best Griz QBs of all time (for part of the season). In a much, much worse Big Sky conference.

Now he has a program and school going through all sorts of shit for the last 6 seasons, two valley teams, a Bobcat team that has embarrassed us two years in a row and should only be better, a Cal Poly program that gives us fits every damn time we play them, Southern Utah, improved Sac State, etc.

This is the challenge for BH's homecoming: Can he take a mediocre MT program and make it the program he had when he left it? His stint at UNLV gives me pause that he will in 1 or even 2 years turn this program around. He couldn't turn that program around, even getting beat by two BSC teams & winning one against UNC by only 1 point. I can't understand it. I do believe it's because that program was not getting the support that the Griz program will. I'm sure he knows that, now, and I'm sure w/ a little time, he'll get the Griz back to their winning ways, NC or not.

You make it sound like UNLV is to FBS like Montana is to FCS.

I am not one that believes BH is magic and this team will be the king of the BSC just because he is the new coach, but the comparison of UNLV and Montana is borderline apples to oranges.

 

[IdaGriz01]

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This is the challenge for BH's homecoming: Can he take a mediocre MT program and make it the program he had when he left it? His stint at UNLV gives me pause that he will in 1 or even 2 years turn this program around. He couldn't turn that program around, even getting beat by two BSC teams & winning one against UNC by only 1 point. I can't understand it. I do believe it's because that program was not getting the support that the Griz program will. I'm sure he knows that, now, and I'm sure w/ a little time, he'll get the Griz back to their winning ways, NC or not.

You make it sound like UNLV is to FBS like Montana is to FCS.

I am not one that believes BH is magic and this team will be the king of the BSC just because he is the new coach, but the comparison of UNLV and Montana is borderline apples to oranges.

Nice way to put it, but it's not "borderline" IMO.

Since BH was here before, the Griz have won, under three different coaches, 62% of their games. Perhaps that is "mediocre," although there are plenty of programs that would kill to have just a 50-50 record. But, in football, UNLV has been crap for decades ... no matter who the coach was. You have to go back before 1980 to find a time when the Rebels were half-way decent in football. Since 1986 (a bit over 30 years), they've had seven different coaches. In all that time, they have won just 32% of their games. Even Hall-of-Fame coach John Robinson, whose college teams won 64% of their games, had a losing record at UNLV.

To compare a program that has won nearly two-thirds of their games over the past three coaches to one that can't quite win a third of their games in thirty years is a pretty big stretch.

No question Hauck had a rough go at UNLV. But given the sad records of every Rebel coach for the past thirty years, you cannot honestly say that Hauck's failure to turn that program around is that big a knock on his coaching ability. At least he took them to bowl game ... and it had been 14 years since any coach did that at UNLV.

 

[Grizzoola]

To compare a program that has won nearly two-thirds of their games over the past three coaches to one that can't quite win a third of their games in thirty years is a pretty big stretch.

Now, wait a minute! I'm not dissing BH because of his UNLV record. I'm saying it was not BH's fault for the losses to SUU or NAU, or one point win over UNC. A surprise to me, he actually didn't have the talent that I thought he'd have, playing these schools. He obviously, didn't, and that's reflecting on the program, not him. But, still, it was incredible seeing a BH team beaten by average BSC teams and winning vs. UNC by only one point. That's not Bobby, and I'm sure it'll be a different story at UM, but it will take time. This second round for Bobby is a real test for him to return a mediocre team to a BSC titleist , as in the old days. That's all I'm saying.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Glad that's settled. Everyone pretty much agrees that it had better be 7-4 or better or there's gonna be some 'splainin' needs doin', right? No more excuses.

 

[mcg]

I'm less concerned about the record and more concerned about seeing some intensity and swagger back out on the field. I think they could be anywhere from 6-5 to 8-3, but how they compete will be an indication of future success.

I also have expectations for the fans to step up their game. WA Griz has felt more like a golf gallery the past few years than a football stadium. I expect some loudness and coldness in WA Griz this season!

There were probably 6+ losses over Stitts Tenure that the Griz could have won purely had they played harder, both Cat losses, Northern Colorado come to mind.

I would say smarter not harder. 3rd & 31 comes to mind. The blown coverage on the opening UNC drive (which was abysmal to watch)...I think they were playing “hard”, but not real great schemes....and Semore never seemed to figure it out (or the O-coordinators easily figured HIM out...

I was at the UNC game. The person next to me said 'oh s**t' as that play started, it was easy to see that the receiver was wide open. I feel a little sick just thinking about it. I have no idea if that was on the coaches or the player, but it was bad.

 

[Ursa Major]

Glad that's settled. Everyone pretty much agrees that it had better be 7-4 or better or there's gonna be some 'splainin' needs doin', right? No more excuses.

I believe that we can all agree that 7-4 is mediocrity at UM. Definately the floor for this season.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Glad that's settled. Everyone pretty much agrees that it had better be 7-4 or better or there's gonna be some 'splainin' needs doin', right? No more excuses.

I believe that we can all agree that 7-4 is mediocrity at UM. Definately the floor for this season.

For sure. Griz Nation definitely isn't in to hearing excuses if we don't make the playoffs. The staff will be have to be under the gun if that happens.

 

[bgbigdog]

That it starts on 9/1, that it’s cold & loud almost immediately thereafter & that there aren’t any excuses. (On the field, I know that won’t change here).

 

[Ursa Major]

Glad that's settled. Everyone pretty much agrees that it had better be 7-4 or better or there's gonna be some 'splainin' needs doin', right? No more excuses.

I believe that we can all agree that 7-4 is mediocrity at UM. Definately the floor for this season.

For sure. Griz Nation definitely isn't in to hearing excuses if we don't make the playoffs. The staff will be have to be under the gun if that happens.

I fear not only will the fans demand this but the top boosters will too.

 

[PlayerRep]

Glad that's settled. Everyone pretty much agrees that it had better be 7-4 or better or there's gonna be some 'splainin' needs doin', right? No more excuses.

I believe that we can all agree that 7-4 is mediocrity at UM. Definately the floor for this season.

For sure. Griz Nation definitely isn't in to hearing excuses if we don't make the playoffs. The staff will be have to be under the gun if that happens.

I fear not only will the fans demand this but the top boosters will too.

Don't agree with your comment that top boosters will demand this. They, or most of them, won't. I don't think most fans will either.